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PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 08:08 AM Jul 2020

We're in for a turbulent future [View all]

Everything in Trump's orbit becomes a study in chaos and if VP Biden defeats him in November, I suspect we'll be in for a years-long drama, both in the legal/political world and the social/civil world.

When Trump loses, he will not accept the results as a statesman. You know he'll scream, holler, tweet and file lawsuits. He'll have several months to continue to use Barr's DOJ to fight his personal battles. He'll have several months to continue his dismantling of our civil and military services. He'll have several months to act out in ways our nation has never seen: Start a war, drop a bomb, declare martial law... who knows?

Then once he's finally out of office, President Biden will have a more complicated set of circumstances than even President Obama had in 2009. As bad as he was, W didn't dismantle the government so President Obama had a tool box to work with. President Biden will be severely limited at first because of the damages Trump has inflicted. The economy, foreign relations, governmental structures and the divisive partisanship of much of our country will be very difficult and complex issues that require exceptional solutions to reunite our nation.

Meanwhile, what to do about Trump? Following the criminality of the W years, President Obama decided to look forward and let the sins of the past fade away. After all, the man had a tremendous amount of work to do! Yet, it might have been a mistake to let Cheney et al. get away with their crimes.

Will President Biden rebuild a robust Department of Justice that will investigate and prosecute the vast criminalities of the Trump years? If he doesn't, our country will not have learned any lessons and a future dictator-wannabe could attain power.

However, such prosecutions would be almost unheard of in our country's history. Until now, presidents didn't generally use their awesome powers to attack their political rivals especially after the crook has left office. If you think the Mueller investigations were polarizing, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

An equally important decision the new president will have to make is what we should do about all of the flaws and holes in our Constitution and laws that Trump & Co. have so deviously exploited? As one example, Trump's abuse of his pardon power (and to a lesser extent, President Clinton's) requires a Constitutional Amendment to redefine that power. Trump's commutation of Roger Stone's convictions and sentences was clearly a quid pro quo for Stone's silence during the Mueller investigations. One cannot get any more corrupt than that!

Since I mentioned Constitutional Amendments, it's time to restructure our national voting mechanisms. The Electoral College is an out-dated artifact from the 18th century. In the 21st century, is the United States going to remain a country with an insulator between the voters and their presidents?

How will our people react to these difficult and divisive issues? We could very easily experience tremendous civil unrest.

There are so many problems we'll face with our politics and our society that I hope President Biden will have the strength and humility to find a healthy and productive path for our country.


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And for all this to happen... jimlup Jul 2020 #1
Yeah, this is the most important election in my 62 years PJMcK Jul 2020 #3
The Senate people! The Senate! rkleinberger Jul 2020 #73
Yes yes and yes! jimlup Jul 2020 #80
K&R, It will take Biden 6 months to stabilize once he gets into office. Trump wants to see it burn uponit7771 Jul 2020 #2
It will take President Biden all four years to right the wrongs of Trump PJMcK Jul 2020 #4
True but Nasruddin Jul 2020 #15
This is exactly why I favored Biden in the primaries wnylib Jul 2020 #29
The first thing the Senate will have to do is kill the filibuster jmowreader Jul 2020 #38
If, by some miracle DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #63
The way I see it. I'm reminded of when we elected our first woman Governor in PR. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #5
Most days, I'm an optimist PJMcK Jul 2020 #7
I'm what you call an "Ultra Pessimist". LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #24
Such a contradiction wnylib Jul 2020 #30
I'm with you LC DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #61
US of Amnesia Nasruddin Jul 2020 #22
I borrowed (OK stole) that Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #23
It will take a generation to undo the damage done by this maladministration. Snarkoleptic Jul 2020 #6
An apology tour PJMcK Jul 2020 #8
I believe that Biden will have the wnylib Jul 2020 #31
I concur PJMcK Jul 2020 #32
The first and best thing Biden can do DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #62
I agree about outlawing them like wnylib Jul 2020 #67
Well said!!!!!! DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #68
I'd be in favor of involving wnylib Jul 2020 #69
Sadly DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #72
Just reaffirm American values rkleinberger Jul 2020 #74
If you know this and we know this then I have faith that there are many proven successful Ninga Jul 2020 #9
138,273 Americans dead as of today and douchebag thinks he'll be reelected IronLionZion Jul 2020 #10
So if he thinks he will have a wnylib Jul 2020 #40
Voter suppression IronLionZion Jul 2020 #41
I had my way voter suppression and electoral fraud would be capital offenses and... 47of74 Jul 2020 #65
There should be an ad to point this out. rkleinberger Jul 2020 #75
140,526 deaths now IronLionZion Jul 2020 #79
I was thinking that the Biden transition team CanonRay Jul 2020 #11
Who cares about Trumpers! rkleinberger Jul 2020 #76
They will still be in control until January 23rd. CanonRay Jul 2020 #77
He will never let this country heal. paparush Jul 2020 #12
+1 llmart Jul 2020 #26
Yep Cosmocat Jul 2020 #58
...and the large elephant that still remains in the room. roamer65 Jul 2020 #13
+1000 cayugafalls Jul 2020 #39
it might have been a mistake to let Cheney et al. get away with their crimes. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #14
No one ever asked how Cheney DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #71
This is really disappointing. I thought it was going to be a cakewalk BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #16
It's going to take years. WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #17
Justice Dept Nasruddin Jul 2020 #20
True that! WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #25
I'm Ingersollman Jul 2020 #33
Even if we do win, there's still the right wing media machine we have to deal with. Initech Jul 2020 #28
That's why the Fairness Doctrine HAS TO BE reinstated. It has to be! BComplex Jul 2020 #46
No arguments here! Initech Jul 2020 #50
Investigating and prosecuting criminal wrongdoing is NOT NoMoreRepugs Jul 2020 #18
A difficult problem Nasruddin Jul 2020 #19
Accountability! Bondor Jul 2020 #21
Exactamundo! Ingersollman Jul 2020 #34
Some men just want to watch the world burn. Initech Jul 2020 #27
It is mostly DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #70
The short-to-medium term effect of these damages will definitely be a big hindrance. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2020 #35
Everyone is forgetting DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #36
Yep. There's that. The republican Senate has been russia's enablers all along. The $$ BComplex Jul 2020 #47
Really and Truly, the Trump Presidency Has Been Like a Second Civil War panfluteman Jul 2020 #37
Between the time Biden wins the election Toorich Jul 2020 #42
I wouldn't hold my breath in Dems stepping up to fight back! They never do. rkleinberger Jul 2020 #78
There is only one solution. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #43
True that. BComplex Jul 2020 #48
Yes, you know what I mean. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #49
I'm glad someone finally didn't say it! hamsterjill Jul 2020 #52
Good one but that's too easy PJMcK Jul 2020 #54
I would like that too, but it might be too complicated and take too long. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #55
Okay, may tonight fulfill our fondest wishes! (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2020 #56
He'll get a regular prime time spot on Faux. lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #44
I totally agree with everything you said. BComplex Jul 2020 #45
We also could use the ERA (n/t) PJMcK Jul 2020 #53
My dream Dan Jul 2020 #51
We still have to endure six more months of this monster burning the country down. Jack-o-Lantern Jul 2020 #57
President Biden will need a Senate starting now mshasta Jul 2020 #59
I agree with your premise. Firestorm49 Jul 2020 #60
Too late - damage is done 47of74 Jul 2020 #64
When Trump loses, I agree that he'll raise Hell and call it stolen etc., etc. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #66
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