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PatrickforO

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37. A lot of moving parts. The court has been packed by McConnell and his criminal henchmen.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:46 PM
Jul 2020

It is easy, of course, to have 20/20 hindsight. Everyone familiar with history does.

But the SCOTUS of 2021? Hard to say. If the Democrats blow the Republicans out of the water, and I'm talking about party-killing election results, then we might be able to ram in a couple more justices - at least Merrick Garland or someone else who is sane. Honestly, there's no telling what will happen, unless it is what we ourselves make happen with a) our votes, and b) our continued involvement, and c) strong Democratic majorities in House and Senate, with Biden in the White House. If that happens, we have a chance, but only if our party's leadership gets itself together with a five- to ten-year plan. We don't do that quite as well as the GOP did, which is why our republic is crumbling around us with the Trump-McConnell axis of evil. They move in lock step.

As to 'single payer or nothing,' that's not where I'm coming from, though I am never shy about saying I believe it is the solution and we need it now. Because people who are suffering now do need it now. On the ground, you know, as these proverbial mill wheels of progress grind slowly, ever-so-slowly, we must always be mindful that millions of Americans don't have healthcare - I think about 33% of the people in TX don't - and to be without healthcare is to lose everything if you get sick. So there really IS a moral urgency here. What is it O said? 'The fierce urgency of now.'

What is it MLK Jr. said in his letter from Birmingham Jail? "For years now I have heard the word "Wait!" It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This "Wait" has almost always meant "Never." We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that "justice too long delayed is justice denied.""

Because, you know, if it were a member of your family, or mine, who was ill with cancer or some such and having to choose whether to eat or get chemo, the issue of healthcare takes on a much different face. And many of the millions who do not have healthcare right now are working Americans and some are sick right now, losing everything they have down the gaping maw of healthcare profits. The situation itself is vile. What we have does not work for everyone, just for those lucky enough to have employer provided plans - but the copay in my own such plan is............you guessed it.............financially crippling.

So, no, there's nothing good about this. Which is why I do expect, and believe I and other Americans, have the right to expect some aggressive movement in the right direction by Democrats, provided they are in the majority in 2021, with plans taking into account Supreme Court challenges and so on. The party really needs a sound strategic plan. Big time. Because we have the leadership, which is older, in their seventies, and then we have the young progressives. Not sure what is in between, but there is hopefully some real strategy in there.

And the American people seem to be moving left on healthcare - spurred on by the pandemic and its uncertainties. What is it? About a million new unemployment claims a week for how many weeks?



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Perhaps you can direct us to the part of the Constitution that speaks of the voiding of mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #1
See citations here: lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #9
Impeachment is not the same thing as "voiding" an appointment. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #11
A bit of poetic license; most DUers aren't constitututional scholars. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #12
No problem. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #15
That's the key. Appointments and impeachments are both brute-force political processes. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #17
---sigh---nowhere did I ever suggest that I wanted to replace SCOTUS justices "because I did not Atticus Jul 2020 #25
My head hurts. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #26
I have no doubt. nt Atticus Jul 2020 #27
None of that follows. It is nonsense. tritsofme Jul 2020 #32
Thank you for such a clear example of the "dismissive criticisms" mentioned in my OP. Atticus Jul 2020 #35
Nonsense like this should be dismissed, not humored. tritsofme Jul 2020 #36
These things were accomplished legislatively and judicially after years of pressure from organized WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #2
I don't know about voided, but there is this.. safeinOhio Jul 2020 #3
YUP! It's in there in black and white. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #10
They can be "voided" by a majority vote in the House and 2/3 in the Senate. NYC Liberal Jul 2020 #4
Easiest solution ... dawg Jul 2020 #5
So, it's okay for Republicans to add two more when they regain control at some future point? brooklynite Jul 2020 #7
Should they be allowed to steal a seat on the court without consequence? dawg Jul 2020 #8
If, god forbid, Trump wins another term, you and everyone else here Calista241 Jul 2020 #14
We also need a secure majority in congress. The legislation must originate from the House ehrnst Jul 2020 #24
Okay - explain a method that accomplished those things that can be applied to Judicial Appointments brooklynite Jul 2020 #6
Only a political basis is needed. That's how impeachment works. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
Forget it, brooklynite. It's Chinatown. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #16
Ah, I like the cut of your jib, Atticus. PatrickforO Jul 2020 #18
So why hasn't it been done? It was first brought up in 1971. ehrnst Jul 2020 #21
We've argued about this before. PatrickforO Jul 2020 #33
So basically you're admitting that it's not that easy. ehrnst Jul 2020 #34
A lot of moving parts. The court has been packed by McConnell and his criminal henchmen. PatrickforO Jul 2020 #37
"To the left" of what in healthcare? The ACA? ehrnst Jul 2020 #38
Gorsuch and beer bong are probably done deals. plimsoll Jul 2020 #19
If McTurtle would have scheduled a vote on Garland, they could have voted him down. MichMan Jul 2020 #28
Yes, but we be rid of beer bong. plimsoll Jul 2020 #29
How? MichMan Jul 2020 #30
Merrick Garland would have been in that seat. plimsoll Jul 2020 #31
OK, so if we remove Gorsuch and Kavanaugh prior to January, who chooses their replacement? ehrnst Jul 2020 #20
Deep combing of Congressional testimony is a start bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #22
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2020 #23
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