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Hortensis

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21. :) I agree that inimical RW forces have gained dangerous power
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 05:21 AM
Jul 2020

and that Margaret Atwood's dystopian fantasy is shockingly relevant to their efforts today. And, yes, there are very strongly socially conservative women who believe passionately that omen's equality is the work of the devil or otherwise just resent the hell out of empowered women. I've clashed with many over the decades, both observing and being the recipient of their spiteful resentment of women who take "men's" jobs. And of course of the men.

But that's them. Those who want to smash women back into the 19th century are a minority even on the right. They've only succeeded as much as they have because too many complacent people across the political spectrum couldn't imagine that they could. On the left they didn't get off their lazy asses to vote and on the right voted with them for other purposes with the notion that the majority would prevail in the end.

Agree that hat's happening politically on the right is very dangerous because socioreligious extremists rightly believe they could use modern technology and severe oppression to control the many if they could control government. They've focused their zealotry on making that happen, funded and used by the new plutocrat classes who foolishly imagine they can control them, although most presumably didn't foresee their flooding into governments via Trump.

But sensible awareness and fear of that danger shouldn't make us forget that they're the ones battling enormously powerful tides of progress. They've been losing for centuries; and in this century alone, advances for humanity that they see as losses have accelerated enormously, with degrees of change that once took millennia now occurring over a couple of decades.

Of course they're fighting it. That's their nature. And a great advantage to them is that the nature of too many happily riding the great tides has been to wonder what on earth their problem is. Phyllis Schlafley and her admirers were already freaks in her time, a reality TV show watched with fascinated amusement and contempt by the majority, and a little fear by those less complacent.

That fear's been borne out, of course, and I agree the men who allowed Schlafley to become a big voice for them could still win. Temporarily but dreadfully. If everyone else lets them. For sure, the author's right that it is a tragedy for Schlafley, long ago kicked to the political gutter by RW men, that she didn't live to be newly thrilled by today's disasters.

They say only the good die young Freddie Jul 2020 #1
She was in her early 90s, BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #2
Precisely. There is no "Trumpism", this attitude is baked into the conservative core JHB Jul 2020 #7
Yes it is. BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #8
Slightly OT: I was too young when The Firing Line originally aired.. tenderfoot Jul 2020 #18
That was my assessment as well. JHB Jul 2020 #22
I'm with both you and JHB on that! BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #32
How I despised her smug hypocratic face! She was everywhere, lecturing women 'stay home and STFU'!!! bobbieinok Jul 2020 #3
Her 1964 book A Choice Not An Echo claimed liberalism had taken over the GOP bobbieinok Jul 2020 #4
You must have intuited my response BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #6
She was awful. BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #5
It is with no joy North Shore Chicago Jul 2020 #9
Ugh, you must have been traumatized just being around her. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #10
You have all my sympathy! BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #12
My mother is against women's rights and has the same mentality. Jamastiene Jul 2020 #20
Thank you for posting this. I had a number of encounters with her over the years, none of niyad Jul 2020 #11
I remember seeing some BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #13
Oooh... her. I worked at a small publishing company... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #14
... BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #17
Awww, thanks! It was a looong time ago! ... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #26
I don't normally suggest people turn on the boob tube for Hortensis Jul 2020 #15
This may be one of the very few BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #16
:) I agree that inimical RW forces have gained dangerous power Hortensis Jul 2020 #21
I can heartily endorse this BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #23
Hi I still think there are more of them... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #28
Well, there are a lot who've been voting with the far right Hortensis Jul 2020 #30
Oh, ha! Now's that's some This vs That! LOL! :D electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #31
Hi I'd have to also partly disagree about back then... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #27
In light of the Schlafly inspiration, BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #33
Oh! ... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #34
Margaret Atwood is a consultant BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #37
Oh I had forgotten about the "The Testaments"... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #38
Almost all women are like her, where I live. Jamastiene Jul 2020 #19
Even though it may not seem like it, BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #24
Thank you. Jamastiene Jul 2020 #25
Yikes! Stay safe! From what I've seen since ... electric_blue68 Jul 2020 #29
As you might notice in the final episode of Mrs. America... AntiFascist Jul 2020 #35
I still haven't seen BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #36
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