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octoberlib

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Tue Oct 27, 2020, 06:09 AM Oct 2020

The size of the Supreme Court has been legally changed 7 times [View all]


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It underwent five full legal implementations:

1789-1807: six seats
1807-1837: seven seats
1837-1866: ten seats
1866-1867: nine seats
1867-1869: eight seats
1869-present: nine seats

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And twice, legislation changed its size but was never implemented for various reasons, notably the Judiciary Act of 1801 (or Midnight Judges Act), which would have reduced its size to five upon the next vacancy but was repealed by the Judiciary Act of 1802.

Another attempt that was never (fully) implemented was the Judicial Circuits Act of 1866, which would have provided the next three justices not be replaced when they retire; however, only two seats were eliminated before the Circuit Judges Act altered the size to nine seats.


But why all the fluctuation?

Well, the way our judiciary system is set up is having three levels of federal courts.

At the district level, the lowest, there are 673 federal judges.

They're overseen by 179 appeals judges (circuit courts).

At the top: 9 SCOTUS justices.


Over time, the expansion of the United States in both land and population required a greater workload, which meant more district judges, more appeals judges, etc.

For example, the Seventh Circuit was added in 1807, along with a SCOTUS justice to match in labor.

That's how we eventually got to nine justices, to correspond with nine circuit courts. There's a lot of political maneuvering between parties here, tho, which is why we went from 7 to 10 to 9 to 8 to 9.

(Are you getting the feeling the court has always been political? Correct.)

It's also fair to note that the practice of SCOTUS justices "riding circuit", as in literally taking a tour of courts in their corresponding region, fell out of practice with time.

What didn't change is that we STILL altered the federal judiciary LONG after 1869. Like recently.

For example, in 1978, Congress authorized 117 additional district judges and 35 circuit court judges (the appeals judges) to be appointed by the President.

In 1984, there were 24 additional circuit court judges authorized.

Fast-forward to Obama's presidency, when despite Democrats winning two presidential elections in a row, McConnell and GOP Senators blocked over 100 judicial nominations by Obama.

There was "no will of the people" nonsense. He just blocked them. Didn't even consider them.

There are 870 federal judgeships that are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate, authorized under Article III fo the Constitution.

Through this egregious process, Trump and McConnell have slammed through 220 confirmations at those three levels. In 4 years.

For comparison, Obama put through 329 over EIGHT years through a good faith process.

For those doing the math, Trump has confirmed about 25% more federal judges annually. That's a lot. And it was done so through an intentional rigging of the process at stunning speed.
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Excellent post! DonaldsRump Oct 2020 #1
Another DU post made the point that there are now 13 circuits so we need 13 Justices. octoberlib Oct 2020 #3
I saw that too DonaldsRump Oct 2020 #5
Aim for 15... settle for 13. NurseJackie Oct 2020 #13
2016 - 2017: 8 seats applegrove Oct 2020 #2
and was never illegally changed. 5X Oct 2020 #4
Yes, it was illegally changed by McConnell in 2016; reduced to 8 for a year. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #33
Well, well, well. Thank you Hekate Oct 2020 #6
I agree with all of this Sunsky Oct 2020 #7
I actually agree with this. We gotta win first. octoberlib Oct 2020 #10
I believe this is Biden's thought process as well Sunsky Oct 2020 #20
Thanks for posting Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #8
mitch changed it to 8 for almost a year.. samnsara Oct 2020 #9
We should have 13 Supreme Court Justices -- one for every federal court of appeals RedSpartan Oct 2020 #11
That seems to be the right number... SKKY Oct 2020 #18
That's the right number we'll need infullview Oct 2020 #19
There's also workload and population bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #12
Shhhhh. Let's let the RWers think their biased RW SCOTUS Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #14
It's court UN-packing. Moscow Mitch fudge-packed it. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #22
IF you don't hammer the shit out of the Republicans for this, they will just carry on next time. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #15
+1 dalton99a Oct 2020 #28
Answers my question. Aussie105 Oct 2020 #16
I like that one. TruckFump Oct 2020 #21
Would require 3 more to "balance" Trump appointees, or 4 more to approximate public opinion. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #23
Yeah, we get it. Can we please wait a week + a day to talk about this? PLEASE?!? jpljr77 Oct 2020 #17
Because Republicans read DU and they have no idea anybody's thinking about this? lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #24
Let's compare 1869 (1870) to current day. Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #25
Let's compare 1869 (1870) to current day. Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #26
What is the legality of making immediate term limits for SC Justices? SomedayKindaLove Oct 2020 #27
I think it can be changed by Congress because they just had a bill with term limits for octoberlib Oct 2020 #29
Unconstitutional onenote Oct 2020 #31
A line in Gore Vidal's "Lincoln" makes a lot more sense, now that I know there were mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #30
So it can be DECREASED dsharp88 Oct 2020 #32
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