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4. And why do the Sunrise Movement and Justice Democrats accept dark money from undisclosed sources and

Reply to R B Garr (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 12:58 PM

Nov 2020

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then claim that they do not accept corporate funds when they don't actually know where the money is coming from?

Sunrise Movement’s tweets included a clarification that they and Justice Democrats would not take corporate money because “to do so would be hypocritical.”

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/06/socialists-super-pacs-campaign-finance-justice-democrats

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Justice Democrats is making demands of Joe Biden. Meanwhile, the JD superpac [View all] lapucelle Nov 2020 OP

JD is very popular with a "subset". R B Garr Nov 2020 #1

And why do the Sunrise Movement and Justice Democrats accept dark money from undisclosed sources and lapucelle Nov 2020 #4

the oil tycoon (Hunt) has been dead since 1974, his granddaughter is very liberal, the PAC supported Celerity Nov 2020 #14

Good to know they are not hypocrites after accepting Super PAC money. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #57

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #59

non sequitur Celerity Nov 2020 #61

Non rebuttal because you know I'm right. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #68

no, you have been shown to not be right at all Celerity Nov 2020 #76

Exactly, especially when some Democrat "subsets" are attacked for having any R B Garr Nov 2020 #42

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #51

Way to Win is not run by an 'oil tycoon', but a granddaughter of Hunt, and supported Biden Celerity Nov 2020 #13

Justice Democtats:"Superpacs are wonderful when we have them". lapucelle Nov 2020 #28

non sequitur Celerity Nov 2020 #30

So you are just gonna ignore your ridiculous "oil tycoon" shtick was shot to pieces? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #32

Billionaire granddaughter of an oil tycoon, isn't an oil tycoon herself? ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #58

+1 betsuni Nov 2020 #62

she is not an oil tycoon, she's an activist, she is not a billionaire, and the OP has been edited Celerity Nov 2020 #64

And yet not one of those mention Leah Hunt-Hendrix net worth. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #69

their are 2 individual billionaires in the Hunt family, Ray Lee and W. Herbert, neither of whom are Celerity Nov 2020 #73

Scrodingers Billionaire, I will conceded that Leah Hunt-Hendrix may or may not be a billionaire. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #77

so you are also outraged that they (she's not the sole founder nor controller) contributed to Biden? Celerity Nov 2020 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #84

Since you have all the anwers... ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #87

I have done enough work, you are perfectly capable of some research on your own, if you are that Celerity Nov 2020 #88

Oh ok. I figured you had the inside track on these Super PACs that the rest of us don't. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #90

She is an fossil fuel heiress with an excellent resume and most likely very good intentions. lapucelle Nov 2020 #95

Exactly. betsuni Nov 2020 #50

And their pals at Jacobin have an article saying the Senate should reject Biden nominees including highplainsdem Nov 2020 #2

So much winning......... LeftInTX Nov 2020 #3

They can go pound sand awesomerwb1 Nov 2020 #5

If only. Extremists must defeat the overwhelmingly bigger mainstream. Hortensis Nov 2020 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Nov 2020 #63

I know they manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory treestar Nov 2020 #71

I believe that AOC was on "the board" of Justice Democrats at one time. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #6

They didn't spend one dime against Republicans this cycle. lapucelle Nov 2020 #55

They're no friend of the Democratic party... yet they feel ENTITLED to make demands? NurseJackie Nov 2020 #67

"Against Democrats" here means during primaries (D vs D), not pro-Republican. DanTex Nov 2020 #7

Yes, I understand exactly what that means. lapucelle Nov 2020 #9

Why was Engel vilified for taking superpac money by the supporters lapucelle Nov 2020 #11

I didn't follow the race closely, but it's disingenuous to paint JD as some big DanTex Nov 2020 #18

Nobody is painting JD as anything. Their record shows that they are willing to take dark money lapucelle Nov 2020 #21

That's a meaningless technicality. DanTex Nov 2020 #25

I think painting six of one as half a dozen of the other is far from meaningless. Or technical. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #26

Why don't they disclose where their money is coming from? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #86

because Engel was getting money from Republican-backing SuperPacs Celerity Nov 2020 #29

+1000 Celerity Nov 2020 #16

Those superpac-funded narratives were used against Max Rose on Staten Island. N/T lapucelle Nov 2020 #22

I guess we should cancel primaries then! Sympthsical Nov 2020 #23

there was no Democratic primary for Max Rose in 2020, he ran unopposed and it was cancelled Celerity Nov 2020 #38

Max Rose had no Democratic primary opponent in 2020, and the primary was cancelled, so I have no Celerity Nov 2020 #34

Talking points and attacks are repurposed during the general election lapucelle Nov 2020 #49

non sequitur, that has nothing to do with what was claimed and what I addressed Celerity Nov 2020 #65

Justice Democrats' superpac accepts dark money and spends it against Democrats. lapucelle Nov 2020 #70

spending it 'against Democrats' is disingenuous, as it was during a Democratic primary, as has been Celerity Nov 2020 #74

The only folks the Justice Democrats superpac spent money AGAINST were Democrats. lapucelle Nov 2020 #80

they ran adverts for Biden blasting Trump, and gain the 'against' was in a Dem primary, it was not Celerity Nov 2020 #81

It would be nice if Democratic Super PACs would spend money Against Republicans... ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #60

They do that, of course. In primaries, Dems oppose Dems, so all Dems are campaigning DanTex Nov 2020 #72

Other posters pointed out the simple fact that this Super Pac did not. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #75

Actually, yes, they did, they supported Biden in the general. Simple fact lol. DanTex Nov 2020 #78

Yep, they supported Biden. However the reporting shows no attacks on GOP. ahoysrcsm Nov 2020 #82

Many of those are not honest primaries AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #85

Yup that's what they said about AOC. And Bowman. And Cori Bush. DanTex Nov 2020 #91

They all won in deep deep blue districts. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #92

That's right. Why did we have centrists in those districts to begin with? DanTex Nov 2020 #93

Because the electorate in those district want mainstream competence AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #94

Guess they changed their minds, huh? DanTex Nov 2020 #96

Yeah but thanks to Justice Democrats AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #97

It's a bit silly to blame the losses of centrist Dems on progressives, don't you think? DanTex Nov 2020 #98

JD brings out silly socialist slogans and taint all Democrats AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #99

It's so disappointing that some have not done due diligence when it comes to Justice Democrats. lapucelle Nov 2020 #8

I agree! PTWB Nov 2020 #19

The oil tycoon bit is absolutely malicious Sympthsical Nov 2020 #24

Argumentum ad ignorantiam (especially as a failed attempt at invective) lapucelle Nov 2020 #31

LOL PTWB Nov 2020 #37

All 8 of them? octoberlib Nov 2020 #10

"Justice Democrats" are telling us *Corporations are People* for their purposes? Maru Kitteh Nov 2020 #12

Is this the same Justice Democrats who someone here posted their attack on The Lincoln Project, when OnDoutside Nov 2020 #15

Justice Democrats go all-in on Biden Celerity Nov 2020 #17

So they won't be doing what they are accusing TLP of, now that the election OnDoutside Nov 2020 #43

now that the election is over (other than the GA run-offs) both can go away for all I care Celerity Nov 2020 #44

The Medium author you cite, Robbie Jaeger, is obsessed with George Soros, and a big Tulsi fan btw Celerity Nov 2020 #20

Now there's a direct link to the FEC filings. The fact that JD accepted dark money stands, lapucelle Nov 2020 #33

I never disputed that, nor am I a JD fangirl at all nt Celerity Nov 2020 #35

So the purpose of the giant pictures and text was to.... lapucelle Nov 2020 #36

an attempt(s) to give a fuller picture on the entire debate, plus correct mis-framings like the Celerity Nov 2020 #39

The facts are the facts. Justice Democrats accepts dark money, has a superpac, and is making demands lapucelle Nov 2020 #40

those issues are not what my replies dealt with, & you also used a disingenuous framing when you Celerity Nov 2020 #41

The record stands exactly as stated: Justice Democrats has a superpac that accepts dark money. lapucelle Nov 2020 #54

K&R betsuni Nov 2020 #45

Off-topic question: what does the coffee & doughnut pic that you have at the end.. aidbo Nov 2020 #46

If you right click on the image in the DU smilie map lapucelle Nov 2020 #47

JD gets Nothing from Joe Biden. Cha Nov 2020 #48

Did you know that the Justice Democrats superpac did not spend a dime against Republicans this year? lapucelle Nov 2020 #52

I didn't know it specifically But Cha Nov 2020 #53

That depends on how you define 'against'. They ran adverts for Biden in the general ripping Trump Celerity Nov 2020 #66

I'm not the one defining "against". Open Secrets reports data based on FEC filings lapucelle Nov 2020 #89

I can't get into the minutia of the Bullshit. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #56

Sometimes I wonder silently AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #83