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32. Biden will create a bill to help the cost of

Reply to redstatebluegirl (Original post)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 03:41 PM

Dec 2020

Covid-19.

Don't the lawyers have some responsibility in counseling these grieving families?

Could be a clause in personal life insurance about dying from a pandemic?

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Something I think we should all consider in terms of COVID death numbers. [View all] redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 OP

I've seen it said the numbers may be 10x higher than reported... Hugin Dec 2020 #1

No kidding DENVERPOPS Dec 2020 #22

Remember the show Last Man on Earth? peanut57 Dec 2020 #60

That movie sparked my fascination Sugarcoated Dec 2020 #71

Ice Nine jaxexpat Dec 2020 #75

I know right? I'm 58, and I don't feel old. ... aggiesal Dec 2020 #83

I have noticed that many obits of people I know died of COVID, do not state that. Frustratedlady Dec 2020 #2

In some states cause of death is not listed in the obituary AwakeAtLast Dec 2020 #9

I realize that, but many do here. It is also helpful for family history health issues. n/t Frustratedlady Dec 2020 #10

Obituaries are not death certificates sorcrow Dec 2020 #51

I was directly replying to a post about obituaries AwakeAtLast Dec 2020 #54

Cause of death is a medical determination. milestogo Dec 2020 #3

It's up to the coroner, I think. n/t Laelth Dec 2020 #5

I believe the coroner determines the cause of death when the person is not ... aggiesal Dec 2020 #84

Interesting. Laelth Dec 2020 #86

Well, ask yourself why some deaths require an autopsy and others don't? ... aggiesal Dec 2020 #88

That makes sense. n/t Laelth Dec 2020 #90

I know that, however I have to wonder if medical personnel and hospitals are so tired and overworked redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #7

Our father had advanced dementia at his death GusBob Dec 2020 #8

I've heard stories from a fundy that people do argue cause and sometimes threaten, JanMichael Dec 2020 #58

I have always thought the diarrhea-gonorrhea story was just a joke soldierant Dec 2020 #66

You'd think so, but the precedent was set during the AIDS epidemic FakeNoose Dec 2020 #65

The way I look at this is an analogy ... aggiesal Dec 2020 #85

Frustrating. Infuriating. Depressing. Exhausting. Laelth Dec 2020 #4

The whole Republican party is a death cult, spreading disinformation to suck in more victims! Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #6

Doncha know that hospitals write in COVID because they get more money? Hekate Dec 2020 #11

I heard this from a friend the other day. Would like to hear the origin of this, or maybe not. nature-lover Dec 2020 #23

The last idiot I heard this from, I said, "you are telling me that the same insurance companies niyad Dec 2020 #37

They must be getting paid by George Soros PatSeg Dec 2020 #40

Still waiting for my check for the 2017 Women's March nt yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #63

Must have got lost in the mail! PatSeg Dec 2020 #73

they are trash BainsBane Dec 2020 #12

It happens in the other direction, too greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #13

My friend thinks it is close to half a million at this point. redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #16

My mother-in-law died at home (not from Covid-19, this was before). Mariana Dec 2020 #30

Just think how many people gab13by13 Dec 2020 #14

I have a friend.... cannabis_flower Dec 2020 #21

That is scary as hell. Is there any place at all that just does outpatient surgeries ... Hekate Dec 2020 #41

She's finally. .. cannabis_flower Dec 2020 #64

Fingers crossed Hekate Dec 2020 #70

Jesus. That sounds pretty urgent to me! Habibi Dec 2020 #52

So now one can hire a lawyer to tell a doctor/hospital what someone died of - Unbelievable. iluvtennis Dec 2020 #15

There are lawyers that will take any case for money. redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #17

+ agree. But it shouldn't be allowed. The doctors are the domain experts and know what affliction iluvtennis Dec 2020 #18

No. They can try, but they'll almost certainly fail. Mariana Dec 2020 #28

I wish I had original sources to point you to, but those that study statistics on death say rwsanders Dec 2020 #19

I was talking to a family member Saturday and.. ananda Dec 2020 #20

I don't know if it's double, but it's certainly significantly higher. nt. Mariana Dec 2020 #26

Being evangelical can condition one for cult groupthink, too. ancianita Dec 2020 #24

This all makes a great deal of sense. NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #43

Which is what I'm going for in looking at the 71 million, lest we confuse them with the cult. ancianita Dec 2020 #45

I find this very interesting. I've never really thought about the number of adherents NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #50

Worth really seeing. Because we see the cult doesn't mean we should be blindsided by the rest. ancianita Dec 2020 #53

Fascinating. NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #56

... ancianita Dec 2020 #57

Absolutely. nt NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #59

The numbers are, in fact, bigger than what we see. Mariana Dec 2020 #25

Its over 600k deaths above the median Drb2072 Dec 2020 #27

the numbers are definitely bigger than what's reported. barbtries Dec 2020 #29

Me too, I just turned 65 this year. redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #35

August 26 barbtries Dec 2020 #39

And I can still hop, slower than I used to but I can do it! redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #77

The way I look at this is an analogy ... aggiesal Dec 2020 #87

it's a good analogy. nt barbtries Dec 2020 #91

i agree Authentically Adrian Dec 2020 #31

Welcome to DU! NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #44

Biden will create a bill to help the cost of no matrix Dec 2020 #32

Welcome to DU! NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #46

Here is the latest data I can find about excess deaths during 2020 Trailrider1951 Dec 2020 #33

Thanks for posting these links. NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #47

Goodness 65 year olds haven't died of old age since about 1875 bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #34

Read my #87 reply (Great minds think alike!) n/t aggiesal Dec 2020 #89

To acknowledge that they died of Covid means that they were wrong to have not worn a mask. LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #36

I hope these pathetic easy marks are not advertising their concerns RVN VET71 Dec 2020 #38

I think the NY Times has done a thoughtful analysis of excess death. It's frequently updated. Pobeka Dec 2020 #42

Thanks for posting this link. NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 #48

this is just beyond insane AlexSFCA Dec 2020 #49

Absolutely. Have experienced people not wanting to call a spade a spade also... Illumination Dec 2020 #55

Startling graph from Minnesota: 40% of recent deaths are respiratory (normally 5-10%) progree Dec 2020 #61

Here, they put pneumonia with COVID complications or some such Hestia Dec 2020 #62

Just so you know, people have been crazy for years. TNNurse Dec 2020 #67

When I was in college I worked as a clerk in redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #69

This idiotic idea is on a par with flat earth. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #68

I Will take that bet .. yuiyoshida Dec 2020 #72

If they aren't sick, why are they in the hospital? UpInArms Dec 2020 #74

Exactly, my Dad was diabetic and lived to be 80. redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #78

I do think the numbers are higher Pugee Dec 2020 #76

My friend said the same thing. redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #80

How many non-Covid Diabetic patients are on ventilators? Not too many. My MiL started ... marble falls Dec 2020 #79

K&R for visibility Blue Owl Dec 2020 #81

The major reason the actual number of deaths than the counts... eallen Dec 2020 #82

This mindset is as ridiculous as that of flat-earthers, but varies in one crucial way. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #92