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thucythucy

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11. The existing government is our Constitution.

Thu Jan 7, 2021, 10:55 PM

Jan 2021

Adherence to our Constitution is what defines our government.

This was an attempt to replace the Constitution with rule by autocrat and mob.

Had it succeeded, it would have been the destruction of the federal government as legally constituted.

Sounds like a coup to me.

As I understand it, the phrase "coup d'état" means a blow against the state.

The only way this doesn't qualify is if, like Louis XIV, Trump is entitled to say, "The state is me."

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Poll: Was yesterday a coup attempt? [View all] brush Jan 2021 OP

the head of state was not threatened so I think it's not a coup, legally speaking nt msongs Jan 2021 #1

An autogolpe, or autocoup covers that Lars39 Jan 2021 #3

An attempted take over of government can be considered a coup attempt. brush Jan 2021 #4

It was an attempt to replace the Constitution thucythucy Jan 2021 #9

Yes. It was half baked like everything else Trump does. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #2

Not in the strictly legal sense StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #5

The existing government is our Constitution. thucythucy Jan 2021 #11

No, that's not correct StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #12

I guess our European allies are misinformed as well. thucythucy Jan 2021 #17

As I said. Think whatever you want StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #20

It's important because Sean Hannity and his ilk thucythucy Jan 2021 #24

What you or I think is the proper definition of "coup" doesn't mean jack squat StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #26

From Merriam- Webster MoonlitKnight Jan 2021 #29

The same could be said of your definition. thucythucy Jan 2021 #33

And, what were those zip ties for, exactly? EndlessWire Jan 2021 #23

Zip ties don't have any effect on whether something is a coup or not StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #28

And, you decided this how? n/t EndlessWire Jan 2021 #31

True enough. There must be a shorter term for that instead of... brush Jan 2021 #27

I honestly don't know. Trump is obsessed with himself, so he may have been showboating. 42bambi Jan 2021 #6

I voted yes but really need a lot more proof than what we have seen so far that Trump ordered it. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #7

Not a valid poll. Answer options need to be mutually exclusive Bucky Jan 2021 #8

So do your own poll. Easy peasy. brush Jan 2021 #16

It's only a coup if its from the coup d'etat region of France, otherwise its just sparkling white NightWatcher Jan 2021 #10

Heehee! Good answer. brush Jan 2021 #14

The difference is that the coup participants weren't worried about being lined up against a wall and brewens Jan 2021 #13

Agreed. Make them pay. More will come out. brush Jan 2021 #15

Neither was Hiter when he staged the Beer Hall Putsch thucythucy Jan 2021 #19

I literal coup in that moment? Probably not, but... tandem5 Jan 2021 #18

That scenario is scary. A smarter trump would've modeled wearing masks... brush Jan 2021 #25

Yes MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #21

YES! myohmy2 Jan 2021 #22

Agreed. There have to be consequences, and since Pence won't... brush Jan 2021 #30

Hell yes! Brother Mythos Jan 2021 #32

No AmyStrange Jan 2021 #34

Agreed. But it was trump, who would've cruised to a second term... brush Jan 2021 #35

Yup, too bad for him but good for us. AmyStrange Jan 2021 #36

Having lived through many coups, not even close grantcart Jan 2021 #37

That's what it was, but IMO trump hoped for more. brush Jan 2021 #38

Not even close to a coup d etat grantcart Jan 2021 #39

Trump doesn't have the smarts to mastermind a coup attempt. Kaleva Jan 2021 #40

Not a coup, but definitely an insurrection. GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #41