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samsingh

(17,599 posts) Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:55 AM Mar 2021

another white male mass killer arrested alive by the police [View all]

Amazing how the police can arrest white males, who were heavily armed and just killed many people, alive. Yet an unarmed black man minding his own business is killed by many well armed police - over and over again.

https://apnews.com/article/shootings-colorado-74ad3bbbe6dea7e9122b946e22b1cef3

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another white male mass killer arrested alive by the police [View all] samsingh Mar 2021 OP

Had it been a Black man, he would have been dead.. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2021 #1

Had it been a Black man, he would have been dead.. taxi Mar 2021 #4

Had it been a Muslim, he would have been-- um... Bucky Mar 2021 #113

Real world events are not cynicsm. What are you saying? nt taxi Mar 2021 #115

this is not about religion, its about racism against visible minorities and skin color samsingh Mar 2021 #171

and then his reputation attacked by made up or exaggerated talking points samsingh Mar 2021 #170

Senator Bracy of Orlando is considering entering the race for Governor taxi Mar 2021 #175

Today Shevrin Jones and the Black caucus stood with The African-American Clergy Alliance. (tweet) taxi Mar 2021 #179

they want this guy to fry..remember he killed one of their own.... samnsara Mar 2021 #2

'they want this guy to fry' Celerity Mar 2021 #3

Okay, they want him to rot in prison for life.. whathehell Mar 2021 #14

works for me Celerity Mar 2021 #15

Me too. whathehell Mar 2021 #20

so either way the police are making a determination on who rots in prison and who they kill samsingh Mar 2021 #21

I'm well aware whathehell Mar 2021 #26

not mass shooters barbtries Mar 2021 #31

Big dif? whathehell Mar 2021 #34

the difference is barbtries Mar 2021 #35

..and many white.mass shooters have been killed on the spot. whathehell Mar 2021 #37

that's a good point samsingh Mar 2021 #54

first, they were arrested and not caught in the act. samsingh Mar 2021 #172

Overplayed?!! Solomon Mar 2021 #177

i don't understand how black men being executed by the police is overplayed. samsingh Mar 2021 #180

Would you prefer "Overstated"? whathehell Mar 2021 #181

They'll pull and Epstein n/t aggiesal Mar 2021 #79

For this Boulder cop killer?..Whatever for? whathehell Mar 2021 #136

Just to NOT say they killed him n/t aggiesal Mar 2021 #149

No, there's little to no need for the "cloak and dagger" with mass shooters whathehell Mar 2021 #155

Naaaah, they probably took him out for a burger UpInArms Mar 2021 #6

Um, no, that was Georgia.. whathehell Mar 2021 #18

True ... UpInArms Mar 2021 #19

Um, no, that was south carolina Dawgman49 Mar 2021 #25

Um, no, the "bad day" Asian spa killings happened in Atlanta last week whathehell Mar 2021 #29

South Carolina (I assume you are talking about Dylann Roof) and Snopes called it false Celerity Mar 2021 #27

Yes, I know about Dylann Roof. whathehell Mar 2021 #30

taken out vs brought too doesn't change the fact he was treated humanely vs many black males uponit7771 Mar 2021 #39

non sequitur Celerity Mar 2021 #52

Thank you for this. This will upset quite a few people's applecart lol. Treefrog Mar 2021 #92

exactly samsingh Mar 2021 #22

That isn't the point. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #17

This is acceptable collateral damage Cosmocat Mar 2021 #36

I am so furious UpInArms Mar 2021 #5

I've watched several videos of all those black men being shot or killed by police but nothing distur Chipper Chat Mar 2021 #7

Me, too UpInArms Mar 2021 #8

Did the cop who jumped out of the car to shoot Tamir robbob Mar 2021 #9

He is Syrian. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #141

He doesn't appear black or brown UpInArms Mar 2021 #156

He looks Middle Eastern, Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #164

I do so you enjoy your life UpInArms Mar 2021 #165

If he were black, or Muslim, or an immigrant... spinbaby Mar 2021 #10

He is a Syrian Immigrant. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #87

Oopsie. I had a feeling this was going to happen. Jumping to conclusions is never a good thing. Treefrog Mar 2021 #95

he is not a black man - that is the key samsingh Mar 2021 #173

Had it been a black man, he'd be dead. ancianita Mar 2021 #11

strangled, shot, or fallen out of a window samsingh Mar 2021 #53

Did he have a bad day? IronLionZion Mar 2021 #12

George Floyd, a black American, Upthevibe Mar 2021 #13

the police have pulled a murderous con the american people aided by white supremists and cowards samsingh Mar 2021 #24

Was that cop that got killed part of this con? Treefrog Mar 2021 #99

no - but let's get serious and look at the number of unarmed black men and women that get killed samsingh Mar 2021 #122

He was probably just having a bad day.... Mars and Minerva Mar 2021 #16

A Black man could never have gotten far from his car with a rifle, even if CO is an FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #23

i thought i read on here that there was a study done that most of these trigger happy folk AllaN01Bear Mar 2021 #28

They had the time to cut open the roof bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #32

Justice will come. colorado_ufo Mar 2021 #33

There's no justice involved, here. (nt) Paladin Mar 2021 #38

Yes, it is typically better that they are arrested, examined, and tried. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #90

You put that very well, and I do understand and appreciate your kind response. colorado_ufo Mar 2021 #146

It is a fraught issue for sure. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #148

Is he white? His name is not one normally one would associate with a white man. Treefrog Mar 2021 #40

given that he's alive i would be shocked if he wasn't white. samsingh Mar 2021 #41

His name is Ahmad Alyssa. I'd be shocked if he was white. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #45

lol Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2021 #55

Somehow I don't think that's what the OP had in mind. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #66

DI (and others) missed the joke. NutmegYankee Mar 2021 #73

Is it Ayssa or Al-Issa ? seeing both GusBob Mar 2021 #46

It's Al-Issa. I found his FB Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #47

Any idea about his motivation? Mosby Mar 2021 #56

No. His FB is pretty typical. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #58

He ran in wearing nothing but his boxers Sapient Donkey Mar 2021 #62

He was wearing body armor that at some point was removed. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #67

Really? I have heard that. I may be mistaken, but I thought a story I read said an unclothed man ran Sapient Donkey Mar 2021 #168

I think, looking for weapons, they stripped the suspect GusBob Mar 2021 #76

He's still classified as white and to the police he would be white from a distance samsingh Mar 2021 #49

Boy. Our middle eastern friends will be happy to know they're treated just like whites. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #50

the suspect is alive while a Black Man would have been shot or stangled samsingh Mar 2021 #51

So? You do realize things can happen independently? Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #57

We'll see, they find out this guy is Muslim they wont take him hamburgers any more or some shit uponit7771 Mar 2021 #65

We'll see how DU approaches this since it doesn't fall into their shooters trope. Drunken Irishman Mar 2021 #71

Syrians are mostly Caucasian, his skin being white is what is what they see and everything uponit7771 Mar 2021 #75

maybe i should have just said, the killer will not be 'black' and likely not 'asian' samsingh Mar 2021 #174

I think we're seeing the comic absurdity BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #94

Do you know many Syrians? By Census they consider THEMSELVES white skinned and they are uponit7771 Mar 2021 #108

I find it more sad than funny. jcmaine72 Mar 2021 #139

I'm pretty sure I know exactly how du will approach it. The many threads of outrage about the Treefrog Mar 2021 #98

I know, right? BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #69

It is so common, in these situations, for knee jerk reactions GusBob Mar 2021 #72

Nobody does knee jerk like we do here. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #74

Ya I learned along time ago, wait GusBob Mar 2021 #77

But in our case it is the left knee that jerks Steelrolled Mar 2021 #140

If you say so BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #143

It was a joke. Steelrolled Mar 2021 #147

And now the pretzeling begins. Treefrog Mar 2021 #96

This thread has aged like a shrimp cocktail sitting outside on a 100 degree day BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #80

Funny over the years I lurked here that I noticed this propensity of du to immediately blame a Treefrog Mar 2021 #101

This one should have been deleted hours ago BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #106

It's really breathtaking. I wish I were that limber! I'd be a hit in yoga class! Treefrog Mar 2021 #111

Well about 90 minutes ago sarisataka Mar 2021 #121

Yes, I'm sadly not surprised. BY tomorrow, I'll probably have to search for this thread. Treefrog Mar 2021 #135

Americans are the best at killing. twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #42

That guy in the photo looks a lot older than the 21 year old they identified . Aerator Mar 2021 #44

premature balding Celerity Mar 2021 #63

And in Texas... WestofDenver Mar 2021 #59

he wasn't white, his name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa Celerity Mar 2021 #60

He's Syrian IINM, they're mostly Caucasian he's technically white even though US culture doesn't uponit7771 Mar 2021 #68

That is completely counterfactual. In the US, UK, Sweden, and all other nations he is not going Celerity Mar 2021 #81

I disagree, not only is the shooter text book Caucasian his skin color is white and he was treated uponit7771 Mar 2021 #82

you are just way off, sorry, you are misrepresenting reality to fit your narrative Celerity Mar 2021 #91

Syrians in the US are white by Census, facts matter (link). uponit7771 Mar 2021 #103

Ask 1000 Syrians in the US if they think they are beneficiaries of white privilege, and if they get Celerity Mar 2021 #109

More irrelevant, Syrians consider themselves white and are called white by census and this uponit7771 Mar 2021 #118

I have no idea why you are trying to whitewash US anti-middle eastern racism, and toss Syrians Celerity Mar 2021 #125

Oh, I have a good idea why. Kinda sad in a way. Treefrog Mar 2021 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2021 #84

I guess Glaisne Mar 2021 #61

Yeah, apparently that courtesy extends to white guys named...Ahmad BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #64

Nah, its mostly about skin color (pic) but get your point once they find out him might be Muslim uponit7771 Mar 2021 #70

While the police killed [black]Elijah McClain while he apologized for not doing anything wrong iluvtennis Mar 2021 #78

Yep, Syrians are mostly Caucasian and so is the shooters skin color which is what some police ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #83

That's some pretty solid spin BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #85

facts matter uponit7771 Mar 2021 #88

Indeed BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #93

+1000 Celerity Mar 2021 #100

FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Syrians are white by US Census. Your ad homs and "bets" aren't facts uponit7771 Mar 2021 #104

Also not in dispute: A studious eliding of how "unwhite" Syriac-Americans were recently friendly_iconoclast Mar 2021 #124

Oh boy, you're really trying here aren't you? Treefrog Mar 2021 #105

To highlight some LEOs treat people different based on skin color !? Fuck yes! Are you claiming uponit7771 Mar 2021 #107

Ok, it's ok. It didn't turn out like you and some others expected. It's ok, all ok. Treefrog Mar 2021 #110

So yeah, figured you wouldn't answer the simple question I asked. whatever uponit7771 Mar 2021 #114

I'm sorry, but when people start with personal insults, it's obvious that either a) they've lost the Treefrog Mar 2021 #117

Please highlight where I proffered insults in any way? If you can't consider answering the uponit7771 Mar 2021 #119

I recommend a cup of tea. It works wonders. Treefrog Mar 2021 #120

Some might say he "looks just like a Muslim terrorist" GusBob Mar 2021 #112

+1, probably now but at the point of arrest they most likely thought he was white and called him suc uponit7771 Mar 2021 #116

'they most likely thought he was white' Celerity Mar 2021 #127

"Shooter was a white male ...."?!?! What point are you trying to make? uponit7771 Mar 2021 #128

have fun digging the hole deeper, I am done Celerity Mar 2021 #129

Another dodge, they're going around these days, 🙄🙄🙄 uponit7771 Mar 2021 #130

Seriously fella, give it a rest for awhile. Your attempts to make a Syrian refugee into a privileged Treefrog Mar 2021 #133

lol, he IS a white man ... omfg. Your "views" of him doesn't change that uponit7771 Mar 2021 #151

I didn't 'dodge' anything, I fully expressed why I think you are completely wrong 🙄🙄🙄 Celerity Mar 2021 #138

He wasn't completely unharmed. LisaL Mar 2021 #102

A good thing for that shooter that he wasn't just some random motorist. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #86

+1, my understanding lack of top leadership who don't care about or look at bad actors records ... uponit7771 Mar 2021 #89

I think there is a certain amount of "gotta keep up the dept's good name" going on, as well. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #123

September 8, 2014 - King Soopers, Kroger Stores Targeted for Gun Policies by Moms Group taxi Mar 2021 #97

Not exactly the kind of white male we were expecting, eh? jcmaine72 Mar 2021 #126

The killer is a white male; what kind of white male were YOU expecting? W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #142

He's a Syrian immigrant. What people are commenting on is that had people known he was not a Treefrog Mar 2021 #150

The OP did not state anything about where the man was from or whether he was an immigrant or not. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #157

Where did I say the op said anything different? You sure you read my post? Treefrog Mar 2021 #158

I think it is you that need to follow the conversation more closely. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #161

Sorry, this frequently rehashed comparison doesn't work brooklynite Mar 2021 #131

Um....not so much..... Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #134

"Not so much" to what exactly? W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #144

Is he not Syrian? Dial H For Hero Mar 2021 #152

Neither Syrian nor Arab is a race. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #159

Seeing the title, I knew this thread would be a fascinating Steelrolled Mar 2021 #137

So Middle Easterners are white now? I need to keep up with the lingo. WarGamer Mar 2021 #145

It's embarrassing this thread hasn't been self deleted. BannonsLiver Mar 2021 #153

It really is. TheProle Mar 2021 #154

And the absolute refusal to admit an obvious, and somewhat justified mistake FrankBooth Mar 2021 #160

The worst part is always the doubling down that now inevitably occurs following eff-ups like this jcmaine72 Mar 2021 #163

"Middle Eastern" isn't a race. W_HAMILTON Mar 2021 #162

+1 n/t ChazII Mar 2021 #166

Named Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, and from Syria. nt pnwmom Mar 2021 #167

he is not a black or asian man. samsingh Mar 2021 #169

Yesterday they took Rico Marley alive in Atlanta. A black man. Armed with six guns. Treefrog Mar 2021 #176

again - it's not that it never happens samsingh Mar 2021 #178