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In reply to the discussion: Vaccination question not asked by the MSM [View all]FBaggins
(26,731 posts)33. And my response was that it does not, in fact, seem plausible
So when you feel run down following a vaccine shot, this is your immune system responding to the vaccine in an identical fashion as it would respond to an actual infection. So if your immune system is responding to the vaccine in your blood, is it not less able to respond at that moment to a massive exposure of actual virus in your lungs? Even if only slightly?
Just the opposite is at least as likely. Scientists have noticed that people rarely get a cold and the flu at the same time. This might be because both viruses are competing for the same territory, but it could also be because the immune response to the first virus makes it harder for the second one to take hold.
But the point is that if there were a general principle that your body is more susceptible to a given virus while the immune system is responding to a vaccine targeting that virus... we would expect to have seen such an issue over the many billions of vaccinations in the last several decades. Your "not during a pandemic" response is inadequate. Flu vaccines are given while the flu is circulating. That's hundreds of millions of chances for this imagined effect to show up - and most primary vaccines were initially developed while those illnesses were running rampant.
Just the opposite is at least as likely. Scientists have noticed that people rarely get a cold and the flu at the same time. This might be because both viruses are competing for the same territory, but it could also be because the immune response to the first virus makes it harder for the second one to take hold.
But the point is that if there were a general principle that your body is more susceptible to a given virus while the immune system is responding to a vaccine targeting that virus... we would expect to have seen such an issue over the many billions of vaccinations in the last several decades. Your "not during a pandemic" response is inadequate. Flu vaccines are given while the flu is circulating. That's hundreds of millions of chances for this imagined effect to show up - and most primary vaccines were initially developed while those illnesses were running rampant.
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Here is a report of hospitalization of a fully vaccinated person - i think it's a good question
womanofthehills
Mar 2021
#56
Some scientists have said that because the spike protein is so specific it dominates your natural
womanofthehills
Mar 2021
#57
So in the short term the vaccine can suppress the mechanism of the virus in a different way?
Shermann
Mar 2021
#52
Direct opposition? Not really, there is a huge 11 day hole in this rebuttal of yours
Shermann
Mar 2021
#66
Your immune system, esp. soreness of your arm, is also responding to the adjuvants in the vaccine
womanofthehills
Mar 2021
#61
So your assertion is that the protection goes straight up immediately following the first shot?
Shermann
Mar 2021
#21
If I told you that I am an expert, you'd really have no way to verify it, would you?
LisaL
Mar 2021
#30
So your assertion stands because if you supported it, the support couldn't be verified?
Shermann
Mar 2021
#36