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Kid Berwyn

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82. Tapes and photographs are evidence.
Wed May 26, 2021, 06:36 PM
May 2021

For example, Radar-Visual cases, where eyewitnesses have their testimony supported by radar records. Here’s an excellent example from Michigan in 1994:

Retired meteorologist shares his account of 1994 West Michigan UFO sightings

by Meteorologist Will Haenni | Newschannel 3Thursday, September 3rd 2020

KALAMAZOO, Mich. — "They were just moving so fast, and two more started coming into play there. I really had little time to describe where they were before they had moved and jumped again," said Jack Bushong, a retired meteorologist describing what he saw on radar the night of March 8, 1994.

Bushong spent his career working for the National Weather Service. On the night of March 8, 1994, he was manning the National Weather Service office by himself in Muskegon on a cold but routine night. The NWS no longer has an office or radar there after the government forecasting agency went through modernization and reorganization in the mid-90s.


You could pretty much use it like a spotlight," Bushong said when describing the operation of the radar at the time. "I had two cranks to bring it up or down, or side to side. You pretty much sent it out searching for weather: any type of rain, sleet snow; or hail is what we were usually looking for when we took it off of automatic mode.”

Bushong recounts the object first appeared alone on radar returns. "It started as one," he said. "The object was coasting at about 100 miles per hour."

He said as he was watching the object, it stopped and started hovering. "And then it shot up, about 5,000 feet, then 10,000 feet I was getting it, just straight up," Bushong said. "At this point, the police officer was saying that he was seeing the same thing with that same object."

"It was almost as if, it was like it was saying to me, 'hey, I know you can see me,'" Bushong said. "Until that one got up to about 30, 40 thousand feet, and finally I saw it."



Eyewitnesses on the ground included police officers who shared what they saw, brilliantly shining lights over Lake Michigan.
Here's the thing. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #1
Why would you assume they need one? Happy Hoosier May 2021 #6
You'll know the mother ship when you see it, it'll be hanging in the air the way that bricks don't. Towlie May 2021 #7
Jacques Vallee also says the extraterrestrial hypothesis is inadequate. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #8
I was just re-reading Passport To Magonia (1969) this morning. Midnight Writer May 2021 #18
Great record of the long history, written a decade before "Messengers of Deception." Kid Berwyn May 2021 #50
Would be a mistake to apply the typical alien movie narrative to whatever is going on. BannonsLiver May 2021 #16
They could be interdimensional Generic Brad May 2021 #27
Why do you assume they are terrestrial? elevator May 2021 #32
Not sure where it is right now... tonedevil May 2021 #34
The mother shop will be in Detroit June 14th 48656c6c6f20 May 2021 #39
All from Monroe, Michigan would be there if we could. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #45
If there was some department in the government that really know about the UFOs captain queeg May 2021 #2
Excellent points, Captain. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #11
Broken clock. edhopper May 2021 #3
What if the clock is broken, yet runs? Kid Berwyn May 2021 #13
Vallee certainly is. edhopper May 2021 #14
He's got a PhD in computer science from Northwestern. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #20
Using Hynek as a recommendation edhopper May 2021 #41
He had a PhD in astronomy from U Chicago... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #57
I am well aware of who they are edhopper May 2021 #58
Why do you write that? Kid Berwyn May 2021 #61
Carl Sagan edhopper May 2021 #62
Pioneer 10 Kid Berwyn May 2021 #67
Biden just said something like "ask Obama" when asked about UFO's Polybius May 2021 #4
Fox Noise reporter asked, President Biden responded... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #19
Reid, was a smart man and I daresay, far ahead on this issue to SWBTATTReg May 2022 #87
I believe today's hearings accomplished their primary goal. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #88
You're right, this was just a 'show' and no way was really going to reveal anything of importance. SWBTATTReg May 2022 #89
The one I saw has not been duplicated as far as I know. Kingofalldems May 2021 #5
Sounds like what I saw in Texas in 1964 left-of-center2012 May 2021 #17
I had an uncle in Ohio who saw that phenomena around 1925 Captain Zero May 2021 #38
Pretty much what I saw. Kingofalldems May 2021 #43
Close Encounter I Kid Berwyn May 2021 #30
It was dark pretty much. Kingofalldems May 2021 #42
You're going to need ... Xoan May 2021 #9
What Navy personnel photographed... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #37
OK, I've got 2 UFO stories Trailrider1951 May 2021 #10
Please report these to MUFON Beaverhausen May 2021 #25
I once saw something similar but with multiple lights looking like stars zig zagging BSdetect May 2021 #40
Goodyear blimp has caused many a report. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #44
Who or what could survive the great distances they would need to travel. rickford66 May 2021 #12
I think Clarke's three laws apply if we're going to speculate on what extraterrestrial highplainsdem May 2021 #15
"What can be conceived, can be created." -- Enzo Ferrari Kid Berwyn May 2021 #48
Think about the technology we had on earth just 150 years ago compared to today. Then what doc03 May 2021 #21
Technological progress seems to be accelerating. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #54
Man I wish Frank Zappa were still alive! Initech May 2021 #22
Me, too. Every day. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #55
Here is an honest theory about UFOs..Yes there is a strong possibility of some alien race exceeding Stuart G May 2021 #23
Ok, I'm sold, I'll believe anything from now on! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #63
I don't know what UFOs are or if anything is possible. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #64
How do we know that these things are not just debris that enters the earth all the time? Maraya1969 May 2021 #24
UFOs as alien spacecraft really doesn't explain things. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #68
Early in my lifetime, computers were a dream...Sci Fiction.. Stuart G May 2021 #26
A police officer I worked with for years told me something amazing... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #72
The Known Universe Is Enormous colsohlibgal May 2021 #28
I agree completely...The thought that it is only us.."ludicrous" Stuart G May 2021 #31
Very few people claim "it's only us" brooklynite May 2021 #49
Passport to Magonia Kid Berwyn May 2021 #85
Another possibility. roamer65 May 2021 #29
Black holes as an "EXIT" from one Space-Time to another. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #71
Pffft that's not a UFO, that's Batman. Volaris May 2021 #33
A Poem Kid Berwyn May 2021 #76
I think you run into a problem when you use Trump to norm-reference human behavior Bucky May 2021 #35
Compared to everyone else, Trump is the bottom of the barrel. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #77
You can't prove a negative. ananda May 2021 #36
Logically so. However, there are tapes. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #78
Tapes mean nothing. ananda May 2021 #80
Tapes and photographs are evidence. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #82
I tried. Lord knows I tried. Iggo May 2021 #46
I know. And I appreciate it. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #79
The real reason Trump was dismissive about UFOs: area51 May 2021 #47
The Thing Kid Berwyn May 2021 #73
Who has more credibility? The fool who is the most prolific liar in US history, Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2021 #51
Absolutely credible USN witnesses. Truly fascinating reports, theirs. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #74
There are no UFOs as stupid trump thinks. He is fooling you all to make you think akbacchus_BC May 2021 #52
Harry Reid in May 21 NYT wrote there is something to it. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #81
We live in a time where there are high def cameras in literally everyone's pocket. Dave Starsky May 2021 #53
Have you ever tried to film a plane or chopper? ecstatic May 2021 #65
Still not buying it. Dave Starsky May 2021 #66
+1000!!! Silly people believe bad proof! Nt USALiberal May 2021 #75
Some of the best photos were taken by Rex Heflin, a government employee... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #84
"But people are saying they're seeing UFOs. Do I believe it? Not particularly." Caliman73 May 2021 #56
Excellent points. What some science people said... Kid Berwyn May 2021 #69
Definitely. Science, even with its flaws, is the best method that humans have of discovering fact. Caliman73 May 2021 #70
thanks, that's two things i've heard more than enough about. uncle ray May 2021 #59
Check out today's (Friday, May 28) POLITICO mag, then go through the thread. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #86
Then he went on to create the space force for some unknown reason... Mr. Sparkle May 2021 #60
Dr. Jacques Vallee should be science program director. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #83
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