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11. The DNC was shortsighted running Hillary

Reply to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:04 PM

Jul 2021

Regardless of how anyone here feels about Hillary Clinton, she was the wrong candidate for the time. The rightwing noise machine had decades to vilify her and her only chance was..well, when Obama got the nomination instead

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Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade and VRA [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 OP

Many on DU at the time mcar Jul 2021 #1

I was not one of these posters LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #4

Well, but no honest posters said that. We're not crazy whackjobs. Hortensis Jul 2021 #22

It reflected a large enough social media group mcar Jul 2021 #48

Yes. We'll never know how many voters were swayed by their lies. nt Hortensis Jul 2021 #50

I'll always be angry about it mcar Jul 2021 #51

There's something obviously wrong with people too divorced from reality Hortensis Jul 2021 #55

That's right. Remember the post ACA midterms mcar Jul 2021 #60

Oh, yes! The ACA cost Dems 63 house seats, 63!, lost to the Republicans, Hortensis Jul 2021 #70

And from what I can tell many are still at it. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #82

The 2016 disaster is STILL happening in 2021. Hortensis Jul 2021 #111

I think there were a lot of bots, trolls, and hacks at DU in 2016. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #136

Perhaps. But it's not like DU make this decision fescuerescue Jul 2021 #58

They claimed pointing out that SCOTUS was at stake was "scare tactics" kcr Jul 2021 #122

That's right mcar Jul 2021 #124

While trying to scare the hell out of people with a cartoonish Hillary "Satan" Clinton betsuni Jul 2021 #128

And all the Democrats who just "could not bring themselves" to vote for Hillary question everything Jul 2021 #2

Jill Stein voters in swing stares ColinC Jul 2021 #3

A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for the former guy and to gut Roe v. Wade LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #5

In swing states ColinC Jul 2021 #8

Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #14

How many electoral college votes did Jill Stein get? ColinC Jul 2021 #27

Here are facts for you to ignore LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #32

In swing states, I agree ColinC Jul 2021 #35

Thanks for the Reality Check. this is NOT about "EC" Cha Jul 2021 #39

+1 betsuni Jul 2021 #52

"Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016." Cha Jul 2021 #37

The number of votes The Russian Princess- Jill Stein- in Wisconsin and other Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #83

Bullshit, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2021 #6

Agreed LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #34

Progressives have to start voting like adults! Thunderbeast Jul 2021 #7

This post is bullshit and meant to cause division luv2fly Jul 2021 #9

So the SCOTUS did not gut the voting rights act? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #15

Not so sure it's helpful calling fellow Democrats idiots luv2fly Jul 2021 #71

People who did not vote for Hillary are the reason why the SCOTUS gutted the remainder of the VRA LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #76

Which includes all sorts of folks luv2fly Jul 2021 #80

I didn't see anyone call "fellow Democrats" idiots, or anyone idiots. But if they were Jill Stein... George II Jul 2021 #79

Nobody said that. Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #103

Cut people some slack. The Supreme Court decision today opened old wounds. Politicub Jul 2021 #36

No, it's political history & too bad it makes Cha Jul 2021 #42

Yes, nobody here voted for Susan Sarandon or Jill Stein. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #125

The rage in my heart towards the "I just don't like Hillary" self-proclaimed progressives Aristus Jul 2021 #10

Absolutely! MountainMama Jul 2021 #28

Enjoy the shitshow? XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #127

Don't know.... MountainMama Jul 2021 #137

The DNC was shortsighted running Hillary leftstreet Jul 2021 #11

You are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #12

You're actually right leftstreet Jul 2021 #13

Yes Putin was more effective that we thought LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #16

She got more votes than President Obama got in the primary. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #29

Her approval rating was 64% in 2013. Voted Most Admired Woman for 17 years. She was liked. betsuni Jul 2021 #54

But that didn't get her to 2016 leftstreet Jul 2021 #56

But nobody knew the future. So many unprecedented things happened. betsuni Jul 2021 #69

It wasn't just the Republicans...there was much mud slinging from the left/ Greens which Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #85

For a fantasy populist "revolution." betsuni Jul 2021 #90

She left office with a 69 percent job approval, 66 percent personal favorability. StevieM Jul 2021 #65

Qualified does not mean electable. Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #31

Putin was very effective and got his moneys worth LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #93

And yet the invincible Putin couldn't beat Biden. Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #101

Four years after 2016, they knew very well about Russian interference. betsuni Jul 2021 #102

The DNC didn't select Hillary, Democratic primary voters did. tritsofme Jul 2021 #18

The claim that the DNC selected Hillary is one of the lies Putin used effectively LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #19

This is a misunderstanding of how primaries work uponit7771 Jul 2021 #57

No, I get how they work leftstreet Jul 2021 #59

How? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #61

The DNC didn't run anyone. StevieM Jul 2021 #66

+1, more of the ... DNC ... chose HRC vs the voters did crap uponit7771 Jul 2021 #72

There are congressional candidates who pushed the Putin lie on DNC selecting Hillary LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #116

Yep, uponit7771 Jul 2021 #117

+1 betsuni Jul 2021 #118

She won the primary. Millions voted for her. And I heard this same shit in 15 and 16. The Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #84

Okay. Millions of people chose the wrong candidate then n/t leftstreet Jul 2021 #86

Actually they picked the best candidate running LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #91

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #97

I just saw TYT say that wealthy donors chose Kamala Harris as VP. betsuni Jul 2021 #92

Conspiracy theory. "Easily the most ridiculous argument this year was that the DNC betsuni Jul 2021 #100

So you're arguing the DNC not Hillary's voters nominated her? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #112

Ari Berman is correct LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #17

Remember, in the fall of 2016 Sarandon said that trump would bring the revolution sooner... George II Jul 2021 #20

Sarandon is another poster child for white privilege Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #113

Explain to me how castigating the voters of 5 years ago helps us today? lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #21

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #23

I think we all know the history. Now you're just repeating it... lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #24

It's not repeating the history, it's reminding us of what happened in history, hoping people.... George II Jul 2021 #25

Then don't read it.. it's not going to be buried Cha Jul 2021 #45

Hillary tried to warn us LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #62

Rt TY.. That pisses me the hell off. Cha Jul 2021 #44

Due to stein voters and sanders voters who voted for TFG, the VRA has been gutted LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #78

Rt TY! Cha Jul 2021 #81

It isn't "castigating". It is reminding people that when they consider their vote... Caliman73 Jul 2021 #33

OK. Let's point that out. If the choice is centrist Dem vs Reptilian (or sitting it out), lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #41

I don't think they care if they alienate people with all this. SunImp Jul 2021 #95

It helps ETERNALLY Petty people sleep at night I guess SunImp Jul 2021 #94

Oh, well kcr Jul 2021 #123

The Voting Rights Ruling Is Worse Than It Seems LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #134

It is a terrible ruling; we all know that. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #135

This is like a company blaming the consumers for not buying its product. A losing strategy IMHO. jalan48 Jul 2021 #26

You do know that Putin targeted sanders and Stein voters LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #77

We needed a better candidate who could beat shithead. Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #30

Post-election surveys have shown that a large portion of Stein and Nader voters TheRickles Jul 2021 #38

+1 Earth-shine Jul 2021 #49

Bullshit...self serving polls if you ask me. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #87

If the choice is between your opinion or CNN's analysis of exit polls..... TheRickles Jul 2021 #104

Just as many DU'ers did I begged cajoled and pleaded with ppl to remember SCOTUS PortTack Jul 2021 #40

Better to focus on what should be done NOW, not in 2016 Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #43

I have been volunteering on voter protection efforts for a very long time LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #74

It still continues. Look how Biden was attacked and is currently attacked by groups that are Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #88

Choices: 1) waste time & energy fretting about "attacks from allies" or Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #110

I'll go with #3. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #121

SCOTUS was the only issue for me in 2016. It was a devastating blow. Pepsidog Jul 2021 #46

"Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016." Cha Jul 2021 #47

They would've cheated her regardless peppertree Jul 2021 #53

Why don't Gary Johnson voters ever get shit? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #63

Agreed. Johnson took more votes from Hillary than Stein did. StevieM Jul 2021 #67

Stein campaigned in areas where she could do the most damage and it is her votes in blue Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #89

I don't disagree but we should not ignore James Comey destroying our candidate over nonsense. (eom) StevieM Jul 2021 #99

Right? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #108

I don't think the reading of causes has been terribly accurate either. StevieM Jul 2021 #114

Because he tends to hurt the other side fescuerescue Jul 2021 #106

Yeah, this horse has been flayed into oblivion Sympthsical Jul 2021 #107

Fuck them forever. Never let them forget what they did to our country. W_HAMILTON Jul 2021 #64

I don't disagree with the point being made, but it tends to overshadow what Comey did. StevieM Jul 2021 #68

I agree to a point rockfordfile Jul 2021 #73

Ari Berman-We need to fight GOP Voter Suppression now LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #75

"How we voted is not as important as that we voted. Head & heart at odds for many." betsuni Jul 2021 #96

and everyone else who voted for anyone but Hillary. nt iemanja Jul 2021 #98

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #133

Losing elections suck. It happens about half the time. fescuerescue Jul 2021 #105

Clinton would not have lost but for Jill Stein and sanders voters LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #115

It happens fescuerescue Jul 2021 #126

Thank you! You are the only here speaking logically and rationally SunImp Jul 2021 #130

SCOTUS and redistricting. nt Kahuna Jul 2021 #109

The Voting Rights Act has been gutted due to this stupidity LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #119

Yes. Thank you. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #120

And yet we still see posts cheering on Nina Turner here DFW Jul 2021 #129

A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for the former guy and to gut Roe v. Wade LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #131

"The Supreme Court's Conservatives Have Laid the Groundwork for the Devastation to Come" LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #132