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Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
9. Bullshit!
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:57 PM
Aug 2021

Turner was not elected because not because she is "independent" but because she ran AGAINST the Democratic Party in a Democratic Primary.

I have no problem with any progressive Democratic candidate saying that the Party has to do more, or calling out things within the party that they disagree with. Many progressive Democrats who are serving in Congress have done so, and have fought to pull the party towards progressivism. No problem with that. I have a problem when a Democratic candidate focuses solely on the Democratic Party as THE problem, says that the leader of the Democratic Party is like a bowl of shit, and seeks only to disrupt the party, ostensibly planning to switch affiliation if she had won the primary. That is not "independence" that is deceit and treachery.


Also, god forbid that the Democratic Party appeal to diverse coalitions of voters to get their preferred candidate into office. I did not know that voters in Shaker Heights, in the fucking district, had to sit out this primary and just let Black voters decide who to represent the district. By the way, Black leaders ALSO endorsed Shontell Brown over Turner, but then that doesn't count right? Because those were White Black leaders right?

Turner got beat because she actually had nothing but negative populist rhetoric on her side. No real plans except, "send me to Washington to fuck with the Democrats".

cenk did the same thing when he didn't win a bid for whatever office he was running for in 2020 PortTack Aug 2021 #1
He was in a multi-candidate House primary. He got 5%. George II Aug 2021 #12
Turning out voters is the name of the game lame54 Aug 2021 #2
I suggest we focus on the solidarity of the win Tetrachloride Aug 2021 #3
Eventually. But not today. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #5
some folks are so deeply invested in trying to bury anything associated with Bernie Sanders bigtree Aug 2021 #23
Yawn! (Spare me.) NurseJackie Aug 2021 #34
oh, but I have bigtree Aug 2021 #35
If only that were true. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #36
no mocking from me bigtree Aug 2021 #39
Lulz! Turner deserves to be mocked, ridiculed and gloated-over! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #42
but I'm not a Turner supporter bigtree Aug 2021 #43
Nobody said you were. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #46
nothing but ridicule bigtree Aug 2021 #48
She deserves it! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #51
she lost bigtree Aug 2021 #52
Lulz! Eventually... but NOT today! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #54
you deserve a moment? bigtree Aug 2021 #56
We deserve more than that. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #58
It is Hilarious when Anyone thinks they Cha Aug 2021 #67
There's this "I know better than you" attitude that... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #76
Exactly.. it's an all too prevalent Cha Aug 2021 #83
Oh, but that is damned funny! DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #105
Yes, it was a solid win. Kind of like an old time trainer's instructions to his jockey..... George II Aug 2021 #40
So Cenk & BJG's Nastiness should just Cha Aug 2021 #44
Do You Want A List? ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #4
I got trashed on Twitter for not supporting Turner, a "woman of color"..... George II Aug 2021 #13
Now, That's Reactionary! ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #20
They're ignoring Turner's quote that voting for Biden is like... brush Aug 2021 #27
If One Really Believes In Unity... ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #49
Yep, you don't get anywhere taking stances that can never happen. brush Aug 2021 #57
About the only thing it's good for is fundraising. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #59
"vanity and ego." Exactly. Hey, look at me. I'm defying everybody... brush Aug 2021 #62
Yeah, nothing they said made sense PatSeg Aug 2021 #73
can't stand either one of them... agingdem Aug 2021 #6
It's called cannabis_flower Aug 2021 #7
Q: What can you make with sour grapes? NurseJackie Aug 2021 #8
Dare I? George II Aug 2021 #15
Bwahahaha! mcar Aug 2021 #30
IMO they've crossed over to being so far left they're to the right. brush Aug 2021 #28
The two extreme ends of the "political horseshoe"... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #37
Bullshit! Caliman73 Aug 2021 #9
Was important to defeat a turner empedocles Aug 2021 #19
They may be trying to pull the party treestar Aug 2021 #65
True, but they cannot pull voters unless they can get progressive legislation passed. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #68
I don't think we have a policy debate treestar Aug 2021 #75
Agreed. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #79
Power begins and ends with winning elections. I have often said that rather than primarying Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #106
Exactly! treestar Aug 2021 #110
Why Nina Turner, the real 'establishment,' lost Ohio Democratic primary race LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #96
I live in the 11th and proudly voted for Shontel...she will be great and I value party loyalty. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #107
Thank you LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #109
This is Joe Biden's Party Now LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #111
His cohort irritates me Capperdan Aug 2021 #10
What's wrong with a guy who swallowed every bullshit Hillary smear in 2016? JHB Aug 2021 #11
Is that another one of Cenk's fantasies? lapucelle Aug 2021 #14
Sore Loser Crybabies Me. Aug 2021 #16
Who gives a f**k what Gray and anti gay and misogynistic Uygur think JohnSJ Aug 2021 #17
Sounds like they are saying Brown is an "Uncle Tom" mcar Aug 2021 #18
That's EXACTLY what they're saying. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #21
Shaker Heights has a large Jewish population. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #53
Interesting. They like to talk "in code" a lot, don't they? NurseJackie Aug 2021 #60
Yes, of course it is mcar Aug 2021 #86
We almost bought a house in Shaker Heights...and you should delete this post. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #108
Know nothing about the area so I didn't know that... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #55
Here are some scenes from TYT last night, with an ironic ending: George II Aug 2021 #22
They have no idea why they lost. Good. That way they'll never learn. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #24
So, says the decades-long conservative Turk who denies the Armenian Genocide, but yet hlthe2b Aug 2021 #25
Thank you. It needed to be said! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #26
I just have to say TheFarseer Aug 2021 #69
He did early on hlthe2b Aug 2021 #70
A couple questions: Zeitghost Aug 2021 #72
"Young Turk" TheFarseer Aug 2021 #97
Then why did he brand all his programming as the name of the group mcar Aug 2021 #87
Thank You! Zeitghost Aug 2021 #71
I stopped watching The Young Turks long time ago. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #29
I'm surprised that TYT videos continue to be posted here. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #33
Same here and when candidates he likes don't win Tree Lady Aug 2021 #66
They want a revolution. haele Aug 2021 #31
Yes, FDR knew how to bring about positive, progressive change PatSeg Aug 2021 #78
That would take too much bandwidth to explain MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #32
He hates Democrats? Who cares about him? NNadir Aug 2021 #38
But he defends bestiality. Apparently, as long as the horse is ALSO sexually gratified... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #77
I can't say I'm all that familiar with his stuff. I stopped paying attention years and years ago. NNadir Aug 2021 #80
I wasn't either. I avoid him and all flavors of the TYT nonsense... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #81
Well, thanks for sharing it so that I can avoid finding out about it myself. NNadir Aug 2021 #91
They really don't take defeat very well FelineOverlord Aug 2021 #41
What???? PatSeg Aug 2021 #74
What???? FelineOverlord Aug 2021 #84
Corporate Dems turned out white voters in SC??? SKKY Aug 2021 #45
gmafb. That's projection ecstatic Aug 2021 #47
Hostiles gotta attack. Of course he wouldn't miss this opportunity Hortensis Aug 2021 #50
The anti-Semitism is out loud and proud. BlueLucy Aug 2021 #61
Yes it was. Code words or no code words. Blue_true Aug 2021 #94
The nerve of those white people Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #63
That's in the script. Accuse the enemy "establishment" of racism as well as corruption and betsuni Aug 2021 #64
On the bright side, Nina can at least say tishaLA Aug 2021 #82
I said this yesterday, but perhaps too cryptically. OilemFirchen Aug 2021 #85
You were correct. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #89
Good points. nt Blue_true Aug 2021 #95
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #101
Sore losers LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #88
That's an understatement. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #90
Why Nina Turner, the real 'establishment,' lost Ohio Democratic primary race LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #92
Joy Gray's post is pretty much anti-Semitic. Blue_true Aug 2021 #93
Cenk has lost it LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #98
Black folks and Jewish folks. BlueLucy Aug 2021 #99
It's the "Stockholm syndrome" thing they believe. betsuni Aug 2021 #100
I don't live in Shaker Hts but I know it Chili Aug 2021 #102
Thank you for that on the ground Cha Aug 2021 #103
hey Cha! Chili Aug 2021 #112
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #104
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