General Discussion

Cha

(297,200 posts)

158. FACT CHECK: Reverend Warnock Does Not Support Defunding The Police,

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 03:23 PM

Aug 2021

FACT CHECK: Reverend Warnock Does Not Support Defunding The Police, But Kelly Loeffler Has Voted Against Law Enforcement Funding

https://warnockforgeorgia.com/fact-check-reverend-warnock-does-not-support-defunding-the-police-but-kelly-loeffler-has-voted-against-law-enforcement-funding/

And so have these House Reps..

Link to tweet

How's that for DEFENSE!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

251 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

The defund the police talk needs to stop [View all] Boydog Aug 2021 OP

Who's talking about it? Which candidates? n/t leftstreet Aug 2021 #1

Cori Bush Boydog Aug 2021 #4

So you think she'll cost Democrats the midterms? n/t leftstreet Aug 2021 #5

I think she provides a "fringe" image they can tag to multiple candidates. brooklynite Aug 2021 #11

The hero who helped stop evictions? leftstreet Aug 2021 #14

Her efforts to stop evictions were commendable. Boydog Aug 2021 #24

lol blamestorming season is starting early n/t leftstreet Aug 2021 #27

blamestorming, I like that word Celerity Aug 2021 #80

Guess you don't know what happened. After her commendable... brush Aug 2021 #120

Maybe you should tell that to the people who keep asking her about it StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #136

I'm not having this argument with you. We disagree on it. brush Aug 2021 #138

Poor Jen had to deal with this stupid statement from Bush LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #243

It's vital for the country that Democrats win more seats in Congress. betsuni Aug 2021 #244

The people benefiting are not largely in the competitive districts. brooklynite Aug 2021 #31

Data to support? LanternWaste Aug 2021 #226

The competitive districts we won in 2018 (and lost some of in 2020) are in the suburbs. brooklynite Aug 2021 #234

President Biden had been working on stopping eviction since June 29 as soon as the Supreme.... George II Aug 2021 #166

This lady gave the GOP great clips to use in attack ads LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #202

The CDC order will likely be overturned LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #204

You really think that if Cori Bush never says anything again, Republicans won't smear Democrats? StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #19

Of course they will smear us but there's no need to help them. Boydog Aug 2021 #26

The only way to "avoid helping them" would be to say only things they agree with. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #34

Thank you StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #42

Yep. There are a lot in the party who simply cannot divest themselves of the idea that the best way WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #46

Still waiting to hear someone here insist that purple state Democrats lay off the StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #50

Heh. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #61

If we don't win, we are all on the fringe. Boydog Aug 2021 #94

*** POST OF THE MORNING !!! *** uponit7771 Aug 2021 #72

I had two friends run for state house in 2020 and they had the moronic defund the police ad used LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #207

Maybe they should have run more effective campaigns StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #210

Have you ever run for office? Have you worked in campaigns? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #220

Yes, I have worked in numerous campaigns StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #230

I am really curious as wo why defund the police is such a sacred cow to some LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #235

It's not a "sacred cow" to me. I think it's a stupid slogan StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #239

THANK YOU !!! uponit7771 Aug 2021 #71

Hear Hear The Magistrate Aug 2021 #74

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 OMFG people need to stop blaming horrible messaging on the outcries of oppressed uponit7771 Aug 2021 #70

We're not talking about 'anything'. Budi Aug 2021 #101

Then its bad campaigning to allow an opponent to frame the debate with an non issue. There's uponit7771 Aug 2021 #118

The Undefined, open ended Slogan IS the Message Budi Aug 2021 #122

Again, you have no proof DTP was democrats message in 2020. It wasn't and if you're under the uponit7771 Aug 2021 #124

Nope. That is not true at all. Budi Aug 2021 #130

Link and quote the polls that claim DTP was the DEFINING reason we lost. We're "hurt" by anything uponit7771 Aug 2021 #154

Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #208

Again do you ever tire of being wrong LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #209

This statement is so very easy to make into an attack ad that it is sad LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #205

So you're someone who advocates silencing Black women at this time in history. intheflow Aug 2021 #30

I'm for coordinating the message around giving us the Boydog Aug 2021 #36

cause GQP wont demonize that message also ?! REALLY, do you see what they're doing with CRT ?! uponit7771 Aug 2021 #76

I'm someone who advocates winning elections, and criticizing stupid political mantras... brooklynite Aug 2021 #38

Agreed empedocles Aug 2021 #49

If a "mantra" democratic party doesn't ascribe to beats us then its not the mantra's fault its ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #104

So all of the good Democratic candidates who lost in 2020 due to this moronic slogan are bad dems? LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #213

Agreed also. It's about the dumbest, vote losing phrase ever. brush Aug 2021 #123

Am I also "silencing Black women" when I criticize the comments of Nina Turner? brooklynite Aug 2021 #40

as if a member of Congress can be "silenced" treestar Aug 2021 #143

Unreasonable projection. What's being call upon is to stop bad messaging from ALL Democrats... George II Aug 2021 #172

The point is StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #177

Thank you for explaining it more eloquently than I would have. intheflow Aug 2021 #190

Exactly StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #192

But this is not an issue of "silencing Black women", either now or any time in history..... George II Aug 2021 #199

I never said this is an effort to silence Black women StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #206

I luv your voice. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #245

No you don't. Sen Warnock & Rep Clyburn Say NO Cha Aug 2021 #218

Cori Bush represents dems more than MTG represents the GQP ?! REALLY !? WOW !! If that's ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #68

Cori Bush, for one markie Aug 2021 #6

ImWithHer. 99% agreement. oasis Aug 2021 #39

This was awesome, thanks. n/t intheflow Aug 2021 #193

Enough democrats talked about it before the election that it's still a talking point for the right. calguy Aug 2021 #7

Correct. Some Dems just keep the phrase more alive, more attackable. empedocles Aug 2021 #52

"some dems" like 3!? They define the whole party !? and if the party is allowing them to do such ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #66

M$M will make it so treestar Aug 2021 #144

Then folks should direct the complaint at them, not at individuals who aren't even bringing it up StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #146

Our message permeates the M$M correct ?! I mean, come on people we need to focus on the real ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #153

We've lacked this message for 20 years treestar Aug 2021 #195

Run and don't say anything less it be used against us which is bad politicing uponit7771 Aug 2021 #197

Again,, that is not how politics work in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #214

Of course democrats "talked about it" that doesn't mean people agreed with it as policy !! OMG, the uponit7771 Aug 2021 #65

Again, do you ever tire of being wrong-here are some more facts that show that you are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #215

Cori Bush has been on MSNBC more than once, CNN, CBS News, and others and in each appearance.... George II Aug 2021 #170

Do you really believe StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #171

There are many voters who go into campaigns undecided that might, or there are some who.... George II Aug 2021 #178

Anybody that flaky and undecided can't be trusted to base our messaging and outreach on StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #183

Be that as it may, the American voting public is what it is, flaky or not.... George II Aug 2021 #200

Bet you five dollars someone's going to whine about that AOC article being from last year betsuni Aug 2021 #173

The interview on the steps of the Capitol was a day or two ago. George II Aug 2021 #175

Amazing how many politicians really don't know anything about politics Walleye Aug 2021 #2

I don't hear hardly any Democrats saying "Defund the police". Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #3

AOC defends 'defund the police' mantra after Dem losses comradebillyboy Aug 2021 #8

I know there's a few but Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #9

During our special election in May to fill Deb Halland's comradebillyboy Aug 2021 #17

Yes, they try to make AOC the face of the party. But not because of anything she says StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #90

Yes but we ALL get painted with the same brush strokes Boydog Aug 2021 #29

BS StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #44

If there's proof that a message is unpopular Boydog Aug 2021 #246

People express unpopular opinions all the time StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #250

This is false, we have a strong enough message where DTP distraction doesn't matter right ?!?! uponit7771 Aug 2021 #105

Again you are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #216

"November 12, 2020"...old article...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #12

Has she changed her tune? comradebillyboy Aug 2021 #20

I don't k now, but she's a smart woman... Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #22

Well, just last week the broadly interpreted Slogan was again rolled out Budi Aug 2021 #28

AOC represents majority democrats? thx in advance uponit7771 Aug 2021 #57

No, but the Pukes paint her as the face of the Democratic Party. comradebillyboy Aug 2021 #86

So no one speaking about DTP will stop repukes from painting her as the face of the party?! uponit7771 Aug 2021 #89

We are fortunate that the OH11 is showing that left wing twitter does not reflect the party LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #217

I wonder if Turner said she wanted "Defund Cha Aug 2021 #156

Her husband and son are cops. Besides she was too busy comradebillyboy Aug 2021 #182

Oh wow.. this is what James Clyburn had to say when Cha Aug 2021 #184

In case some object to the NY Post, here's another source from earlier last year: George II Aug 2021 #174

But just last week it was a major media statement & even gave the GOP their talking points. Budi Aug 2021 #18

GQP works OPENLY against the constitution and democracy and we give a shit about a slogan ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #62

They can do it because the populist slogan WAS NEVER DEFINED. Budi Aug 2021 #75

Then that's the fault of democratic party messaging and not the outcry of the oppressed. Dems need uponit7771 Aug 2021 #77

No that's the fault of those who repeat the slogan with Zero definition.Don't even lay this bs on... Budi Aug 2021 #88

EMPIRICALLY WRONG !!! Dems who defined themselves on DTP WON in 2020 those who ran and didn't uponit7771 Aug 2021 #95

Bs. DFP was the weapon that Dems had to fight against in critically close seats. Budi Aug 2021 #107

Link and quote any evidence of such, I'm not talking about the words of people we respect ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #110

You Are EMPHATICALLY CORRECT.. TY! Cha Aug 2021 #159

no. it's kinda' the fault stopdiggin Aug 2021 #115

Link and quote dem party LEADERS who "pushed the half backed ... idea"?! Or are you agree with RWTP uponit7771 Aug 2021 #121

DTP was a self inflicted wound stopdiggin Aug 2021 #131

DTP was loudly denounced by dem party leaders especially Biden, come on people stop falling uponit7771 Aug 2021 #155

I trust Whip Clyburn here LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #221

Again it would help if you would work in a real campaign in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #219

Why 'Defund The Police' Attacks Were So Potent Against Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #228

+1, 3 democrats out of 400 isn't "all" the democrats uponit7771 Aug 2021 #55

Thank you Budi Aug 2021 #98

It's Good for her to have "Security" but not for Cha Aug 2021 #160

The lack of firm rebuke from our leadership was part of the problem Amishman Aug 2021 #162

No it wasn't, Dem leadership ... DID ... define the party on the issue. Is everyone listening to ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #163

'slogan of the oppressed'? Amishman Aug 2021 #165

Seriously? StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #167

Means the people who are oppressed came up with it, where do ***YOU*** think DTP came from? uponit7771 Aug 2021 #179

They don't seem to think anyone in America is oppressed ... StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #188

That is not how campaigns work in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #222

What we need is better framing. CrispyQ Aug 2021 #10

I agree Deuxcents Aug 2021 #16

That is very unclear treestar Aug 2021 #145

Yeah, the media works against us, so we should work harder to counter their message, but we don't. CrispyQ Aug 2021 #150

Then what do we do treestar Aug 2021 #194

This message was self-deleted by its author Deuxcents Aug 2021 #13

Who is talking about "defund the police" ... other than a few people who will be lightning rods StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #15

A few lawmakers are ripcord Aug 2021 #21

Who? StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #23

+10000 Bettie Aug 2021 #106

"That's an excuse and a diversion." 👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾 THIS!! Dems have weak assed messages that don't ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #114

GOP thanks Democratic congresswoman for 'defund the police' message LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #224

Oh, NO! Not the ADS!!! Well, then, I guess we're just doomed, aren't we? StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #231

Just tell the Republican noise machines to fuck off. hunter Aug 2021 #25

You are totally missing the point. The defunding the police Boydog Aug 2021 #33

That's totally my point. hunter Aug 2021 #45

Before we can do the work of the Dems Boydog Aug 2021 #51

If a candidate somewhere in middle America loses their race because Cori Bush answered a question StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #56

With the changes in voting laws we are facing enough of a challenge. Boydog Aug 2021 #78

I personally don't have a lot of respect for the police... hunter Aug 2021 #63

"Republicans just make noise and stupid people listen" StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #92

Cori Bush talking about Defund the Police does not make every other Democrat look like an anarchist StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #47

Rep. Clyburn, given much credit for electing Biden President, has tried to empedocles Aug 2021 #58

I disagree with him about this. StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #64

Biden did not use DF police at all. Still hasn't touched. Biden won the WH. empedocles Aug 2021 #67

So obviously, other Dems using the term does not necessarily hurt all other Dems StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #83

No it didn't, there's no polling proof DTP was a ***DECIDING*** factor in split districts in 20 uponit7771 Aug 2021 #128

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2021 #84

I lulzd KG Aug 2021 #32

Dems oppose DTP completely and need to say so in proportion to Republican lies against us gulliver Aug 2021 #35

... or getting a message that overrides any negative affects from the outcries of the oppressed?! uponit7771 Aug 2021 #87

Say what? aocommunalpunch Aug 2021 #37

They are playing into the hands of Republicans Boydog Aug 2021 #41

No. The people who accept the right wing Republican frame and tone police StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #53

+1, only 64% of democrats think voter suppression is a major issue (link) because democratic ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #81

LMAO aocommunalpunch Aug 2021 #69

To be more precise, they're helping republicans. brush Aug 2021 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2021 #43

It's a dumb slogan that is getting much more oxygen and exposure because Dems keep making a big deal StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #54

republicons make it a much bigger deal. empedocles Aug 2021 #60

but dem messages permeates their distraction right !? Right ?! uponit7771 Aug 2021 #117

EXACTLY !!! A line in the 2nd post mortem report say nearly same thing word for word ... uponit7771 Aug 2021 #99

We lost a number of races in 2020 that we should had won LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #238

I call BS on this StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #240

That is your uninformed opinion. I trust the exit and other polling and the DNC autopsy LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #241

Exclusive poll finds Detroit residents far more worried about public safety than police reform brooklynite Aug 2021 #48

So there shouldn't be police reform then? Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #102

Perhaps POC should be allowed to decide what they want? brooklynite Aug 2021 #132

KCMO. That's what has got a lot of people going here. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2021 #59

I'm trying to understand how you think you will accomplish Bettie Aug 2021 #73

I agree. Even though we can't stop every idiot from uttering the phrase... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #79

How is the outcry of the oppressed overriding dem message against GQP treason? tia uponit7771 Aug 2021 #82

Lulz. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #91

Reality makes some people do just this uponit7771 Aug 2021 #96

No. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #97

Just overheard, I think it was Malcolm Nance on a Maher HBO repeat show, say, empedocles Aug 2021 #85

I enjoy reading his thoughts and hearing him speak. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #93

Not too long ago I had a Trumper ask me if I was was worried about Democrats defunding GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #100

Out of curiosity: does the Black Lives Matter talk need to stop too? David__77 Aug 2021 #103

don't be absurd stopdiggin Aug 2021 #126

Defund the Police... tonedevil Aug 2021 #134

you can talk budget all you want stopdiggin Aug 2021 #142

Police budgets are bursting at the seams... tonedevil Aug 2021 #149

Not really the military weaponry eating up the budget. EX500rider Aug 2021 #152

If it could be the ones... tonedevil Aug 2021 #233

like I said - talk budget all you want stopdiggin Aug 2021 #201

OK tonedevil Aug 2021 #232

"It is the military weaponry used to herd protesters that swell their coffers." Jedi Guy Aug 2021 #203

Thank you. Thought that was the case but couldn't remember the name of the program. betsuni Aug 2021 #211

Some people here have made that argument. StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #137

Tell the people actually spreading it, and see how that goes JHB Aug 2021 #108

They're not the only ones spreading it StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #113

I think this "Defund the Police" label was successfully attached to us a long time ago. Calista241 Aug 2021 #109

Agree for the most part. It was launched by the Dem left, who, with a lot of rw help, empedocles Aug 2021 #112

No it was not "launched by dem left" that's another RWTP straight from FAUX news itself uponit7771 Aug 2021 #127

Who launched it, and who are still using it? George II Aug 2021 #191

Protesters and protesters along with those who represent them uponit7771 Aug 2021 #198

WTF ?! DTP will cost us more than voter denial and nullification ?! ... shit, no wonder only 64% uponit7771 Aug 2021 #116

Again, you are still wrong. Here is some polling that shows that you wrong LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #227

I totally agree. With that catchy, little phrase we've gifted the GOP with a meme to take Vinca Aug 2021 #111

The people who think Democrats must forever play defense are bad at politics Sympthsical Aug 2021 #119

***THREAD WINNER !!!*** uponit7771 Aug 2021 #125

+1 leftstreet Aug 2021 #133

Thak you. /nt tonedevil Aug 2021 #135

Thank you!!! StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #139

Post removed Post removed Aug 2021 #140

THANK you!!! StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #147

Agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 #141

If Democrats stopped insisting that people stop talking about DTP, that would substantially reduce StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #148

Can we add gun bans to the verboten list? SYFROYH Aug 2021 #151

Let's ban every Democratic politician in America from.ever saying anything the GOP can use against StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #157

FACT CHECK: Reverend Warnock Does Not Support Defunding The Police, Cha Aug 2021 #158

+++ JohnSJ Aug 2021 #223

It has, for the most part. The media effect is keeping it alive. Politicub Aug 2021 #161

"I was going to vote for the Democratic candidate ... StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #164

I love your post so much. Politicub Aug 2021 #168

"I wasn't sure who to vote for....." brooklynite Aug 2021 #237

I don't think that's fair, Politicub Cha Aug 2021 #180

I appreciate your opinion, and don't disagree. Politicub Aug 2021 #187

Aww.. Mahalo for your sweet response.. Cha Aug 2021 #189

No actual Democratic politicians are talking about it are they? Some populist outliers ... Hekate Aug 2021 #169

Ever notice StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #176

Sinema & Manchin are quite unpopular here at DU, so all the time, really Hekate Aug 2021 #185

They're unpopular, but can you point to instances where they're told to stop talking StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #186

Sinema and Manchin. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #196

+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #212

Rt TY for that tweet.. from JDWATCH! Cha Aug 2021 #225

This. nt PunkinPi Aug 2021 #249

What progressives' chances are being hurt? brooklynite Aug 2021 #236

Exactly StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #242

Rep Clyburn Warned Sloganeering such as calls to DTP is.. Cha Aug 2021 #181

GOP thanks Democratic congresswoman for 'defund the police' message LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #229

Fuck that noise. MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #247

+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #248

I'm a solid and liberal dem for years and that phrase WILL KILL US AT SOME POINT Captain Zero Aug 2021 #251