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viva la

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55. We've seen this before-- with AIDS-- these "crank" treatments crowd out the effective
Sun Aug 29, 2021, 04:38 PM
Aug 2021

Those taking Ivermectin are probably not getting vaccinated. If they're taking it as a "preventive," they will feel little need to get a real preventive-- the vaccine. They probably think, "If I get sick, I'll just take more Ivermectin." Why bother to wear a mask, right?

They will be listening not to the doctors and scientists and public health officials, who know as much as there is currently to know about what works, but to the likes of Milo Yiannopoulus and Tucker Carlson who -- for their own perverse and usually commercial reasons-- are suggesting this as an alternative to what actually works.

This drug might be "safe" in the sense that the risks are acceptable to get the results the drug is meant to cause-- a way of getting rid of and preventing the parasites that cause river blindness and other parasitical diseases (which are quite rare in the developed world, and have nothing to do with a virus). But the drug does have side effects, and those are increased of course when the drug is not prescribed and monitored by a doctor, and are in fact self-administered without regard to the proper dose or mode.
So we see the execrable Milo Y supposedly injecting a dose of the drug meant for pigs.
(Now I very much doubt he actually injected it. The photos I saw showed the needle, then his arm with a dot of blood-- not the needle sticking out of the arm, LOL. He's likely just pretending for whatever weird reason these rightwing showmen do their weird things.)

This Oxford study might have the benefit of encouraging the gullible to wait and hear the evidence (Which will probably be-- as the studies so far have shown-- no results worth the risk).

But if it gives them another hope in hell that they can avoid the twin terrible dangers they are so terrified of-- vax and mask-- well, that's not a good thing.

Both of those are not only safe, but also do (within limits) what we hope they will do-- prevent most infection and transmission (especially in combination).

They're not some wild guess like, you know, Clorox kills germs on my kitchen counters, so it'll probably cure Covid.

Unclear why you are posting this here and now LearnedHand Aug 2021 #1
Thanks for this. I hope the OP author replies. nt LAS14 Aug 2021 #2
pubmed is my trusted source. multigraincracker Aug 2021 #3
I Was On A Jury For This, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2021 #5
I agree janterry Aug 2021 #9
That's how science works... Hugin Aug 2021 #10
I agree, which is why I didn't alert on the post LearnedHand Aug 2021 #16
Have you researched online how many countries in the world are using Ivermectin? womanofthehills Aug 2021 #20
Uh, I wasn't talking about its anti-parasitic use LearnedHand Aug 2021 #25
The poster you are replying to is against vaccines obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #59
Have you researched the difference between parasites and viruses? Xoan Aug 2021 #30
So what? It works on an intestinal parasite. Does it blast viruses out of noses? pnwmom Aug 2021 #39
They should first try... the vaccine. viva la Aug 2021 #61
Of course. But they would rather trust a pill or paste approved by the FDA for de-worming, pnwmom Aug 2021 #62
I felt as well Yonnie3 Aug 2021 #52
It's news, Oxford is well respected, ivermectin needs to be definitively shot down and buried Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #6
Well, that would be useful-- definitively saying, "it's useless" viva la Aug 2021 #21
did you review all of the data? janterry Aug 2021 #7
thanks to you and bernardo for your comments MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #11
Oxford University started a clinical trial in June 2021 MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #13
Your link and the OP's link don't necessarily contradict each other ecstatic Aug 2021 #48
Check their posting history obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #57
You can't shit the covid out.... Beachnutt Aug 2021 #4
Well, I guess you can ... LearnedHand Aug 2021 #17
But it's also growing in the nose, and no amount of shitting will shit it out the nostrils. n/t pnwmom Aug 2021 #43
I'm so pwned LearnedHand Aug 2021 #45
. . . pnwmom Aug 2021 #60
Going to be a rush on feed stores. gab13by13 Aug 2021 #8
There is Ivermectin for people and Ivermectin for animsls womanofthehills Aug 2021 #26
The ones I see on Facebook groups for the drug-- viva la Aug 2021 #66
Maybe it'll prove helpful...maybe not BGBD Aug 2021 #12
4 BILLION people world wide have take the HUMAN dose womanofthehills Aug 2021 #27
They take it for parasites in the intestines and on the skin, not viruses in the NOSE pnwmom Aug 2021 #44
Taken it, to treat parasites NickB79 Aug 2021 #46
You can also get penicillin in the pharmacies in Mexico. viva la Aug 2021 #64
What? There's something about this that smells very fishy. ananda Aug 2021 #14
It's actually very cheap... AkFemDem Aug 2021 #37
I'm talking about the money/politics behind the study. ananda Aug 2021 #42
Previous PRINCIPLE trial results Klaralven Aug 2021 #15
very interesting MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #19
Maybe because in a pandemic with thousands dying, putting money and research scientists on this viva la Aug 2021 #65
I wonder how they can get subjects for the trial. viva la Aug 2021 #18
Not true - IVM is listed as a very SAFE drug womanofthehills Aug 2021 #31
Please clarify what you are arguing in favor of LearnedHand Aug 2021 #35
We've seen this before-- with AIDS-- these "crank" treatments crowd out the effective viva la Aug 2021 #55
It's all about dosage. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #36
Great drug for parasites. viva la Aug 2021 #54
Don't know about the UK but in the US the standard of care for outpatients is "go home, feel better" Klaralven Aug 2021 #32
The participants are symptomatic, with a positive Covid test muriel_volestrangler Aug 2021 #67
Next up: Antibiotics as a cancer treatment. BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #22
The TOGETHER Trial ended badly for ivermectin NickB79 Aug 2021 #23
So why are so many countries in the world using it? womanofthehills Aug 2021 #34
Because they're a) desperate and b) often run by mini-Trumps NickB79 Aug 2021 #38
My PCP is Russian and first trained there. viva la Aug 2021 #63
Because of a severely flawed study and a preprint which didn't stand up to peer review. herding cats Aug 2021 #49
Good. It's best we get a study to determine if this works or not Arazi Aug 2021 #24
IIRC, Disaffected Aug 2021 #29
The single study showing INVITRO effectivenss was withdrawn by the authors after accusations of hlthe2b Aug 2021 #28
You know what they say about efficacy in petri dishes NickB79 Aug 2021 #47
Perfect cartoon, thanks! hlthe2b Aug 2021 #50
I'm sorry what blanket statement am I making? MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #51
I said the OP, which in this case is coming from the posted article: hlthe2b Aug 2021 #53
I hope you understand that most liberals would love it ... dawg Aug 2021 #33
covid19 is the weirdest virus. It responds/yields to a lot of random drugs ecstatic Aug 2021 #40
Great!!! AkFemDem Aug 2021 #41
In other words, the conspiracy theory that it's being "suppressed" is a lie Azathoth Aug 2021 #56
I think I heard sodium oxide will kill COVID in a petri dish struggle4progress Aug 2021 #58
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