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BlueCheeseAgain

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9. Agreed.

Tue Nov 2, 2021, 11:52 PM

Nov 2021

It took a bunch of sensible, popular, ideas, and gave them a name that would cause the great majority of people to recoil.

And then we had a bunch of people saying, "defund really means reform", and another bunch of people saying, "defund means defund".

If we had let Republicans choose the description, they couldn't have come up with one that was more harmful to Democrats.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Initech Nov 2021 OP

make the union pay for the lawsuits over police misconduct nt msongs Nov 2021 #1

Sounds good. But keep in mind when one union is required to do this jimfields33 Nov 2021 #10

it was qazplm135 Nov 2021 #2

I'm sure Fox News was behind that or some Facebook propaganda arm. Initech Nov 2021 #3

No qazplm135 Nov 2021 #6

Yeah I remember that now. Initech Nov 2021 #8

How do you know? live love laugh Nov 2021 #17

seriously? qazplm135 Nov 2021 #22

I have ears too. That does not answer the question. live love laugh Nov 2021 #57

OK qazplm135 Nov 2021 #63

YES Grasswire2 Nov 2021 #26

Who ran their race on this platform/ message? live love laugh Nov 2021 #15

the republicans qazplm135 Nov 2021 #21

Which Republicans? live love laugh Nov 2021 #55

wow qazplm135 Nov 2021 #60

The Pubs, as a very effective counter punch against two years of poor messaging on our side Amishman Nov 2021 #41

You didn't answer the question and your generalizations are all the over the place. live love laugh Nov 2021 #56

why would we spend our time here qazplm135 Nov 2021 #61

Critical Race Theory is not messaging. Ms. Toad Nov 2021 #58

You can't eliminate idiots from the equation, so BootinUp Nov 2021 #4

No argument here In It to Win It Nov 2021 #5

BLM activists don't hire consulting firms or ad agencies pstokely Nov 2021 #7

They raised $90 million last year MichMan Nov 2021 #20

It's not rocket science that would be a destructive message. RandomNumbers Nov 2021 #44

Agreed. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2021 #9

I think so.. I mentioned Cha Nov 2021 #11

Also.. the Senate voted UNANIMOUSLY against defunding the police... Cha Nov 2021 #12

2. Take away their weapons of war. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #13

From what I understand... LiberatedUSA Nov 2021 #49

It varies a bit from agency to agency. A podunk sheriff's department will differ from NYPD. Jedi Guy Nov 2021 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 2021 #14

James Clyburn agrees. BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #16

It was a clumsy phrase that the right, and moderates, didn't understand. Poor messaging. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #18

***DEMOCRATS DID NOT COME UP WITH OR COMMIT TO DEFUND THE POLICE*** People pushing uponit7771 Nov 2021 #19

Thank you. Nobody ran on this shit except Solomon Nov 2021 #35

+1, facts are being ignored for right wing talking points on DU ... smdh uponit7771 Nov 2021 #42

And the media chose to amplify the right wing message Bettie Nov 2021 #53

U.S. fascist media amped that up. If it wasn't that it would be something else. hunter Nov 2021 #23

If there was only one African American... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #24

I was FURIOUS with it. n/t CousinIT Nov 2021 #25

Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #27

Can we agree that avoiding actual policy discussions is ruining our country? unblock Nov 2021 #28

This. 👆 Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #29

Are you trying to tell me that drinking beer won't make me unblock Nov 2021 #30

If you're drunk enough, all women might look that way. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2021 #31

White activists jumped in on "defund" with both feet Recursion Nov 2021 #32

In some circles, white liberals pushed "defund" because "abolish" was too scary. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #40

It was never part of mainstream Democratic messaging. Crunchy Frog Nov 2021 #33

Defund them WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #34

yeah, that's the trouble w reform. it's a hoary old trope, and it aint gonna work. mopinko Nov 2021 #46

I agree WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #47

There needs to be a database to track bad cops. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #36

There is one. Nobody uses it, though. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #39

KCMO that went over l8ke a lead balloon here. nt leftyladyfrommo Nov 2021 #37

150 years of reform is what killed George Floyd. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #38

Called it wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #43

The one candidate in the country who actually ran on "defund the police" won. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #45

So it's a winning message? MichMan Nov 2021 #48

It wasn't in Seattle yesterday FrankBooth Nov 2021 #50

It was a terribly phrased slogan, I will give you that. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2021 #51

That one has been adopted by anti-vaxxers which is just beyond stupid. Initech Nov 2021 #52

Can we all agree that some rando said that thing and the GOP ran with it? Kinda like CRT? Hekate Nov 2021 #59

Yes it should have been "Reform" from the beginning but emotions got in the way budkin Nov 2021 #62

Don't even message about reforming the police. gulliver Nov 2021 #64