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In reply to the discussion: After JFK assassination, President Truman put his concerns about CIA in print. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(18,404 posts)23. I was there when Talbot first spoke in public about that book.
He was speaking at the Passing the Torch conference at Duquesne University in October 2013. While the agency, per se, was not involved, Talbot named former Director Dulles as the Chairman of the Board of the assassination. He then proceeded to explain how.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10024105197
Heres an excerpt of his thoughts on the subject:
The Devils Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of the American Secret Government
DAVID TALBOT
Who What Why, 07/26/17
Excerpt
It was Dulles himself who jumped in to put out the Truman fire. Soon after the Post published Trumans diatribe, Dulles began a campaign to get the retired president to disavow his opinion piece. The spymaster began by enlisting the help of Washington power attorney Clark Clifford, the former Truman counselor who chaired President Johnsons intelligence advisory board. The CIA was really HSTs baby or at least his adopted child, Dulles pointed out in a letter to Clifford. Perhaps the attorney could talk some sense into the tough old bird and get him to retract his harsh criticisms of the agency.
Dulles also appealed directly to Truman in a strongly worded letter, telling the former president that he was deeply disturbed by his article. In the eight-page letter that he mailed on January 7, 1964, Dulles tried to implicate Truman himself. Calling Truman the father of our modern intelligence system, Dulles reminded him that it was you, through National Security Council action, [who] approved the organization in CIA of a new office to carry out covert operations. So, Dulles continued, Trumans ill-advised rant in the Post amounted to a repudiation of a policy that the former president himself had the great courage and wisdom to initiate.
To an extent, Dulles had a point. As the spymaster pointed out, the Truman Doctrine had indeed authorized an aggressive strategy aimed at thwarting Communist advances in Western Europe, including CIA intervention in the 1948 Italian elections. But Truman was correct in charging that, under Eisenhower, Dulles had led the CIA much deeper into skulduggery than he ever envisioned.
Unmoved by Dulless letter, Truman stood by his article. Realizing the threat that Truman posed, Dulles continued his crusade to discredit the Post essay well into the following year. Confident of his powers of persuasion, the spymaster made a personal trek to Independence, Missouri, in April, arranging to meet face-to-face with Truman at his presidential library. After exchanging a few minutes of small talk about the old days, Dulles mounted his assault on Truman, employing his usual mix of sweet talk and arm-twisting. But Truman even on the brink of turning eighty was no pushover, and Dulless efforts proved fruitless.
Still, Dulles would not accept defeat. Unable to alter reality, he simply altered the record, like any good spy. On April 21, 1964, upon returning to Washington, Dulles wrote a letter about his half-hour meeting with Truman to CIA general counsel Lawrence Houston. During their conversation at the Truman Library, Dulles claimed in his letter, the elderly ex-president seemed quite astounded by his own attack on the CIA when the spymaster showed him a copy of the Post article. As he looked it over, Truman reacted as if he were reading it for the first time, according to Dulles. He said that [the article] was all wrong. He then said that he felt it had made a very unfortunate impression.
The Truman portrayed in Dulless letter seemed to be suffering from senility and either could not remember what he had written or had been taken advantage of by an aide, who perhaps wrote the piece under the former presidents name. In fact, CIA officials later did try to blame a Truman assistant for writing the provocative opinion piece. Truman obviously was highly disturbed at the Washington Post article, concluded Dulles in his letter, and several times said he would see what he could do about it.
The Dulles letter to Houston which was clearly intended for the CIA files, to be retrieved whenever expedient was an outrageous piece of disinformation. Truman, who would live for eight more years, was still of sound mind in April 1964. And he could not have been shocked by the contents of his own article, since he had been expressing the same views about the CIA even more strongly to friends and journalists for some time.
After the Bay of Pigs, Truman had confided in writer Merle Miller that he regretted ever establishing the CIA. I think it was a mistake, he said. And if Id known what was going to happen, I never would have done it . [Eisenhower] never paid any attention to it, and it got out of hand . Its become a government all of its own and all secret . Thats a very dangerous thing in a democratic society. Likewise, after the Washington Post essay ran, Trumans original CIA director, Admiral Sidney Souers who shared his former bosss limited concept of the agency congratulated him for writing the piece. I am happy as I can be that my article on the Central Intelligence Agency rang a bell with you because you know why the organization was set up, Truman wrote back to Souers.
Continues
https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/devils-chessboard-allen-dulles-cia-rise-american-secret-government/
Thanks for caring, LymphocyteLover.
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After JFK assassination, President Truman put his concerns about CIA in print. [View all]
Kid Berwyn
Nov 2021
OP
I certainly worry about all the intelligence agencies with the secret budgets
captain queeg
Nov 2021
#1
insofar as there was a plot beyond Oswald, it was probably some combination of both
Volaris
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#13
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jalan48
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#21
Seven months before Oswald killed JFK he shot at, and missed, General Edwin Walker.
Saboburns
Nov 2021
#17
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ancianita
Nov 2021
#10
Thanks! Yes, indeed, we have to keep our fascist Nazi war connection in mind as we deal with
ancianita
Nov 2021
#40
"Dulles had even less respect for Jack Kennedy's authority than he did for FDR's."
Kid Berwyn
Nov 2021
#32