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In reply to the discussion: The Squad was right to vote against infrastructure bill Part 2: Manchin snubs constituents [View all]wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)123. All I know is that there was a plan to pass BBB by Christmas
Now it's gone poof.
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The Squad was right to vote against infrastructure bill Part 2: Manchin snubs constituents [View all]
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
OP
That's from more than a month ago. This is current - "Read it. Learn it. Live it.".....
George II
Dec 2021
#90
I would not read that anti-Democratic Party rag...cancelled my subscription in fact.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#178
If you do not like Senator Manchin then help elect more Democratic Senators
LetMyPeopleVote
Dec 2021
#258
It's a disrespectful nickname for two Democratic Senators and a malicious caricature.
George II
Dec 2021
#208
I'm sorry. I'll PM you first before I respond to make sure it's an appropriate response.
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2021
#209
It's just curious that in such a long discussion you skipped almost down to the bottom to address...
George II
Dec 2021
#211
"Observable facts" are subjective, particularly if one isn't directly involved in the conversation..
George II
Dec 2021
#223
There have been plans to pass it all year. Plans often don't work out. Gone, poof.
betsuni
Dec 2021
#144
You said, "Some roads will be fixed, but not all" so yes, you think coming to the middle is
betsuni
Dec 2021
#237
There was a hope it would pass by Christmas. Welcome to Congressional politics.
George II
Dec 2021
#198
Correct. ALL Democrats should support and vote for ALL Democratic bills. Seems you selectively...
George II
Dec 2021
#202
In trudging thru this thread I figured out that somebody did not get their sparkle-pony....
Hekate
Dec 2021
#253
Please...it takes time and patience to pass that bill...why don't you ask both sides to
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#179
No it didn't. The foot dragging on infrastructure, Afghanistan (where even Democrats castigated
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#177
+1, with poor messaging mechanics we're not going to get the positive word out like we should and
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#30
No, we need to execute on all cylinders we're missing one with message mechanics
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#65
The same as if we passed it without good message mechanics; pretty much BAU, ....
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#74
Promising a Christmas deadline, then punting, is not good message discipline
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#79
Are you applauding that? You think poll numbers are based on one single bill?
George II
Dec 2021
#194
According to 538, Biden's aggregates only inched up about a point from November's low
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#200
There is good stuff in the infrastructure bill. As for the midterms, we have a better chance with
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#176
And probably cost us Virginia, suggesting the inability of Democrats to govern
question everything
Dec 2021
#3
And the Progressive House members could have voted for infrastructure in September instead
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#180
Bif is a prime example of using public money to build infrastructure
questionseverything
Dec 2021
#29
'Know when to hold and know when to fold': Progressives accept limits of their power
LetMyPeopleVote
Dec 2021
#8
The myth that getting the whole pie is the only righteous thing to do and that rejecting half the
betsuni
Dec 2021
#27
What people? Biden: "My team and I are having ongoing discussions with Senator Manchin;
betsuni
Dec 2021
#39
Targeted at constituents to pressure Manchin and Sinema to vote for it? But they ignore constituents
betsuni
Dec 2021
#164
No evidence an ad made a difference. The effort to get Manchin to support the rescue plan
betsuni
Dec 2021
#172
That is the problem, you never get everything...and the more you 'play', the less likely it is
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#181
This is my favorite. The "Yer racist, you wealthy white centrist/moderates, same as Republicans"
betsuni
Dec 2021
#187
That happened frequently with me last August. I was repeatedly accused of not supporting....
George II
Dec 2021
#196
Dem agenda is failing PoC, only thing they passed is white man's jobs bill ie BIF.
radius777
Dec 2021
#247
Are you serious? You're now introducing race into a vigorous political debate here? Has....
George II
Dec 2021
#195
Okay, using your logic would it make sense to say "Dems who don't like the BIF need to question....
George II
Dec 2021
#252
It is, and that member has engaged with that derogatory nonsense throughout the thread.
TexasTowelie
Dec 2021
#220
And there in lies the problem...'the other side'...we should all be on the same side...what is
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#182
Progressives are part of our party and yes we expect that they will support Democrats.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#183
A number of them voted against infrastructure...I don't consider that loyal...
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#184
Apparently this is more acceptable than an epithet that rhymes with "Trader Joe's"
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#61
If they are truly outcasts, Democrats would tell Manchinema to take it or leave it
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#76
Krysten Sinema is to the left of two squad members who voted against the President's bill.
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#266
Ok, what's "Manchinema"? Is that intended to be a disrespectful nickname for someone?
George II
Dec 2021
#49
In other words it's a disrespectful nickname for a Democrat or two. We get it.
George II
Dec 2021
#53
Yep. Its disappointing when civil discourse deteriorates to name calling and insults.
George II
Dec 2021
#188
I respect Democrats, even those I might disagree with. It's as disrespectful as when republicans....
George II
Dec 2021
#77
According to projects.fivethirtyeight.com, both Manchin and Sinema support Biden's agenda, too....
George II
Dec 2021
#95
Manchin is one of the original co-sponsors of Sen. Klobuchar's Freedom to Vote Act.
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#265
So you're telling us that six Democrats are more clairvoyant than 215 other Democrats?
George II
Dec 2021
#52
And you know that how? I don't understand how a vote in the House would have anything to do....
George II
Dec 2021
#57
If you have to explain why you voted a certain way on a bill, then you've already lost.
TexasTowelie
Dec 2021
#94
A legislator's job is not to play to a twitter "audience". It's to represent constituents.
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#262
That "small fraction" is a characterization - it's $10.6 BILLION. Two NYC Representatives....
George II
Dec 2021
#138
No we didn't. The bill was worth $1.2 TRILLION, not $10 billion. It's not complicated, in fact....
George II
Dec 2021
#204
Representatives who voted Nay were willing to settle for zero. There were 206 total who voted Nay...
George II
Dec 2021
#206
I'm not "sport", you like to play fast and loose with your offensive nicknames....
George II
Dec 2021
#212
What's the point? All Senators walk around the floor and mingle, Democrats w/ republicans....
George II
Dec 2021
#107
Doesn't the OP claim that leaving trillions on the table is a good look if The Squad does it?
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#268
People losing the expanded child tax credit is going to be devastating
questionseverything
Dec 2021
#159
It is s start...none would have been fixed had we not passed infrastructure.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#185
If not all roads will be fixed, give up, do not fight. Nothing is better than something.
betsuni
Dec 2021
#186
No, they were not correct. Had they won that vote, we would have two bills going nowhere.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#174