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In reply to the discussion: The Squad was right to vote against infrastructure bill Part 2: Manchin snubs constituents [View all]radius777
(3,635 posts)158. The Squad are disliked for the same reason Rosa Parks
was told to sit at the back of the bus, ie 'know your place.'
Manchinema are excused and coddled because they are white moderates, thus viewed as real Americans.
"I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice." - Martin Luther King
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The Squad was right to vote against infrastructure bill Part 2: Manchin snubs constituents [View all]
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
OP
That's from more than a month ago. This is current - "Read it. Learn it. Live it.".....
George II
Dec 2021
#90
I would not read that anti-Democratic Party rag...cancelled my subscription in fact.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#178
If you do not like Senator Manchin then help elect more Democratic Senators
LetMyPeopleVote
Dec 2021
#258
It's a disrespectful nickname for two Democratic Senators and a malicious caricature.
George II
Dec 2021
#208
I'm sorry. I'll PM you first before I respond to make sure it's an appropriate response.
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2021
#209
It's just curious that in such a long discussion you skipped almost down to the bottom to address...
George II
Dec 2021
#211
"Observable facts" are subjective, particularly if one isn't directly involved in the conversation..
George II
Dec 2021
#223
There have been plans to pass it all year. Plans often don't work out. Gone, poof.
betsuni
Dec 2021
#144
You said, "Some roads will be fixed, but not all" so yes, you think coming to the middle is
betsuni
Dec 2021
#237
There was a hope it would pass by Christmas. Welcome to Congressional politics.
George II
Dec 2021
#198
Correct. ALL Democrats should support and vote for ALL Democratic bills. Seems you selectively...
George II
Dec 2021
#202
In trudging thru this thread I figured out that somebody did not get their sparkle-pony....
Hekate
Dec 2021
#253
Please...it takes time and patience to pass that bill...why don't you ask both sides to
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#179
No it didn't. The foot dragging on infrastructure, Afghanistan (where even Democrats castigated
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#177
+1, with poor messaging mechanics we're not going to get the positive word out like we should and
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#30
No, we need to execute on all cylinders we're missing one with message mechanics
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#65
The same as if we passed it without good message mechanics; pretty much BAU, ....
uponit7771
Dec 2021
#74
Promising a Christmas deadline, then punting, is not good message discipline
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#79
Are you applauding that? You think poll numbers are based on one single bill?
George II
Dec 2021
#194
According to 538, Biden's aggregates only inched up about a point from November's low
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#200
There is good stuff in the infrastructure bill. As for the midterms, we have a better chance with
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#176
And probably cost us Virginia, suggesting the inability of Democrats to govern
question everything
Dec 2021
#3
And the Progressive House members could have voted for infrastructure in September instead
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#180
Bif is a prime example of using public money to build infrastructure
questionseverything
Dec 2021
#29
'Know when to hold and know when to fold': Progressives accept limits of their power
LetMyPeopleVote
Dec 2021
#8
The myth that getting the whole pie is the only righteous thing to do and that rejecting half the
betsuni
Dec 2021
#27
What people? Biden: "My team and I are having ongoing discussions with Senator Manchin;
betsuni
Dec 2021
#39
Targeted at constituents to pressure Manchin and Sinema to vote for it? But they ignore constituents
betsuni
Dec 2021
#164
No evidence an ad made a difference. The effort to get Manchin to support the rescue plan
betsuni
Dec 2021
#172
That is the problem, you never get everything...and the more you 'play', the less likely it is
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#181
This is my favorite. The "Yer racist, you wealthy white centrist/moderates, same as Republicans"
betsuni
Dec 2021
#187
That happened frequently with me last August. I was repeatedly accused of not supporting....
George II
Dec 2021
#196
Dem agenda is failing PoC, only thing they passed is white man's jobs bill ie BIF.
radius777
Dec 2021
#247
Are you serious? You're now introducing race into a vigorous political debate here? Has....
George II
Dec 2021
#195
Okay, using your logic would it make sense to say "Dems who don't like the BIF need to question....
George II
Dec 2021
#252
It is, and that member has engaged with that derogatory nonsense throughout the thread.
TexasTowelie
Dec 2021
#220
And there in lies the problem...'the other side'...we should all be on the same side...what is
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#182
Progressives are part of our party and yes we expect that they will support Democrats.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#183
A number of them voted against infrastructure...I don't consider that loyal...
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#184
Apparently this is more acceptable than an epithet that rhymes with "Trader Joe's"
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#61
If they are truly outcasts, Democrats would tell Manchinema to take it or leave it
wellst0nev0ter
Dec 2021
#76
Krysten Sinema is to the left of two squad members who voted against the President's bill.
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#266
Ok, what's "Manchinema"? Is that intended to be a disrespectful nickname for someone?
George II
Dec 2021
#49
In other words it's a disrespectful nickname for a Democrat or two. We get it.
George II
Dec 2021
#53
Yep. Its disappointing when civil discourse deteriorates to name calling and insults.
George II
Dec 2021
#188
I respect Democrats, even those I might disagree with. It's as disrespectful as when republicans....
George II
Dec 2021
#77
According to projects.fivethirtyeight.com, both Manchin and Sinema support Biden's agenda, too....
George II
Dec 2021
#95
Manchin is one of the original co-sponsors of Sen. Klobuchar's Freedom to Vote Act.
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#265
So you're telling us that six Democrats are more clairvoyant than 215 other Democrats?
George II
Dec 2021
#52
And you know that how? I don't understand how a vote in the House would have anything to do....
George II
Dec 2021
#57
If you have to explain why you voted a certain way on a bill, then you've already lost.
TexasTowelie
Dec 2021
#94
A legislator's job is not to play to a twitter "audience". It's to represent constituents.
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#262
That "small fraction" is a characterization - it's $10.6 BILLION. Two NYC Representatives....
George II
Dec 2021
#138
No we didn't. The bill was worth $1.2 TRILLION, not $10 billion. It's not complicated, in fact....
George II
Dec 2021
#204
Representatives who voted Nay were willing to settle for zero. There were 206 total who voted Nay...
George II
Dec 2021
#206
I'm not "sport", you like to play fast and loose with your offensive nicknames....
George II
Dec 2021
#212
What's the point? All Senators walk around the floor and mingle, Democrats w/ republicans....
George II
Dec 2021
#107
Doesn't the OP claim that leaving trillions on the table is a good look if The Squad does it?
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#268
People losing the expanded child tax credit is going to be devastating
questionseverything
Dec 2021
#159
It is s start...none would have been fixed had we not passed infrastructure.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#185
If not all roads will be fixed, give up, do not fight. Nothing is better than something.
betsuni
Dec 2021
#186
No, they were not correct. Had they won that vote, we would have two bills going nowhere.
Demsrule86
Dec 2021
#174