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gulliver

(13,180 posts)
29. "What weakness in liberalism are its enemies exploiting?"
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 02:46 PM
Feb 2022

Just asking the question is a great service to liberalism. Every liberal should be asking that same question of themselves as a mantra. I like the article a lot, and I always tend to learn from Brooks. I think he might have taken the scenic route in response to the question. That and subject-verb disagreement are my main quibbles.

There is no reason our ideas shouldn't plain dominate if we go by the quality of the ideas themselves. Equality, opportunity, sustainability, justice...no problem. Our problem is mainly an image problem. If one person says, for example, "defund the police" or "tear down that Lincoln statue," all of the rest of us liberals pay for that foolishness. The media hand the mic to anyone. It's their paycheck.

I don't know how to solve the problem of "self-elected, Dunning Krueger effect voices" getting handed mics. Maybe we can firewall the Democratic Party from fools if not all of liberalism. The Democratic Party, unlike liberalism, has an official institution, the DNC. If some self-elected rhetorical maladroit says something dumb and a meme takes off, perhaps DNC arbitration boards can check the statement against the current platform. That would result in an immediate, authoritative response.

For example, someone says, "defund the police." The DNC arbitration board system could very quickly check the platform and note that the platform doesn't in any way support that idea. Biden, Pelosi, and Clyburn don't have to worry and "unsay" what the fool said. The DNC can just "rule on it" and say, "The Democratic Party arbitration board reviewed this idea. The Democratic Party platform firmly opposes defunding the police. Those who support defunding the police do not speak for us."

Then, take it from there and use the "official ruling" to explain to the audience what our position really is.

Brooks is a good writer and a palatable Never Trump conservative. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 #1
he is clearly on a path towards "us" - this is his most left wing column I've ever read NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #2
Brooks has always been a knee jerk supporter of the Republican Party no matter what. He's a polite Martin68 Feb 2022 #5
+1000000000000000000 HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #9
+1 (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2022 #19
I don't thinks Brooks is an intellectual at all. He is intelligent, yes, but he just takes positions HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #10
Brooks is a horrible hack - the print version of Chuck Todd. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #11
While I used to laugh at Brooks on the old McNeil/Lehrer News Hour, HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #3
I remember Mark Shields pretty regularly destroying his stances NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #4
Yes, and Mark tried so hard not to make him look like a jerk... HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #7
He's intelligent and can be sensitive but but he's reflexively rightwing struggle4progress Feb 2022 #6
I think there is something about his sensitivity that is out of balance. HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #8
Excellent observation. Without a "straight man," Brooks unknowingly veers way off base (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2022 #18
A descent into ad hominem attacks on David Brooks? summer_in_TX Feb 2022 #12
yes, it is a shame. very brilliant article. thanks for your comment. NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #13
It points to what has lead to the current unraveling of democracy. summer_in_TX Feb 2022 #14
Yes. I read the entire article to my wife . NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #15
Whole editorial can be read at moonscape Feb 2022 #16
Many thanks Hekate Feb 2022 #23
I've heard him say the opposite so many times I don't believe anything he says anymore. Martin68 Feb 2022 #20
Yah Johonny Feb 2022 #21
Big time. DU fanboying on Brooks while he argues about liberalism's "failure." (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2022 #32
I am also disappointed in those reactions. Brooks is thoughtful; I hope to read the whole thing Hekate Feb 2022 #22
Completely agree sammythecat Feb 2022 #24
Brooks can't help but condemn Liberalism, especially when he is decrying it's "failings" FreepFryer Feb 2022 #17
Did you actually read the entire article? NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #26
Same old same old. Start from an erroneous premise that liberalism fails, win a cash prize. FreepFryer Feb 2022 #27
So you didn't. Thx. NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #28
... about a phenomenon he himself promulgated. Thx. (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2022 #31
Small "l" small "d" liberal democracy in a small "r" republic was what the founders aimed for... Hekate Feb 2022 #30
Thank you, NewHendoLib, for your OP. This is very good. More excerpts.... Hekate Feb 2022 #25
"What weakness in liberalism are its enemies exploiting?" gulliver Feb 2022 #29
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