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234. DU can help publicize recent studies on GOP computer fraud
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:07 PM
Oct 2012

DU members please take the time to familiarize yourselves with the two newest studies showing GOP vote flipping in large precincts. One was done by a retired NSA analyst as described in this thread. The link has been blocked for some time, so I have included the entire text of the article at the end of this post. The second study was done by researchers evaluating anomalies in recent Republican primary data. A pdf link to the entire study is attached.

Folks - no matter how hard we work to VOTE and GOTV, we must bring these new studies to the attention of everyone BEFORE THE ELECTION! If they know we are watching, and know the mechanism by which Dem votes are flipped to GOP in larger precincts, we may have a chance of stopping this. The NEW info to get out to social media, MSNBC commentators, etc. is that this vote-flipping process appears to have recently been implemented to Romney's benefit in the primaries. They know how to do it; it worked, and there's nothing to stop them from stealing the 2012 elections with this scheme, (effecting down ticket races as well and sealing our fate re: SC, soc sec and medicare, etc. for a very long time!)
Other entities to contact include The Brennan Center -Lawrence Norden who has done much work in this area; Sheila Parks - While We Still Have Time, a tireless advocate for hand-counted ballots; Verified Voting and Common Cause; they have produced an excellent report on what states need to do to protect the ballots and audit them if needed. Will send additional info on how to contact these voting integrity groups. Someone said earlier, 150,000 of us can make a difference. This might be the most important thing we do in this election cycle. Thanks for listening!

BREAKING: Retired NSA Analyst Proves GOP Is Stealing Elections
By Denis Campbell
GOP is Stealing Elections ?
Why is Mitt Romney so confident?
In states where the winner will be decided by less than 10%, of the vote he already knows he will win. This is no tinfoil hat conspiracy. It’s a math problem. And mathematics showed changes in actual raw voting data that had no statistical correlation other than programmable computer fraud. This computer fraud resulted in votes being flipped from Democrat to Republican in every federal, senatorial, congressional and gubernatorial election since 2008 (thus far) and in the 2012 primary contests from other Republicans to Mitt Romney.
This goes well beyond Romney’s investment control in voting machine maker Hart Intercivic and Diebold’s close ties to George W. Bush. Indeed all five voting machine companies have very strong GOP fundraising ties, yet executives (including the candidate’s son Tagg Romney) there is no conflict between massively supporting one party financially whilst controlling the machines that record and count the votes.

The bigger the precinct (x axis) the higher the number of votes for Romney and corresponding decrease for Santorum and Paul when all lines should look
like the Gingrich line. (Source: MA Duniho)
A retired NSA analyst has spent several sleepless nights applying a simple formula to past election results across Arizona. His results showed across-the-board systemic election fraud on a coordinated and massive scale. But the analysis indicated that this only happens in larger precincts because anomalies in small precincts can be more easily detected.

“Easy to Cheat”
Retired NSA analyst Michael Duniho has worked for nearly seven years trying to understand voting anomalies in his home state of Arizona and Pima County. This publication has written extensively about apparent vote machine manipulation in a 2006 RTA Bond issue election that is still being fought in the courts. Said Duniho, “It is really easy to cheat using computers to count votes, because you can’t see what is going on in the machine.”
When Duniho applied a mathematical model to actual voting results in the largest voting precincts, he saw that only the large precincts suddenly trended towards Mitt Romney in the Arizona primary – and indeed all Republicans in every election since 2008 – by a factor of 8%-10%. The Republican candidate in every race saw an 8-10%. gain in his totals whilst the Democrat lost 8-10%. This is a swing of up to 20 point, enough to win an election unless a candidate was losing very badly.
Since sifting through and decoding massive amounts of data was his work for decades on behalf of the National Security Agency, he wanted to understand why this was ONLY happening in large precincts.
Nose Counting
The idea of examining large precinct results came via a link to a report written by Francois Choquette and James Johnson. Choquette became curious about South Carolina primary results in the February Republican contest. There a poll observer noted an unusually big gain of votes for Mitt Romney in larger precincts than in smaller ones. Choquette wanted to know why?
He examined and applied all of the normal statistical markers to see where a variance might occur: income level, population density, race, urban vs. rural, even party registration numbers. He found no correlation to explain why Romney votes trended upward while Paul and Santorum votes trended downward -yet only in large precincts.
Choquette then looked at all 50 states and found roughly a 10% switch in votes from GOP to Democrat everywhere except Utah, where the presumption was, as it was Mitt’s religious home state and very conservative, there was no chance of Romney losing.
Choquette even saw in Maricopa County, which is Phoenix and its suburbs, that in 2008 Romney used this technique against John McCain. But McCain beat him by too much for a 10% fraud gain to matter. McCain tried to do the same thing in the general election to President Obama but 9 million votes nationally were too many to make up.
Examining every county across America was too massive an undertaking for any one person so he included a simple set of instructions and encouraged others to do the same with raw vote totals in their county/state.
• Download the text files of all raw actual vote results by precinct from the Secretary of State’s Office.
• Arrange them in precinct order.
• Put in all of the candidate totals for each precinct.
• Sort the data by total vote smallest on the top.
Now here it gets a bit dense: He needed to add columns that show cumulative totals by candidate then compare them by candidate to establish trend lines.
That reveals trends should remain statistically constant throughout an election.
Stealing Votes
But as the spreadsheet shows, the larger the precinct, the numbers start to change dramatically.
“If percentages did not change from one precinct to the next, we would see a flat line, but what we are seeing is sloped lines downward for Democrats and upward for Republicans (or, in the case of the Presidential primary, upward for Romney and downward for his opponents), said Duniho.”
In every election contest, the trend lines dramatically crossed for no apparent reason. It was revealed that votes were being systemically bled off for Rick Santorum and Ron Paul and then being credited to Mitt Romney.

Chart showing Barber v Kelly special election to replace Gabby Giffords result in Pima County
where the margin of victory was too large even with the supposed ‘fix’ in to overcome.
Once Duniho completed the spreadsheet, he pumped in actual vote totals from other Arizona election contests.
He looked at every 2010 race in Arizona from Governor Brewer to Senator McCain and Congresswoman Gabby Giffords. The trends lines all did the exact same thing. Someone had manipulated the election outcome, most likely one person inserting a programme inside the system’s central computer… that flipped votes.
The results were astounding.
They showed that Governor Brewer actually lost her election and Gabby Gifford’s razor thin less than 1% point re-election victory over Tea Party Conservative Jesse Kelly was closer to a 20 point victory for her.
Duniho added, “We need to have strong hand count audits to confirm the integrity of these elections. This means comparing hand counts with official reports of the election.”
Ohio Precedent
This isn’t the first time Republicans have been charged with vote theft. It happened in the 2004 presidential election, in Ohio and Florida.
In Ohio, GOP consultant Michael Connell claimed that the vote count computer program he had created for the state had a trap door that shifted Democratic votes to the GOP.
He was subpoenaed as a witness in a lawsuit against then-Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, and lawyers for the plaintiff asked the Dept. of Justice to provide him with security because there were two threats made against Connell’s life by people associated with Karl Rove. But in Dec. 2008, before the trial began, Connell was killed in a plane crash outside Akron Ohio.
There were problems in Florida, as well.
A study by the Quantitative Methods Research Team at the University of California at Berkeley found that anomalies between Florida counties using touch-screen voting and those using other methods could not be explained statistically. Noting the higher-than-expected votes for Bush in three large Democratic counties, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, Michael Hout, a Berkeley professor who did the study said there were strong suspicions of vote-rigging.
“No matter how many factors and variables we took into consideration, the significant correlation in the votes for President Bush and electronic voting cannot be explained,” Hout said. “The study shows that a county’s use of electronic voting resulted in a disproportionate increase in votes for President Bush. There is just a trivial probability of evidence like this appearing in a population where the true difference is zero—less than once in a thousand chances.”
Don’t Trust, Verify
Indeed the only way to 100% verify this election fraud would be through handcounts of ballots by precinct, matching those results to the reported totals. But as was mentioned earlier, a group in Pima County has been trying unsuccessfully to get access to ballots to conduct such a count for almost five years since anomalies first surfaced in voting machines in 2006.
Is there a judge in Arizona likely to suddenly reverse past trends and allow access to conduct such a handcount of ballots 12 days before a national election? And if not, why not? Maybe someone needs to commission the Anonymous hacker group to re-level the playing field because the courts are not going to do it.
The results of Duniho’s analysis can only happen if votes are being stolen, and the only way that’s possible is if the computerised machines are programmed to steal them. Welcome to Zimbabwe.
More than 100 million Americans will cast their ballots thinking their vote will be fairly counted. It should be. Yet the crooks know they can safely flip up to 10% of votes without consequence. Anything more than that is statistically suspect.
President Obama won by such a huge margin in 2008 that even with this anomaly built into the system, he cruised to victory. This year the election is much closer. Can American democracy afford yet another election crisis placing three of the four last national Presidential election results in question or worse: The outcome was stolen, the outcome a victim of election theft?
Don’t Take Our Word
Use the spreadsheet above to do the maths in your own state, county or precinct. The results are compelling. Then demand that the Justice Department stop this insane view that results need to be reported by 11 pm for the television networks. Demand hand ballot counts!
We use paper ballots in the UK and results do not even begin to trickle in until 3 am. The final outcome can take up to three days to finalise. But voters in Britain know the count is accurate because every ballot is transparently hand-counted. When I read this article that Serbia, Belarus and Kazakhstan were sending election monitors to watch the US Election?, I knew we’d jumped the shark.
We are already being victimized by vote fraud on a scale that, in another country, would lead to calls for international election monitors. It is time for Americans to stop being victims of ghosts in the machine.
Denis Campbell and Charley James
Denis G. Campbell is the author of 6 books including ‘Billionaire Boys Election Freak Show,’ ‘The Vagina Wars’ & ‘Egypt Unsh@ckled.’ He is the editor of UK Progressive Magazine and provides commentary to the BBC, itv Al Jazeera English, CNN, MSNBC and others. His weekly ‘World View with Denis Campbell’ segment can be heard every Thursday on the globally syndicated The David Pakman Show. You can follow him on Twitter via @UKProgressive and on Facebook.
Charley James is a long-time independent journalist who covers social justice, politics and economic issues. He’s worked in print and broadcast media for national magazines, large newspapers and major market radio and television outlets. Follow Charley on Twitter @SuddenlyHomeles.
Republished with permission from UK Progressive.
- See more at: http://www.laprogressive.com/gop-is-stealing-elections/#sthash.x9XCo0Ob.dpuf


ooooookay RomneyLies Oct 2012 #1
I don't know...I know some of the damn machines DO flip votes ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #5
Mike Collins has an article that explains it. reusrename Oct 2012 #42
i write software and design control systems... docgee Oct 2012 #73
just askin ekimline Oct 2012 #225
Problem is politicians could buy votes that way. hunter Oct 2012 #241
thanks upi402 Oct 2012 #252
I remember watching on PBS JonLP24 Oct 2012 #177
I own a computer services company -- it is very easy to create programs that disappear, reappear AikidoSoul Oct 2012 #229
"trade laws prohibit that you investigate the firmware, hardware or software" FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #239
FiveGoodMen FTW! Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #256
Its worse than flipping..its losing votes... AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #226
There are a few things to explain that. EOTE Oct 2012 #6
That's what continually concerns me since 2000 (and even before that really) ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #7
WTF is a TPTB? RomneyLies Oct 2012 #8
The Powers That Be nt PCIntern Oct 2012 #9
WTF is "The Powers That Be"? nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #10
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #28
Does the name Richard Charnin mean anything to you? Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #33
I don't buy into black box voting Ct RomneyLies Oct 2012 #43
I don't buy into refusing to look at evidence Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #46
If there was any real evidence, I'd look at it. nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #117
If you don't look, how do you evaluate the quality of the evidence? Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #146
you don't want to be confused with facts? Duppers Oct 2012 #224
If you don't get why it's so easy to steal elections when computers are used, AikidoSoul Oct 2012 #231
"Not using your good marbles." I'm stealing that. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #258
It doesn't matter whether or not you 'buy into' the fact that those machines sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #295
So here we are discussing election theft and vote flipping INdemo Oct 2012 #75
That's the one thing that makes me feel a little better. drm604 Oct 2012 #106
If they can't do anything, then no one can. randome Oct 2012 #111
I believe the Obama campaign is well aware of RW election fraud Doremus Oct 2012 #153
SPOT ON! Let's ask ourselves why, why, why??????????????? They've known about the theft potential AikidoSoul Oct 2012 #233
We need to organize over this. But the fact the neither the Dems nor the Rs has made a fuss makes me Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #257
Still waiting for somebody to name these "Powers that be" RomneyLies Oct 2012 #62
Reading OP's not your strong suit? Wednesdays Oct 2012 #66
I read the OP and the article the OP linked to. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #69
Names. MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #70
Prove it. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #74
If Diebold is not odious, then they must be incompetant JonLP24 Oct 2012 #178
RE: Diebold MessiahRp Oct 2012 #180
ATMs fuck up all the time. Unlike with voting, though, it makes no difference eridani Oct 2012 #183
You're defending republicans brilliantly - TBF Oct 2012 #193
Yes, I noticed that also ... n/t sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #296
You know there is a way to take care of that problem nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #23
Too costly. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #44
Wow. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #47
Absolutely. I work in IT RomneyLies Oct 2012 #61
If you really work in IT, then you know how easy it would be FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #93
I know how dicciult it would be to do so withoout leaving a trail. n/t RomneyLies Oct 2012 #113
What kind of trail could be found on machines that can't be examined? FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #118
It all depends on how you do it. drm604 Oct 2012 #122
See post #100. randome Oct 2012 #125
not according to the NASA IT guys. who , underoath it is the easiest thing in the owrld to make robinlynne Oct 2012 #143
So we would have voting machines that were wiped of code. randome Oct 2012 #145
not at all. google Clint Curtis and congress. He was a NASA programmer hired to write this robinlynne Oct 2012 #155
You are aware that it's illegal to look at the "proprietary" code of these machines? Doremus Oct 2012 #158
And all these attempts were discovered so there are ways to tell. randome Oct 2012 #163
Don't believe I've ever read a more disingenuous reply. Doremus Oct 2012 #171
Many have been discovered. I doubt that ALL have been discovered. robinlynne Oct 2012 #204
I don't believe ANY ballot system is 100% safe. randome Oct 2012 #207
I will fiond the link for you. you are incorrect. Florida was rpogrammed to flip the vote in all of robinlynne Oct 2012 #209
Is this the link? randome Oct 2012 #210
no. I posted link below. here it is again: robinlynne Oct 2012 #212
Thanks. I'll have to look and listen after work. randome Oct 2012 #215
You think wrong. sorry. This I can tell you from personal election monitoring experience. robinlynne Oct 2012 #216
I'm sorry but this proves nothing. randome Oct 2012 #264
He testified that he was hired to and wrote the software to flip half of Florida. watch again. robinlynne Oct 2012 #266
And was this software ever used? Not according to his testimony. randome Oct 2012 #270
Your point? It is proven beyond any doubt. done. proven. argument over. watch Dan robinlynne Oct 2012 #271
oh, and what happened back then was Terry Schiavo. On the exact same day this Congressional hearing robinlynne Oct 2012 #217
All these examples are relatively small in scale. randome Oct 2012 #164
You have obviously not read up on the 2004 Ohio election. Doremus Oct 2012 #169
not true. half of florida in 2000 is not small. How was it dealt with? noone even went to jail? robinlynne Oct 2012 #205
Why do you think no one went to jail? randome Oct 2012 #208
Why do you think Dick Cheney did not go to jail for war crimes? robinlynne Oct 2012 #213
Because he was one of our elected leaders. randome Oct 2012 #214
There is your answer. robinlynne Oct 2012 #218
Yes. the GOP head IT man died in an airplane creash rihgt before he was suppo to testify about the robinlynne Oct 2012 #202
And what caused the crash? randome Oct 2012 #203
It only sounds extremely unlikely to someone who has apparently sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #220
Yeah, well, I've been busy. randome Oct 2012 #221
LOL! Well I'll be darned! I've had that very same experience. Zorra Oct 2012 #236
Bullshit. drm604 Oct 2012 #108
I work in IT security and you're off your rocker. Fawke Em Oct 2012 #168
I became a network administrator the day I turned 16. EOTE Oct 2012 #188
Sorry to join the mob, but you're just wrong. The errors of your reasoning have been presented Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #260
What utter nonsense. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #297
WOW just wow nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #63
+++++1 crunch60 Oct 2012 #141
"more secure"? TahitiNut Oct 2012 #82
Yes, much more secure. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #89
"Worst case I've seen is the crap that single clerk in Wisconsin pulled." Then you are uninformed. Doremus Oct 2012 #160
Again, I refuse to believe the conspiracy theory bullshit RomneyLies Oct 2012 #166
Two clerks in Cleveland were not only charged but went to prison. Doremus Oct 2012 #170
Personally, meanit Oct 2012 #97
Ever vote on punch cards? Ever vote on optiscan? Ever vote on lever machines? RomneyLies Oct 2012 #101
With all due respect meanit Oct 2012 #119
With all due respect RomneyLies Oct 2012 #120
Very telling meanit Oct 2012 #284
watch this video. you wanted evidence. And 3rd parties have been counting votes robinlynne Oct 2012 #211
Actually SON, yes SON... nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #223
'Something here smells'! I agree! sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #298
bcause they drank the kool aid Bush/Rove sold the country....fast is good. private is necessary. robinlynne Oct 2012 #206
I'm sure you know far more than the statisticians whose job it is to analyze this data. EOTE Oct 2012 #24
Anybody with a "job" promoting black box voting nonsense RomneyLies Oct 2012 #45
Anyone who is fine with proprietary voting software that can't be audited in the least... EOTE Oct 2012 #186
+1 Nine Oct 2012 #219
agree and this AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #230
You seem afraid, yes AFRAID, of openly audited elections nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #227
How can you make a blanket statement that it's a scam? drm604 Oct 2012 #99
Shjow me a single instance of it happening RomneyLies Oct 2012 #115
Wow. drm604 Oct 2012 #121
Scam atists? RomneyLies Oct 2012 #123
Obviously you have no real arguments. drm604 Oct 2012 #126
Since the BBV scammers fdon't have any arguments, I don't need anything to counter them. nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #127
I done with you. drm604 Oct 2012 #129
Good RomneyLies Oct 2012 #131
Are you implying that billh58 Oct 2012 #262
Sounds like billh58 Oct 2012 #261
Disagree strongly Mc Mike Oct 2012 #259
I still default to the simple logic... Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #12
Right. Who would put it past them? ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #13
That's all you really need to ask. EOTE Oct 2012 #25
whiskeytide redwhiteblue Oct 2012 #36
I welcome you elehhhhna Oct 2012 #49
Nate Silver predicted the WI recall election result. D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #92
Welcome to DU! juajen Oct 2012 #250
I default to simple logic RomneyLies Oct 2012 #48
+1 D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #87
And +1 for you, too. randome Oct 2012 #91
That must be why so many races are neck-and-neck FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #94
Well, the geniuses that brought us Palin and Romney can't be that good at their jobs. randome Oct 2012 #95
Most of the blame certainly goes to the idiots who vote GOP FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #105
They must have run out of black helicopters for the operation. nt RomneyLies Oct 2012 #116
Who claimed they were the Illuminati? drm604 Oct 2012 #124
But you have no evidence of this happening. You're just afraid. randome Oct 2012 #128
Read the OP. drm604 Oct 2012 #133
Its possible to have election fraud on many different levels... D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #138
I didn't mean to come across as snarky. randome Oct 2012 #140
There is no trail. You imagine a bunch of wrong things. You need to read up. robinlynne Oct 2012 #268
Bush v. Gore tells you just how far they are willing to go Supersedeas Oct 2012 #194
That is your proof that the elections are honest? Are you kidding? robinlynne Oct 2012 #15
That, or they didn't try to steal the Pres race... Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #17
of course they did. they just did not steal enough votes. Obama's win was huge. not 3 points. robinlynne Oct 2012 #38
Name one who publicly said their race was stolen... brooklynite Oct 2012 #22
Every election results in sore losers contesting the results RomneyLies Oct 2012 #51
They didn't expect Obama to win by the margin he did, so their cheating was insufficient to cover... Scuba Oct 2012 #18
Ohio BlueinOhio Oct 2012 #32
I saw my vote flipped in 2008. n/t proReality Oct 2012 #34
If the votes were honestly counted the last time it would have shown that Obama won by a landslide madokie Oct 2012 #52
They wanted Obama to win so they could dump Bush's shit on him RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #56
And the moon landings were staged in a Hollywood sound stage! RomneyLies Oct 2012 #59
Well, yes and no . . . BrainGlutton23 Oct 2012 #85
I KNEW it! randome Oct 2012 #86
Obama was not the only one running. RC Oct 2012 #71
And not a single case of voting fraud on a wide spread scale due to voting machines. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #72
I am far from a Luddite as far as computers go RC Oct 2012 #132
I did not read your response RomneyLies Oct 2012 #134
Good. If we need you we'll go look for you in the whacked out posters threads. cui bono Oct 2012 #176
Ahh, so you're continuing your long standing tradition of responding to posts which you haven't read EOTE Oct 2012 #248
Obama probably won by a MUCH bigger margin than we may ever know. Matariki Oct 2012 #88
Perhaps because he won by too large a margin to believably flip. drm604 Oct 2012 #102
Wouldn't matter under the CT floated here RomneyLies Oct 2012 #114
Hmm...... cliffordu Oct 2012 #147
Take a little more time to read the thread. No one is saying they haven't been trying. randome Oct 2012 #149
So I guess I'm not one of the cool kids RomneyLies Oct 2012 #151
they didn't want '08. One word: Palin. look at '04 ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #174
yes the confusion & challenge marions ghost Oct 2012 #195
So if our margin is strong enough to overcome fraud, that makes fraud OK? eridani Oct 2012 #182
Cuz those nice honest republicans would never do that, would they? Zorra Oct 2012 #232
Same machines that the GOP "rigged" in 2004 gave us wins in 2006 and 2008. brooklynite Oct 2012 #2
and losses! robinlynne Oct 2012 #16
So, ANY loss is an indication of rigging? brooklynite Oct 2012 #20
You are arguing apples and oranges. Either an election is verifiable, or it is NOT. Either each cit robinlynne Oct 2012 #156
We're not talking about verifiable elections... brooklynite Oct 2012 #157
Or 2012. randome Oct 2012 #161
Well, YOU'RE no fun... brooklynite Oct 2012 #162
And yet, depending on the poll, Romney's neck and neck with Obama. Pretty good for a party Doremus Oct 2012 #167
oh they could and they did in 2006 and 2008! robinlynne Oct 2012 #201
If the rig "only" gives the preferred side a 10 point advantage... thesquanderer Oct 2012 #76
I dunno. It might have made a difference if we had 62 or more Democratic senators, not just 59. Selatius Oct 2012 #130
I agree that the analyst proves how it could be done SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #3
Crap. What can be done about it? nt postulater Oct 2012 #4
k&r crazylikafox Oct 2012 #11
I am not ready for these conspiracy theories GitRDun Oct 2012 #14
Conspiracy theories? EOTE Oct 2012 #26
I love it when people who don't even know you call you ignorant or daft. GitRDun Oct 2012 #100
Whoa. randome Oct 2012 #104
Accepting criticism of privately owned and proprietary voting machines as "conspiracy theories" is EOTE Oct 2012 #187
Again with the abusive language, you must be one awful person to be around GitRDun Oct 2012 #190
Once again, you must have been sleeping from 2000 to 2004. EOTE Oct 2012 #192
More suppositions GitRDun Oct 2012 #197
I've built a case, you dismiss it as "conspiracy theories". EOTE Oct 2012 #198
Lol GitRDun Oct 2012 #199
Would it delight you to know theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #228
No, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me. EOTE Oct 2012 #249
Which ones are you ready for? /nt Festivito Oct 2012 #39
Lol GitRDun Oct 2012 #109
This Republican attack on America must be stopped Berlum Oct 2012 #19
18181 votes Gold Metal Flake Oct 2012 #21
^this^ frylock Oct 2012 #30
yep. THAT. elehhhhna Oct 2012 #54
What an amazing coincidence that. nc4bo Oct 2012 #110
That was the number I was trying to remember. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #275
Holy shit on a stick! Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 #27
Same happened to my Mom in NV a few years ago... ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #29
a lot of people have reported that happening going back to 2004 frylock Oct 2012 #31
"it's fucking happening and it's all too real" -- AND it's a conspiracy FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #50
OK, Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 #60
Every allegation that two or more people have planned to do something wrong is a conspiracy theory FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #65
I know where you're coming from, Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 #77
And that change in the term has derailed countless important discussions FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #84
I'll believe it when it actually happens RomneyLies Oct 2012 #55
You'd have to be god to make the statement 'not a single case of "black box voting" has happened' FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #96
Trot out the case. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #103
Many here are trying to 'trot out the case' FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #107
And I don't have to beleive half baked conspiracy theory nonsense just because you do. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #112
sure you will fascisthunter Oct 2012 #142
"affect" the outcome. theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #235
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Selatius Oct 2012 #136
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #137
Have a nice day then. I can see we're not really making any progress holding a civil discussion. nt Selatius Oct 2012 #139
K&R LeftInTX Oct 2012 #35
K & R !!! - Damned Government Workers !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #37
Detroit local news tells me Romney is 1% ahead of Obama, every broadcast. Festivito Oct 2012 #40
Doubtless attempt at election theft. nt. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #273
Just brainstorming here... Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #41
I watched my vote recorded on paper inside the voting machine I used RomneyLies Oct 2012 #58
I like that you've responded to all these posts abelenkpe Oct 2012 #78
You're free to beleive what you will RomneyLies Oct 2012 #81
"Not a single case of election fraud through computerized machines has ever occurred." FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #98
The poster is just a little too focused siligut Oct 2012 #173
I think you may be right. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #181
oh really? That is the GOP argument, and the same argument used by the private, right wing corporate robinlynne Oct 2012 #269
IMHO, I've never doubted for a second that they'll try this shit again. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #53
According to this, it goes back to '08, not '04 or '00. hughee99 Oct 2012 #67
fraud rso Oct 2012 #57
I was hoping... DirtyDawg Oct 2012 #64
Uh-oh...it's vote fraud conspiracy theory season at DU! tritsofme Oct 2012 #68
Vote or voter fraud is different from election fraud and they are not interchangable terms. tandem5 Oct 2012 #83
Right, so in order for this theory of yours to work. Obama must be complicit in the conspiracy. tritsofme Oct 2012 #240
false dilemma mixed with a little thought terminating cliche tandem5 Oct 2012 #244
How is it a false dilemma? tritsofme Oct 2012 #245
well said thanks marions ghost Oct 2012 #255
yes, your political party, the GOP fascisthunter Oct 2012 #144
lol, thanks. You're a gem. tritsofme Oct 2012 #238
Bullshit. Obama did not win every 2008 blue state by 10%. D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #79
To me, the most compelling evidence that these machines are rigged is the fact that exit polling, Nay Oct 2012 #80
Yes I find the whole exit polling issue very suspicious as well ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #150
Who is 'they' who are eliminating exit polling? randome Oct 2012 #152
AFAIK various mainstream media outlets. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #172
They are one consortium. There is ONE group. not many. not two even. It is a group robinlynne Oct 2012 #267
So, you trust exit polling... brooklynite Oct 2012 #154
If you look at the graphs with Central Tabulature it's interesting rightsideout Oct 2012 #90
GWB won in 2000 because of the USSC and FLA (where bro was Guv) PufPuf23 Oct 2012 #135
And because of Al Gore... brooklynite Oct 2012 #159
But how does he plan to govern? Dan Oct 2012 #148
I hate to break this to people, but there are a lot of idiots and dumbasses in this country. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #165
Can't we make the code transparent? toby jo Oct 2012 #175
Not if it is compiled (something open source proponents seem to ignore). ieoeja Oct 2012 #191
While vote fraud through computers is definitely possible fujiyama Oct 2012 #179
circular logic Nine Oct 2012 #222
Paper trail and random hand counts as well marions ghost Oct 2012 #242
Kick ReasonableToo Oct 2012 #184
Kick n/t Shining Jack Oct 2012 #185
A conspiracy as large as necessary would be statistically impossible Progressive dog Oct 2012 #189
If you're happy with your argument from incredulity, fine FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #196
I have a bridge for sale in NYC Progressive dog Oct 2012 #247
And a bad attitude and a total lack of concern for your country. FiveGoodMen Oct 2012 #251
Yawn marions ghost Oct 2012 #243
John COnyers 2004 Ohio election Fraud report...... kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #200
Robert Kennedy Jr. In Rolling Stone: Was the 2004 Election Stolen? JohnyCanuck Oct 2012 #237
DU can help publicize recent studies on GOP computer fraud Hannahcares Oct 2012 #234
"Voters in Britain know the count is accurate because every ballot is transparently hand-counted. " marions ghost Oct 2012 #246
I'm damn glad the Dems went to war for clean voting when we gave them the majority upi402 Oct 2012 #253
There have been improvements in some states, but not enough marions ghost Oct 2012 #254
K&R G_j Oct 2012 #263
K & R marions ghost Oct 2012 #265
I turned this 271 post thread into 51 posts, Mc Mike Oct 2012 #272
K & R marions ghost Oct 2012 #274
Hi , m g. Thanks for the good posts and work! NT. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #278
Backatcha marions ghost Oct 2012 #279
I never saw him live, but have his books Mc Mike Oct 2012 #281
Right marions ghost Oct 2012 #283
I remembered this 'ancient history' video Mc Mike Oct 2012 #285
Amazing marions ghost Nov 2012 #289
When Ms. With talked, she just came across as so honest. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #290
Watch and report (and photograph) marions ghost Nov 2012 #291
Freepress has a new one. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #292
thank you marions ghost Nov 2012 #293
I can't speak for Mr. Bello and FreePress, Mc Mike Nov 2012 #294
Forgot to add 'Cruel and Unusual' Mc Mike Nov 2012 #288
With the added advantage that you don't need to consider opinions that differ from your own. randome Oct 2012 #276
Har Har! It was only temporary, but Mc Mike Oct 2012 #277
Just good old boys Texas-Limerick Oct 2012 #280
It makes total sense that the Repugs Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #282
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Oct 2012 #286
News articles on "vote flipping" have been purged from the internet. reusrename Oct 2012 #287
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