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(5,857 posts) Fri Mar 4, 2022, 12:05 AM Mar 2022

German / Italian led no-fly zone? [View all]

I get that we don't want to directly involve ourselves in a no-fly zone due to MAD, but would it be possible for non-nuclear powers to institute it? Germany / Italy / Turkey / Spain / maybe baltic or nordic countries? We could provide a lot of the support and armaments just like we are currently for Ukraine.

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German / Italian led no-fly zone? [View all] Sgent Mar 2022 OP

If NATO countries involved in an air war, so are we. bottomofthehill Mar 2022 #1

Are they ready to shoot down Russian planes and helicopters? Renew Deal Mar 2022 #2

Sweden / Finland lapfog_1 Mar 2022 #3

Kinda what I'm thinking. mwooldri Mar 2022 #6

Putin' nuclear threat was against NATO. Those countries are NATO members. I don't know if Putin is Martin68 Mar 2022 #4

No ! Just no ! left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #5

That traditionally hasn't been true Sgent Mar 2022 #8

In none of those cases you mentioned ... left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #9

No but Sweden, Finland, Cyprus, Ireland, Malta and others could Bev54 Mar 2022 #7

I am certainly no lawyer, but I believe that article 5 only comes into play if a NATO member is Chainfire Mar 2022 #12

None of the countries I named are in NATO Bev54 Mar 2022 #13

So which one do you think wants to take a chance of destroying itself Chainfire Mar 2022 #14

They'd have to fly over NATO country airspace to do it muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #16

No. And talk about the worst choices relayerbob Mar 2022 #10

No entity but Ukraine can enforce the no fly zone. They are already at war with Russia. Chainfire Mar 2022 #11

No, declaring a no-fly zone doesnt magically clear the skies, it means WAR! Shanti Shanti Shanti Mar 2022 #15