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96. There are three bills in Congress. Is that real world enough for you?

Mon Apr 11, 2022, 08:05 PM

Apr 2022

Schumer and Warren have championed the leading proposal for wide-scale student loan forgiveness. There is no widespread support among both Republicans and Democrats for it. that alone speaks volumes. Marco Rubio introduced a bill which would eliminate interest rates on federal student loans. There is another that would allow student debt to be discharged in bankruptcy. That alone would change a lot of lives. It's good to know that at least a few Dems are working on what young people are asking for.

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Psaki: Student loan borrowers likely to have to pay debt 'sometime' [View all] brooklynite Apr 2022 OP

It's just going to lose young voters qazplm135 Apr 2022 #1

I do not understand this mcar Apr 2022 #3

Getting fed up with the young people's excuses for not voting Walleye Apr 2022 #6

So am I. This is the same perennial refrain that always seems to reappear. It is a threat. In 2016 JohnSJ Apr 2022 #23

But Democrats have the majority ck4829 Apr 2022 #26

Do you believe every Democrat in Congress will vote for student loan forgiveness, especially in the JohnSJ Apr 2022 #27

I believe that Democrats will prioritize people over debts, I hope I'm not wrong ck4829 Apr 2022 #28

Then why don't Democrats introduce the bill in Congress? While many Democrats have said they JohnSJ Apr 2022 #30

Why doesn't Biden just forgive the amount he said he could during the campaign? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #42

Because in the real world, Biden cannot forgive student loans by executive order LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #95

Candidate Biden never said that he would cancel or forgive student debt. lapucelle Apr 2022 #118

Wah! Daddy promised! betsuni Apr 2022 #119

Yes he did. I know the spin now is that he was talking about signing legislation, Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #127

Here is EXACTLY what candidate Biden said. lapucelle Apr 2022 #133

"I'm prepared to write off $10K debt, but not $50K because I don't think I have the authority..." Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #135

President Biden has always maintained that he is prepared lapucelle Apr 2022 #146

So you are telling me that's what he meant when he said that during the campaign? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #147

OMG, so you think Americans believe the president can wave a wand and do what he wants all uponit7771 Apr 2022 #155

I'm not telling you that. Candidate Biden told everyone that. lapucelle Apr 2022 #163

A lot of young people went to the polls because of his stance on student debt Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #164

Biden's stance was that loan forgiveness was a matter for legislation. lapucelle Apr 2022 #165

"I'm prepared to write off $10K debt, but not $50K because I don't think I have the authority..." Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #166

No, millennials did not vote for Biden at a higher percentage than other age groups TexasTowelie Apr 2022 #177

A direct quote is not spin. N/T lapucelle Apr 2022 #134

"Biden said that he didn't have the power to do that " uponit7771 Apr 2022 #152

He said he didn't have the power to do $50K but was prepared to write off $10K. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #154

So the amount matters ?! No really, are you arguing EO would've done it? tia uponit7771 Apr 2022 #156

It was a campaign promise that was taken seriously by young voters Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #158

The question is; is it your position an EO would've eliminated the 10k of debt? tia uponit7771 Apr 2022 #159

It is my position that he said he would write off $10K of student debt for all. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #160

In context of constitution it doesn't make sense for willing to be conflated with able. uponit7771 Apr 2022 #161

So why did he say he could do $10K but not $50K? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #162

Again, my daughter *CAN* drive my car if I let her ... and "was he confused" is a RW trope please uponit7771 Apr 2022 #167

Then why did he say what he said? What did he mean? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #168

Candidate Biden was clear in the editorial he wrote for Medium when he was running for President. lapucelle Apr 2022 #173

Probably not BradAllison Apr 2022 #31

I think you mean Manchin. While some Democrats on loan forgiveness, most are with limits and JohnSJ Apr 2022 #32

Here's what I believe qazplm135 Apr 2022 #78

Kinda think it would take 60 votes in the Senate mcar Apr 2022 #59

nope qazplm135 Apr 2022 #76

You mean change the filibuster rule? mcar Apr 2022 #87

the same way it always works qazplm135 Apr 2022 #91

How does it work? mcar Apr 2022 #102

You do a reconciliation bill qazplm135 Apr 2022 #110

You need sixty votes in the Senate LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #67

no you can do exactly what the article talked about qazplm135 Apr 2022 #74

I do not expect an answer but I have asked the same two questions on several student debt threads LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #84

lol qazplm135 Apr 2022 #93

So you want to call my son and others who worked hard and paid off their debt suckers LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #97

There are all sorts of benefits qazplm135 Apr 2022 #111

If your concept of a policy is so fair, then get this bill adopted in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #112

Anyone who scrimped and saved for retirement qazplm135 Apr 2022 #144

Do you ever tire of being WRONG? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #149

and if the people qazplm135 Apr 2022 #171

The people pushing for Biden to cancel this debt by executive action are doing this for a reason LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #174

more nonsense qazplm135 Apr 2022 #179

Do you ever tire of being WRONG? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #180

lol qazplm135 Apr 2022 #183

... betsuni Apr 2022 #184

The fact that you think that this issue is clear amuses me LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #191

this is kinda sad for you qazplm135 Apr 2022 #193

I am surprised that you are an attorney LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #197

you haven't attempted any analysis qazplm135 Apr 2022 #198

Thank you for the laughs LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #199

yawn qazplm135 Apr 2022 #200

I am surprised given the really poor quality of your attempts at arguments LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #201

Four of the tweets you're using to bolster your arguments Rob H. Apr 2022 #202

Why couldn't it be done for the John Lewis Voting Rights Act? JustAnotherGen Apr 2022 #192

you can use filibuster carveout for the JLVRA qazplm135 Apr 2022 #194

I Blame RobinA Apr 2022 #125

That pretty much ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #136

In my day boys were being drafted who are not old enough to vote Walleye Apr 2022 #137

That is an ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #139

No I didn't mean it that way. I realize 18-year-olds have better things to think about. Walleye Apr 2022 #140

Everything I've said ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #141

I can't begin to understand why people don't vote. Walleye Apr 2022 #142

I am fed up with old people's excuses for voting for Republican. JanMichael Apr 2022 #175

That's OK I agree with that. The only way to beat them is to get more of our people out voting Walleye Apr 2022 #176

Here's the thing about loss of rights Effete Snob Apr 2022 #7

I was going to reply in a similar vein Sympthsical Apr 2022 #9

"and actually lambast those who bring it up" Effete Snob Apr 2022 #18

I find the attitude completely baffling in ostensible Democrats Sympthsical Apr 2022 #53

I agree it is baffling Effete Snob Apr 2022 #81

Rofl.. 😄 Budi Apr 2022 #109

... betsuni Apr 2022 #115

So once again we are putting women's rights on the back burner mcar Apr 2022 #19

We? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #22

White women voting for Trump is continually baffling to me mcar Apr 2022 #24

Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #54

50% of student loans are held by post-graduate students mcar Apr 2022 #58

Hopefully you never need a doctor or lawyer Sympthsical Apr 2022 #64

Bless your heart mcar Apr 2022 #66

What you're advocating is for redistributing wealth upward iemanja Apr 2022 #106

+100000000000 betsuni Apr 2022 #113

Amen! brer cat Apr 2022 #121

Results qazplm135 Apr 2022 #10

So think about your last lecture to your young adult child (not necessarily yours, but in general) Doremus Apr 2022 #56

Actually my 30 YO nephew was saying that he and his friends mcar Apr 2022 #60

Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #143

Good on You, mcar! Enlightening your Cha Apr 2022 #178

they didn't turn out for Sanders or Warren either JI7 Apr 2022 #12

So ignore qazplm135 Apr 2022 #14

In 2024, Millennials + Gen Z will equal Boomers and up in terms of actual VOTES, add in Xennials Celerity Apr 2022 #21

No, Biden Can't Forgive Student Loans By Executive Order LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #68

They're definitely going to extend past the mid terms Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #2

Did Biden run on eliminating $10K for student loan debtors? SharonClark Apr 2022 #4

No by executive fiat he didn't FBaggins Apr 2022 #16

Apparently this needs to be repeated on DU multiple times a week. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #33

"I'm prepared to write off $10K debt, but not $50K because I don't think I have the authority..." SYFROYH Apr 2022 #38

In the 2/16/21 tweet you posted, it is clearly referencing maxsolomon Apr 2022 #43

How does that make sense in the context of not writing off $50K because of a lack of authority? SYFROYH Apr 2022 #44

That's what he promised in 2020. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #46

They do give him credit for his promise to write off at least $10,000 SYFROYH Apr 2022 #49

I guess we'll just have to turn the country back over to the racist clown party maxsolomon Apr 2022 #50

Not necessarily, but I dont think gaslighting young people is the answer to securing their vote. SYFROYH Apr 2022 #51

Gaslighting, huh? maxsolomon Apr 2022 #90

... betsuni Apr 2022 #116

An odd notion of "gaslighting" FBaggins Apr 2022 #123

Well, at least you admit he said what he said, but didn't mean it. SYFROYH Apr 2022 #169

it's also clearly referencing "his authority" qazplm135 Apr 2022 #80

April 5th, 2021. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #83

stop qazplm135 Apr 2022 #94

... betsuni Apr 2022 #117

It is very annoying. betsuni Apr 2022 #47

You are correct LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #73

He did. SYFROYH Apr 2022 #39

Via legislation. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #41

That's nice, but that's not what he said at the town hall. SYFROYH Apr 2022 #45

You are Wrong LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #71

I've never quite seen qazplm135 Apr 2022 #145

Again, you are WRONG LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #148

stop qazplm135 Apr 2022 #170

If Congress were to send Biden a bill to cancel $10,000 in student debt, he'd be happy to sign it." LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #70

No, Joe Biden did not run on canceling $10,000 of student debt through executive order. lapucelle Apr 2022 #185

+1 betsuni Apr 2022 #186

Well then perhaps a certain amount should be forgiven and the whole predatory system be overhauled. Autumn Apr 2022 #5

That's a fine idea. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #34

+1 leftstreet Apr 2022 #48

A lot has already been forgiven mcar Apr 2022 #61

Not enough has been forgiven nt Autumn Apr 2022 #62

Perhaps not, but the Administration is working on it mcar Apr 2022 #65

There are two types of debt cancelled or forgiven LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #75

Senator Warren should write a Senate version of one of the two student debt relief bills lapucelle Apr 2022 #189

I would be curious to see what happens if she did draft such a bill. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #190

Go have someone propose a bill to do this LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #72

Odd that no one calls for that mcar Apr 2022 #88

People are starting to ask and they are being ignored LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #92

There are three bills in Congress. Is that real world enough for you? Autumn Apr 2022 #96

That's good news mcar Apr 2022 #101

If you pay any attention you will see that they do promote them. I guess I missed them asking Biden Autumn Apr 2022 #103

They are all over Twitter, constantly mcar Apr 2022 #104

They are right. Since Biden did mention doing it when he campaigned today would be a very Autumn Apr 2022 #107

"Maybe get off Twitter and you might see one of them talking about the bills they have written betsuni Apr 2022 #114

Have any of these bills made it to committee? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #182

This is going to mess them up with Young Voters Thrill Apr 2022 #8

People more afraid qazplm135 Apr 2022 #11

In Thrill Apr 2022 #13

"Young Voters" who went to college and took on debt that they haven't paid off yet FBaggins Apr 2022 #17

There are always people who are going to be upset kcr Apr 2022 #36

The context here is critical FBaggins Apr 2022 #37

Imagine having been crippled with polio just prior to the vaccine Effete Snob Apr 2022 #82

That's a pretty ridiculous comparison FBaggins Apr 2022 #105

Eliminating the interest would go a long way Johonny Apr 2022 #15

That seems fair. Luciferous Apr 2022 #124

Federal student loans are already at very low interest rates FBaggins Apr 2022 #126

They're not all at zero. That seems to be fair for now. uponit7771 Apr 2022 #150

Why do universities cost so much now anyway? PufPuf23 Apr 2022 #20

That's right mcar Apr 2022 #25

Republics have gutted state tuition subsidies. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #35

All my student debt didn't come from tuition Sympthsical Apr 2022 #55

What's the interest on student loans? Generic Brad Apr 2022 #29

The only way eliminating student loan debt makes sense madville Apr 2022 #40

What about the people who worked hard and paid off their student debt LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #79

Dont agree with eliminating $10k debt manicdem Apr 2022 #52

I'm a Democrat. I'm fine with this. Sympthsical Apr 2022 #57

I'm curious, when was that? nt. Mariana Apr 2022 #99

+1 Owl Apr 2022 #187

so qazplm135 Apr 2022 #195

5 facts about student loans - mcar Apr 2022 #63

Thank you. betsuni Apr 2022 #69

Thanks for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #86

My kids have student loan debt mcar Apr 2022 #89

+++ brer cat Apr 2022 #122

Exactly. mcar Apr 2022 #128

Bookmarking iemanja Apr 2022 #108

This is a major issue/question that I have about the plans to cancel student debt LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #77

Good questions, LMPV mcar Apr 2022 #85

Nothing. You just have to wait for your turn ecstatic Apr 2022 #100

I keep seeing demands that Joe Biden cancel student loans when we need legislation to do this LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #98

Two different student debt forgiveness bills have been introduced by Democratic representatives lapucelle Apr 2022 #120

I don't think we should in any way "buy" young people's votes with student debt forgiveness gulliver Apr 2022 #129

You do know that in 2020 Millennials voted for Biden at the highest percentage? Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #130

Some people are putting down young voters in a disgraceful way by suggesting they won't vote... gulliver Apr 2022 #131

Exactly. Owl Apr 2022 #188

lol qazplm135 Apr 2022 #196

A question for the naysayers about forgoiving student loans AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #132

Jeffrey Noordhoek, the CEO of Great Lakes parent firm Nelnet, is paid over 1.6 million per year Celerity Apr 2022 #138

😲😲😲 uponit7771 Apr 2022 #151

There may be better uses of the money needed LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #153

Student loans AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #172

I don't see the word "likely" in her statement Niphu Apr 2022 #157

I have a relative with student loans.. KWR65 Apr 2022 #181