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Hekate

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20. What I have in mind is giving pilots the authorization to land the plane, & TSA orders to arrest...
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:37 PM
Apr 2022

…and detain violent and/or threatening passengers.

The airlines may not have control over TSA per se, but Uncle Sam certainly does, and I want to know where all those hysterical rules from 2002 went when I’m still taking off my shoes. Even charges of simple assault (spitting, e.g.) should be taken seriously, and for gods’ sake, felonious assault (female flight attendants have gone to the hospital with broken facial bones and teeth knocked out) should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law — and existing laws cover this.

Moving on. The airlines can designate no fly lists, can’t they? That is in their power. They can also confer with each other about problem-passenger behavior. There is no Constitutional “right” to fly.

Finally, go big and go public. Stop trying to pretend this isn’t happening. Make examples of the worst offenders by publicizing the charges against them, and their trials, and their punishments. Let it be known that the airlines will ban passengers who bring trouble on board. At 30,000 feet…

Do I sound angry? I certainly am. Before COVID I was already a reluctant flyer because of the airlines’ business decision to pack us in like sardines and make the whole experience a misery. (Don’t tell me to drive — the people I want so much to see are not hundreds, but thousands, of miles away. ) Now, thanks to the way the pandemic has been mishandled in so many ways by Trump & his cronies at state level, and because of the GOP / RW coddling and encouragement of those who think even masks are an infringement on the Bill of Rights and a personal insult to them, you can add fear of my fellow passengers to my reluctance to fly.

Shudder. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2022 #1
The last time I flew 1st class I was in the Navy flying standby 1973. Emile Apr 2022 #8
International first class has changed a bit since then. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #9
Sweet! Emile Apr 2022 #10
I could go for that. Delphinus Apr 2022 #26
almost every flight I've had has undergone schedule changes.... bahboo Apr 2022 #2
I have not flown in years, or more. Booked a flight for May and within a week I got a change LizBeth Apr 2022 #4
Virtually the same situation here. Going to Thailand in May, and since it was booked in February Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #6
Interesting, thanks for your experience. LizBeth Apr 2022 #7
Staffing shortage, eh? Here's an idea: protect your staff from the crazies & pay them more... Hekate Apr 2022 #3
the tough part is that the people who would do the protecting fescuerescue Apr 2022 #18
What I have in mind is giving pilots the authorization to land the plane, & TSA orders to arrest... Hekate Apr 2022 #20
Shorting the market, driving up demand and jacking up prices Emile Apr 2022 #5
I have no plans to fly anywhere. My last flight was in January of 2020. MineralMan Apr 2022 #11
I'm so sorry for your loss. I also lost both of my parents in the last two years. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #12
Yes. I'm 76 years old and not willing to take the risk. MineralMan Apr 2022 #13
We all have to make such choices. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #14
Same. Jan 2020 fescuerescue Apr 2022 #17
Covid probably isn't "over", Delphinus Apr 2022 #27
I just bought 1st class from atl to phx for July 4th week SYFROYH Apr 2022 #15
I havent flown since Covid started. fescuerescue Apr 2022 #16
Life of a DU airline thread BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #19
I've flown twice since COVID. Both flights no problems. Initech Apr 2022 #22
Easy solution: PAY YOUR WORKERS MORE MONEY! Initech Apr 2022 #21
I was planning a Greek vacation for this summer but I'm going to hold off until Sept-Oct WarGamer Apr 2022 #23
I have flown back and forth, Florida/Indiana several x a year. tavernier Apr 2022 #24
I suspect it's not so much that you were lucky but that a very small percentage are unlucky. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #25
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