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AngryOldDem

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10. From the Vatican Playbook...the Catechism
Fri May 13, 2022, 04:03 PM
May 2022
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.72

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.73
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.74


Ex-Catholic here.

What you cite is one more glaring inconsistency with how Catholics use the catechism to advance whatever narrative they have. It was thought at one time that such babies went directly to Limbo. Now, the verbiage is they are “commended to God’s mercy,” since they were not baptized (the automatic ticket to the Pearly Gates). There are some rites that can be said, but no funeral Mass.

I cannot begin to tell you how cruel that is to a grieving parent. I know — I was one. But I think most priests don’t believe that bullshit either. Mine didn’t.

Compare this with how some Catholics view the death penalty. It’s pretty clear in the CCC that it should only be used in the most extreme of circumstances, and that given all the ways to protect society, it should be rarely, IF EVER, used. Thus, the context is clear that the Church does not support it. Yet, you hear some say it’s permissible, totally ignoring that context.

To be consistent, Catholics should follow the “seamless garment” argument that all life is precious and should be protected and honored from cradle to grave, if they are such good Catholics as they claim to be.

Left all this behind several years ago and never looked back. I was a convert, so I never fully bought most of that faith in the first place anyway.
Eric Swalwell tweet: [View all] tblue37 May 2022 OP
K & R . . . Lovie777 May 2022 #1
Keep repeating this at every opportunity. MontanaMama May 2022 #2
Absolutely! SheltieLover May 2022 #3
K&R Bayard May 2022 #4
The Catholic Church does not officially accept that a fetus is alive and has a soul csziggy May 2022 #5
To my knowledge, the CC does NOT believe Eyeball_Kid May 2022 #7
Inconsistent philosophy is a hallmark of the RC church. BarbD May 2022 #8
From the Vatican Playbook...the Catechism AngryOldDem May 2022 #10
The problem here is that the tweet is entirely incorrect FBaggins May 2022 #14
When we had our first child die during an emergency c-section Bettie May 2022 #20
Truth Leith May 2022 #6
But these kids were already born. AngryOldDem May 2022 #9
Republicans believe kids' lives are precious. sop May 2022 #13
Rt TY Rep Swalwell gets to the Cha May 2022 #11
Good point, Rep. Swalwell... Upthevibe May 2022 #12
I wish that I could recommend this tweet a thousand times...... California Kid May 2022 #15
Nailed it! dlk May 2022 #16
Love Rep. Swalwell! Evolve Dammit May 2022 #17
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Absolutely spot on! niyad May 2022 #19
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