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Hoyt

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19. Unfortunately, that is not exactly what happened. The "fake electors" weren't really billed as
Mon May 23, 2022, 07:17 PM
May 2022

being official, that is from the state agency responsible for official electoral votes, usually the Secretary of State.

The letters accompanying the list of electors weren't sent with fake letterhead, seal, etc., to appear as coming from an official source. Didn't read all of them, but the letters essentially said, "If for some reason, you do not accept the 'official electors,' here is a list of people we would like you to consider (followed by a bunch of trump lovers)."

So, why would they think enough Electoral Votes would not be accepted? Well, on Jan 6, 2017, seven Democratic Representatives tried to challenge trump's electoral votes just like GOPers in 2021 (sans the attack on the Capitol). It didn't work in 2017 because then VP Biden properly shut the them down. (We would have been better off if trump was not installed, but that's another matter.)

So, they didn't really commit fraud because they never tried to pass off the electors as official. Immoral, Unethical, should be a law, etc., all apply. But probably not criminal.

Link to 2017 challenge:
https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-count-objections/index.html


If trump runs in 2024 -- which is highly unlikely, IMO -- we are going to have to beat him at the polls unless they have other evidence. Even, if he doesn't run, someone like him will.

It's the Seinfeld Defense. sop May 2022 #1
And if that won't work... LiberatedUSA May 2022 #12
the call to Georgia was evidence, too Grasswire2 May 2022 #2
One more point. fightforfreedom May 2022 #3
Of course they knew malaise May 2022 #4
Totally agree. Joinfortmill May 2022 #5
You might enjoy this article: Prosecuting Trump for the insurrection chowder66 May 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer May 2022 #8
Excellent, thank you. fightforfreedom May 2022 #9
It's hard to say what will happen but some good points are made. chowder66 May 2022 #10
Post removed Post removed May 2022 #7
The illegality of numerous acts has been discussed everywhere Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #13
Let me know when someone is charged. WarGamer May 2022 #14
So, you admit you're no expert, then claim nothing illegal occurred... Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #17
Let's be honest... WarGamer May 2022 #18
The right wing wants us to give up. Kingofalldems May 2022 #22
It is illegal to interfere with congress when they are voting, period. fightforfreedom May 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer May 2022 #16
Agree, no matter how disappointing it is. Sorry, missed your post earlier and posted below. Hoyt May 2022 #20
The GBS is important, but not the only important piece of evidence Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #11
Unfortunately, that is not exactly what happened. The "fake electors" weren't really billed as Hoyt May 2022 #19
I am not sure that is correct. I will have to look it up. fightforfreedom May 2022 #21
Let us know after you look it up. In any event, not sure one can tie it CRIMINALLY to trump. Hoyt May 2022 #23
Except for the facts, you've nailed it dpibel May 2022 #26
Kick this one. Kingofalldems May 2022 #24
There is one inescapable fact: sop May 2022 #25
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