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Kid Berwyn

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90. If that were so, why bother posting?
Thu May 26, 2022, 08:18 AM
May 2022
Source: Studies In Intelligence Vol. 01 No. 1, 1997

A Die-Hard Issue

CIA's Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90


Gerald K. Haines

An extraordinary 95 percent of all Americans have at least heard or read something about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), and 57 percent believe they are real. (1) Former US Presidents Carter and Reagan claim to have seen a UFO. UFOlogists--a neologism for UFO buffs--and private UFO organizations are found throughout the United States. Many are convinced that the US Government, and particularly CIA, are engaged in a massive conspiracy and coverup of the issue. The idea that CIA has secretly concealed its research into UFOs has been a major theme of UFO buffs since the modern UFO phenomena emerged in the late 1940s. (2)

In late 1993, after being pressured by UFOlogists for the release of additional CIA information on UFOs, (3) DCI R. James Woolsey ordered another review of all Agency files on UFOs. Using CIA records compiled from that review, this study traces CIA interest and involvement in the UFO controversy from the late 1940s to 1990. It chronologically examines the Agency's efforts to solve the mystery of UFOs, its programs that had an impact on UFO sightings, and its attempts to conceal CIA involvement in the entire UFO issue. What emerges from this examination is that, while Agency concern over UFOs was substantial until the early 1950s, CIA has since paid only limited and peripheral attention to the phenomena.

SNIP…

The House Armed Services Committee also held brief hearings on UFOs in 1966 that produced similar results. Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown assured the committee that most sightings were easily explained and that there was no evidence that "strangers from outer space" had been visiting Earth. He told the committee members, however, that the Air Force would keep an open mind and continue to investigate all UFO reports. (71)

Following the report of its O'Brien Committee, the House hearings on UFOs, and Dr. Robertson's disclosure on a CBS Reports program that CIA indeed had been involved in UFO analysis, the Air Force in July 1966 again approached the Agency for declassification of the entire Robertson panel report of 1953 and the full Durant report on the Robertson panel deliberations and findings. The Agency again refused to budge. Karl H. Weber, Deputy Director of OSI, wrote the Air Force that "We are most anxious that further publicity not be given to the information that the panel was sponsored by the CIA." Weber noted that there was already a sanitized version available to the public. (72) Weber's response was rather shortsighted and ill considered. It only drew more attention to the 13-year-old Robertson panel report and CIA's role in the investigation of UFOs. The science editor of The Saturday Review drew nationwide attention to the CIA's role in investigating UFOs when he published an article criticizing the "sanitized version" of the 1953 Robertson panel report and called for release of the entire document. (73)

Unknown to CIA officials, Dr. James E. McDonald, a noted atmospheric physicist from the University of Arizona, had already seen the Durant report on the Robertson panel proceedings at Wright-Patterson on 6 June 1966. When McDonald returned to Wright-Patterson on 30 June to copy the report, however, the Air Force refused to let him see it again, stating that it was a CIA classified document. Emerging as a UFO authority, McDonald publicly claimed that the CIA was behind the Air Force secrecy policies and coverup. He demanded the release of the full Robertson panel report and the Durant report. (74)

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https://sgp.fas.org/library/ciaufo.html

And that’s from an Agency that wants us to move on from the subject.
US aircraft were in close calls with UFOs BigmanPigman May 2022 #1
Encounters perhaps detailed in the private session. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #2
The key to this whole question is a movie from 1950s, "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Stuart G May 2022 #35
Is that blurry blob thing Disaffected May 2022 #3
No, that UFO photograph is from 1950. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #4
Why then did you include it Disaffected May 2022 #6
As I stated in the OP, UFOs are a worthy study. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #16
Nope, it's a total waste of time. Aliens are not visiting fucking earth. USALiberal May 2022 #86
Yes, they had lots of hubcaps in McMinnville back then PSPS May 2022 #10
Maybe so, but it's very hard to duplicate for two photos. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #18
"I understand the object may about 50-feet in diameter" Disaffected May 2022 #27
The link shows how Maccabee gave it the old college try. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #42
The old college try failed IMO. Disaffected May 2022 #45
Wrong. The report makes clear the photos were taken from 2 spots. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #47
Yeah, Disaffected May 2022 #51
No need to be condescending. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #53
Have you ever played frisbee golf? Eko May 2022 #29
How about the Rex Heflin UFO photos from 1965? Kid Berwyn May 2022 #43
I don't see any disturbance. Eko May 2022 #44
Can't make you see what you don't want to see. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #50
Are you talking about this? Eko May 2022 #60
Yes. There's more. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #66
Yes I already read that. Eko May 2022 #74
It's possible UFOs involve ETs, but I don't know. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #76
So if its not a vehicle from outer space Eko May 2022 #77
None of your conclusions edhopper May 2022 #34
Whatever. I quoted Bruce Maccabee. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #37
That analysis doesn't make sense to me. Disaffected May 2022 #46
Photogrammetry. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #81
I know what photogrammetry is. Disaffected May 2022 #83
Birds and weather phenomena tend to be unmanned OhZone May 2022 #5
And so are fakes and tall tales as well as Disaffected May 2022 #9
Yeah OhZone May 2022 #12
When asked if any UAP reports included multiple types of data, they went dark. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #19
Lots of UFOs, but few aliens. Why would they waste their time with us? Hoyt May 2022 #7
That's a great question. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #21
They probably saw how we treated Native Americans, and went elsewhere. Hoyt May 2022 #24
Absolutely would, as it demonstrates our empathy for others. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #25
Let's do a little thought exercise on that Amishman May 2022 #88
Aw Jeez... PSPS May 2022 #8
It's only been a half century since the UFO hearings. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #23
Im not sure you are saying what you think you are saying. Eko May 2022 #28
They have been here, & looked us over. Decided humans not "smart enough" to have contact with. Stuart G May 2022 #11
That would be sad. Or worse, we are too dirty. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #32
except they seem to be hanging out around the planet, just in the oceans anarch May 2022 #49
I never get an actual answer to this question, and I never will. Archae May 2022 #13
I have answered this before CrackityJones75 May 2022 #14
shoot I forgot my disclaimer CrackityJones75 May 2022 #15
Stellar objects are not the same as aerial objects. Archae May 2022 #17
That is indeed their conundrum. Disaffected May 2022 #26
It does show what the human imagination can come up with. Archae May 2022 #30
Ore to the point, public reports of UFOs and aliens tend to mirror the movies they've seen recently brooklynite May 2022 #64
Movies and other popular media. Archae May 2022 #71
Lol....How come the pictures in the 1950s look better? USALiberal May 2022 #20
Our phones are designed for portraits, close up pictures of us in everyday life Mr. Sparkle May 2022 #31
Oh, then what about Disaffected May 2022 #48
Unless there is an Alien invasion , the odds of a small number of professional photographers Mr. Sparkle May 2022 #57
If you are talking about flying saucers, Disaffected May 2022 #58
The Navy does. Today's hearing showed a crap picture. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #33
Yes, posted before, But the key to this whole question is a movie: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Stuart G May 2022 #36
UFOs associated with power outages. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #52
Well, that's an interesting hypothesis - that films are convincing people they understand aliens muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #62
It's the greys melm00se May 2022 #38
I've posted on DU for more than 20 years. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #54
I don't know why it still surprises me how many people vehemently reject this topic anarch May 2022 #39
I think the government knows more than that, but the government is not going to tell it all. Stuart G May 2022 #55
I'm guessing people "reject this topic" because there's no evidence to support it... brooklynite May 2022 #56
you don't consider even the verified Navy videos to be compelling evidence? anarch May 2022 #61
Seem to be edhopper May 2022 #75
J Allen Hynek thought the Papua encounter remarkable. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #59
+100 Duppers May 2022 #65
My Take Willto May 2022 #40
As to the guy in Arkansas in 1965... Archae May 2022 #41
Understand why you feel that way. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #67
Hey, I had an affair with a Martian! LeftInTX May 2022 #63
Here's why The Pentagon considers UFOs "Serious Business" Kid Berwyn May 2022 #68
"You fools! It's getting away!" struggle4progress May 2022 #69
Great cartoon, that! And another... Kid Berwyn May 2022 #72
Two little men struggle4progress May 2022 #70
The Flying Saucer Kid Berwyn May 2022 #73
Global warming is forcing undiscovered flying creatures into the skies ecstatic May 2022 #78
"A frog hops. These are walking." Kid Berwyn May 2022 #79
That story was really cool ecstatic May 2022 #80
Hell what about UHO's? Cause I hear more shit than I can't identify. miyazaki May 2022 #82
Your report is called an observation. It contains information... Kid Berwyn May 2022 #84
What a fucking waste of time! Nt USALiberal May 2022 #85
If that were so, why bother posting? Kid Berwyn May 2022 #90
Thanks, Kid, and hang in there! Amazing how "This is real" from the military (2017) gets forgotten librechik May 2022 #87
A: The speed at which Corporate News drops UAP story. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #91
I thought this would be a thread mocking the UFO hearings so I didn't click on it. Too easy. hunter May 2022 #89
Those are very important observations. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #92
I used to have a book full of those photos LeftInTX May 2022 #93
His analysis may be correct. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #94
And the net result of These analyses is: they're unidentified... brooklynite May 2022 #95
Jacques Vallee would be disappointed if that was the explanation. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #96
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