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Sympthsical

(9,192 posts)
11. You're doing a fine job of illustrating my point
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jun 2022

Specifically the indulgence of the practice. Your first knee jerk response is, "There is a criticism of my party implicit in here. Cannot be allowed!"

I'm talking about Congress as a whole. And if you cannot bring yourself to this moment in history and think, "You know. I think we made some mistakes that helped get us here. We should see what those are and come up with solutions," I don't know what to tell you. How does anyone learn anything at all when mistakes cannot be acknowledged without a highly partisan, "We have done nothing wrong, ever, in all history, and discussing the very idea is harmful and wrong."

I think you have it precisely backwards. I think opposition to even passing self-examination and reflection is exactly how we got where we are. If we do not reverse that course, we will get more of the same.

You want us to steer even harder towards the cliff.

It's just a pass for me.

When you look at the Court's rulings, you see that many of them come down to, "Congress never authorized this." They turn to that again and again. Yes, they can strike down laws as unconstitutional, but it is not their general go-to. Even their Roe ruling isn't, "Laws allowing abortion are unconstitutional." They said there is no law or constitutional right that guarantees it.

Great. So we'll write some laws.

I will never understand this human shielding of getting politicians out of their responsibilities. It's getting real tired. "Vote for me! I will be capable of doing nothing!"

That's a fucking clarion call right there.

The court can and does overturn laws that congress passed, so I guess I don't understand your post emulatorloo Jun 2022 #1
Codifying Roe is the biggest example at hand Sympthsical Jun 2022 #2
I still don't understand your post. This court would have overturned a Roe v Wade law. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #10
What's your evidence of this? Sympthsical Jun 2022 #17
We need to vote Democratic in order to change the make up of the courts. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #32
Where I agree inthewind21 Jun 2022 #12
It is not ALWAYS the final stop Effete Snob Jun 2022 #30
Congress can and does pass laws that supersede court decisions Effete Snob Jun 2022 #29
Thanks appreciate it. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #33
Yes and no. unblock Jun 2022 #3
Congress inthewind21 Jun 2022 #13
Well yes, an act of congress allowing federal funds for abortion unblock Jun 2022 #21
Congress can get rid of the Hyde amendment Effete Snob Jun 2022 #31
Another blame the Democrats post...and we will accomplish nothing if we lose elections...and courts Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #4
Exactly. Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #6
You're doing a fine job of illustrating my point Sympthsical Jun 2022 #11
Nah your proving their point. You're condemning 'congress as a whole', but you're acting as if emulatorloo Jun 2022 #14
I'm not sure if we're thinking about the same issues. BlueCheeseAgain Jun 2022 #5
The reliance on executive orders is a big problem Sympthsical Jun 2022 #15
I was going to (and probably still will) write a post that gets at what you posted In It to Win It Jun 2022 #7
Your OP is very good. It is pragmatic and strategic n/t emulatorloo Jun 2022 #19
Thank you! In It to Win It Jun 2022 #25
When was this magical window when Roe could have been codified? maxsolomon Jun 2022 #8
When is there ever a magical window for anything? Sympthsical Jun 2022 #16
Your Party loyalty should remain because there is no other choice. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #20
Isn't that "Who's better?" question illustrative of the problem Sympthsical Jun 2022 #23
McConnell 'does fine' because of the fillibuster. Biden is trying to get Senate Democrats to kill emulatorloo Jun 2022 #22
Simple question: Will we have 60 senators after November? Sympthsical Jun 2022 #24
Burden of Competent Governing Aepps22 Jun 2022 #27
That is true to a great extent Effete Snob Jun 2022 #9
Mainly because of the F'ing fillibuster... Kill the supermajority BS JCMach1 Jun 2022 #18
Dumb Americans want everything to be black and white BootinUp Jun 2022 #26
This is all very true. PTWB Jun 2022 #28
Legislation is not a "dry erase board"? dpibel Jun 2022 #34
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