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intheflow

(28,464 posts)
75. Man, I miss working for smart Black people.
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 10:17 AM
Feb 2023

As a white woman in a liberal profession (librarianship), let me just tell you, it ain't just the white Reich wingers that are the problem. It's white culture. I don't doubt my library's leadership sees itself as liberal and supporting diversity, but somehow they can't seem to hire Black or Latino librarians and staff in our 35% Black/40% Latino city. No one on the front lines speaks Spanish. Attempts to change the culture into something resembling DEIB are met with suspicion and resistance, and trying to push for it will lead to being shut out of promotions. (I know this from personal experience.) Any kind of lliberatory work to change the culture from helping poor people to helping our neighbors is shut down immediately

Meanwhile, when I worked for a Black-run non-profit, we worked on very heavy subjects and we also had fun, thoughtful discussions, the workplace was a community in and of itself, and was also a vital part of the larger community we served. Our service to the community was based on community needs and feedback, not what passes for "service" in my library (book clubs reading white authors, computer classes to teach the poor masses of the 21st Century, etc.). My boss and coworkers took the time to get to know me and allowed me to get to know them. It was a cooperative, thoughtful, and focused organization, and I really, really miss it.

I remain flabbergasted by how ingrained racism is Effete Snob Feb 2023 #1
Racism is certainly appallingly pervasive, just pops up everywhere. Hortensis Feb 2023 #52
It kind of does matter, though. White people fall into two categories ... Whiskeytide Feb 2023 #68
Possibility of New Job people Feb 2023 #2
I do get sick of stupid people. Ignorance, laziness and greed: no one race has a monopoly. DFW Feb 2023 #3
That has the ring of truth Hekate Feb 2023 #29
:) +100 as the station chief weighs in gently. Hortensis Feb 2023 #57
I always weigh in gently, but I make it easy on myself DFW Feb 2023 #73
Sounds like a great place with great, and fortunate people. Hortensis Feb 2023 #76
My man in Geneva is very fortunate to be where he is. DFW Feb 2023 #129
Yes. I can't even live in a mostly white neighborhood ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #4
I moved to a white rural county in CA, no less. Here's what I found. usonian Feb 2023 #9
And hanging on mostly white social media sites gets even worse Hortensis Feb 2023 #53
Isn't DU a mostly white social media site? hunter Feb 2023 #88
Yes. ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #103
There's no way in hell I'd ever move back to the 99% affluent white community I grew up in. hunter Feb 2023 #91
See, this is the way ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #104
All the fucking time. Aristus Feb 2023 #5
+1000 Diamond_Dog Feb 2023 #12
+1,000,000 ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #36
This. And it won't stop until more of us admit it. yardwork Feb 2023 #65
+++++++ LuckyCharms Feb 2023 #74
A small pointless defense of Honey Boo Boo. betsuni Feb 2023 #117
Absolutely. cilla4progress Feb 2023 #6
I am a white woman, I feel much safer and more comfortable in a room that's all Black people but me Walleye Feb 2023 #7
Yes, I am white and sick of ellie Feb 2023 #8
Do you see the racism in your comments? Sympthsical Feb 2023 #10
Sure TexasBushwhacker Feb 2023 #11
I'd delete it Sympthsical Feb 2023 #14
I disagree. I think we need lots more OPs like this. yardwork Feb 2023 #66
+1000 Solomon Feb 2023 #70
It's just rewritten Catholicism Sympthsical Feb 2023 #71
Well said. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #80
I don't see it that way at all, though I agree with many of your points. yardwork Feb 2023 #84
There's nothing wrong with being Catholic. old as dirt Feb 2023 #85
My entire family is Catholic Sympthsical Feb 2023 #100
Always thought the Hamilton Walk might be fun. old as dirt Feb 2023 #116
In the U.S.A. the Catholic Church is as diverse and as divided as the U.S.A. in general. hunter Feb 2023 #118
I was just keeping it short Sympthsical Feb 2023 #122
In the Province of Popayán, ... old as dirt Feb 2023 #134
+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2023 #98
Nailed it fescuerescue Feb 2023 #112
I also hope your job situation improves. WDLAL Feb 2023 #45
To my mind it's about the culture, cilla4progress Feb 2023 #27
What about "white culture" is offensive? Sympthsical Feb 2023 #50
In historical writings, ... old as dirt Feb 2023 #59
Ok let's unpack, shall we? cilla4progress Feb 2023 #108
Very thoughtful post. K&R. GoodRaisin Feb 2023 #37
This thread is fascinating. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #43
Thank you for this comment. WDLAL Feb 2023 #44
Apparently no for people who don't realize that white on white Hortensis Feb 2023 #54
Racism is a by-product of a power structure ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #107
:) Right. Presumably, if all those who're sick of white people Hortensis Feb 2023 #111
I'm guessing your post will be studiously ignored. EX500rider Feb 2023 #130
:) I glanced down this sorry thread and noticed the typical Hortensis Feb 2023 #131
Thank you, you're totally on point. nt Raine Feb 2023 #56
Yeah, This RobinA Feb 2023 #58
as usual, spot on m8 Celerity Feb 2023 #60
This. It's like the "noble savage" cliche, even if unintended. Oneironaut Feb 2023 #79
That is the first phrase that came to mind Sympthsical Feb 2023 #99
Immersion in another culture GusBob Feb 2023 #105
Also like the decisions to appoint someone treestar Feb 2023 #93
OH DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED Skittles Feb 2023 #13
I know how you feel. WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2023 #15
What I get sick of Demobrat Feb 2023 #16
Then there are the ones who want them to BUILD THAT WALL! TexasBushwhacker Feb 2023 #20
It Was Always Thus RobinA Feb 2023 #64
I've lived in diverse neighborhoods all of my life GenThePerservering Feb 2023 #17
Me too. Demobrat Feb 2023 #18
Lol, yes. When we moved away from extremely diverse Los Angeles, Hortensis Feb 2023 #63
Nope. Just like I never get sick of black people or brown people of other people. I do get kelly1mm Feb 2023 #19
That right there GenThePerservering Feb 2023 #120
Stupid, racist white people. I am reading "Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage niyad Feb 2023 #21
Oh, god, YES. I'm white, too. TygrBright Feb 2023 #22
I don't rabid_decline Feb 2023 #23
I get exhausted oer it at times... rabid_decline Feb 2023 #24
Yes, I do. Elessar Zappa Feb 2023 #25
I'm half white and I look white. So yeah, damn near every day. Iggo Feb 2023 #26
I really don't care where anyone is from. Mr. Evil Feb 2023 #28
Exactly TRUE Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2023 #31
+1 treestar Feb 2023 #49
+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2023 #124
60% of US population white. Non-white 40%. Seems Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2023 #30
Yascha Mounk Author, "The Great Experiment" littlemissmartypants Feb 2023 #32
I get sick of Right Wingers and Far Left Trolls that are closer to Right Wing than Liberal JI7 Feb 2023 #33
+100000000000000 betsuni Feb 2023 #40
+1 treestar Feb 2023 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author AllyCat Feb 2023 #34
No. johnp3907 Feb 2023 #35
Yep. Sick of their entitlement, racism, heads up their asses Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #38
I'm white and I like white people Tickle Feb 2023 #39
No I don't. I get sick of all people in general. nt Raine Feb 2023 #41
LoL 🤣 me too NT Tickle Feb 2023 #42
If you think you won't find non-whites who think just malaise Feb 2023 #46
how is this one whit any better treestar Feb 2023 #47
"It's a form of virtue signalling" LexVegas Feb 2023 #77
Bingo. BlackSkimmer Feb 2023 #115
The difference is: intheflow Feb 2023 #78
how does that make it OK to be treestar Feb 2023 #92
"Not all white people!!!" "White Lives Matter!" intheflow Feb 2023 #138
When is the "institutional racism" over treestar Feb 2023 #139
(HD) SON PALENQUE / YO ME VOY : AMPLIFICADO (COLOMBIA) EN VIVO old as dirt Feb 2023 #51
being Asian American, it's not just white people, stupidity runs rampant in all countries JuJuChen Feb 2023 #55
Only sick of angry, entitled white men. milestogo Feb 2023 #61
I get sick of stupidity, whatever the source. NT Patton French Feb 2023 #62
Even in our semirural blood-red GA county, about 30% vote Democratic Hortensis Feb 2023 #67
Yep, lots of them tavernier Feb 2023 #69
Vacancy rates GusBob Feb 2023 #72
Man, I miss working for smart Black people. intheflow Feb 2023 #75
I had a post on FB the other day where they were talking black people and a string LizBeth Feb 2023 #81
I like to think because I'm mucifer Feb 2023 #82
No. And I think saying that is weird. Happy Hoosier Feb 2023 #83
Seriously I am fed up with stupid kacekwl Feb 2023 #86
Sure, I get frustrated with other white people mvd Feb 2023 #87
No, I'm just sick of self righteous people forthemiddle Feb 2023 #89
Totally agree. nt Raine Feb 2023 #95
Sometimes it's ForgedCrank Feb 2023 #96
What is self righteous about acknowledging whiteness as a destructive social system? ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #106
This is how we lose elections. jalan48 Feb 2023 #90
People want to work. Employers don't want to pay workers a fair wage. Initech Feb 2023 #94
The premise and substance of this thread are crap. Bonx Feb 2023 #97
Embrace it my friend - this is the direction the left wants to go... Fix The Stupid Feb 2023 #102
Its virtue signaling. Its not real. nt LexVegas Feb 2023 #110
Not for me it's not ismnotwasm Feb 2023 #113
Trump is a cartoon of whiteness. How he dresses, what he eats, how he talks, everything. betsuni Feb 2023 #114
If you think it should be deleted, report it TexasBushwhacker Feb 2023 #132
I don't think it should be deleted TheProle Feb 2023 #140
Back atcha. Iggo Feb 2023 #125
No. I get sick of systemic racism, and as others have said, stupid people, or all kinds. Caliman73 Feb 2023 #101
I'd never put it like that. I can be well aware of my privilege and the political bent... Silent3 Feb 2023 #109
To figure out if this is offensive.... EX500rider Feb 2023 #119
I think this is shallow and offensive. My answer to you is "No. I don't" WarGamer Feb 2023 #121
+1 Kaleva Feb 2023 #128
You're trying too hard. BannonsLiver Feb 2023 #123
YES. My damn relatives. Siblings and their kids. Racist ignorant assholes, all. n/t CousinIT Feb 2023 #126
Most of us DUers in LTRs are in a relationship with someone of our own race Kaleva Feb 2023 #127
I don't understand the accusations in this thread that saying you're sick of your own group is the betsuni Feb 2023 #133
Quite an exaggerated conflation of events hey? GusBob Feb 2023 #135
So you think if a black person posted they "were sick of black people" on this site.. EX500rider Feb 2023 #136
I suggest the OP consider looking into the mirror every day and punch themselves in the face MichMan Feb 2023 #137
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