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maxsolomon

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58. Reproductive choice isn't a constitutional amendment

Mon Mar 27, 2023, 05:16 PM

Mar 2023

Last edited Mon Mar 27, 2023, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Rampage Shootings don't currently have a solution.

Maybe 50 years from now it may have one - it's taken 45 years (from the NRA's "Cincinnati Revolution" ) to get to this point. The pendulum may swing the other way but it's going to take decades...

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Opinion: The Second Amendment is moot. Useless. Unnecessary. Repeal it. [View all] Roland99 Mar 2023 OP

Absolutely EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #1

If we repeal the 10th, then the Supreme Court literally last word jimfields33 Mar 2023 #2

That mechanism would like entail all out revolution and would not have a very happy ending for many. Roland99 Mar 2023 #3

The 10th allows red state dictators and oppression EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #4

or it would allow red politicians to run the whole country no matter what when they have majority. jimfields33 Mar 2023 #5

How so? EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #8

Without States Rights/10th Zeitghost Mar 2023 #15

Agree with repealing the 2nd amendment, but not the 10th. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #41

Article 5 of the US Constitution is the mechanism. AZ8theist Mar 2023 #39

An Article 5 convention for proposing amendments Seeking Serenity Mar 2023 #78

Do you really think that states would vote to repeal the 10th Amendment? friend of a friend Mar 2023 #63

Then get a new Constitution that allows more federal power EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #79

The states won't vote for it. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #85

Why not bag the whole "constitution" thing altogether? It keeps politicians from doing good, right? Pete Ross Junior Mar 2023 #6

Really? Strawman much? Roland99 Mar 2023 #7

The Constitution should be thrown in the garbage honestly Marius25 Mar 2023 #11

Starting from scratch in the current political atmosphere wnylib Mar 2023 #48

The 2nd Amendment is not going to be repealed.....Period!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #9

It would take a war, or maybe two to get it repealed. Initech Mar 2023 #10

I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #12

and then what? GenXer47 Mar 2023 #28

I never said anything about attacking anyone, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #29

I'm 79 and I still do a kill shot at 400 meters with my M-14 with iron sights. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #65

First rifle I carried in Vietnam, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #67

I never fired the M-16. I can't believe they didn't even have cleaning kits at first. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #68

We have had this debate in the past concerning the 2nd. I support repeal. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #38

First off, I've never said I oppose a repeal, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #43

I don't think I said you did or didn't support repeal. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #47

+100. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #49

You're right about that not being a popular opinion. 😉 ShazzieB Mar 2023 #52

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #53

Certainly not something that would probably even happen in the rest of my lifetime Roland99 Mar 2023 #13

Well, I'm 75, so definitely not in the time I have left on Planet Earth, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #16

Peace Roland99 Mar 2023 #18

You're mistaken about procedure dpibel Mar 2023 #32

Maybe not, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #33

There's good reason to argue that it WOULD take a constitutional convention to repeal it Bucky Mar 2023 #102

AGREE Smackdown2019 Mar 2023 #56

Really with I could rec your post, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #57

Weapons that some posters like to call assault (that is how it is spelled) weapons former9thward Mar 2023 #103

Sorry, using a cellphone typing. Smackdown2019 Mar 2023 #104

Yes that was a fully automatic machine gun. former9thward Mar 2023 #105

They had Headlines Shooting back then Smackdown2019 Mar 2023 #106

Yeah, but we can treat gun fetishes the same as we do drunk driving or smoking. hunter Mar 2023 #99

You have put it quite succinctly. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #100

In an ideal world, sure. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #14

The same things were said about abortion!!!! The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #40

Reproductive choice isn't a constitutional amendment maxsolomon Mar 2023 #58

The point is clear The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #69

Do you have stats to back up that claim on states w/ lower mass shootings? maxsolomon Mar 2023 #71

Your question is what always happens. It is a diversion. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #74

Thanks for the top link. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #80

You are correct I am very angry over the issue of dead, bloody children! The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #87

Let's focus on real world solutions. Opening the Constitution to change will hand it over to maggots NBachers Mar 2023 #17

And we do not want these assholes turning this country fascist authoritarian. Initech Mar 2023 #23

Multiple maggot states are already in line for a Constitutional Convention. The threshold isn't far NBachers Mar 2023 #34

I'm afraid you're right, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #35

whatever "militias" there are are not "well-regulated" and they want to kill US. Domestic terrorists Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #19

The 2nd Amendment is a potential national suicide pact. It has allowed the RW to accrue hundreds of Celerity Mar 2023 #20

Agreed. So, let's do what's needed to repeal that amendment. MineralMan Mar 2023 #21

Repealing the 2A is a long overdue first step to solving this problem LonePirate Mar 2023 #22

Yup. It's just a tool for firearms manufacturers and, consequently, those KPN Mar 2023 #24

If the supreme court would rule that 2A is not for personal self defense, then there is no need Jburt301 Mar 2023 #25

129 mass shootings Traildogbob Mar 2023 #26

So, since that is never going to happen, what is your Plan B? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #27

Jburt in post 21 hit on it....courts need to change their interpretation Roland99 Mar 2023 #30

Un-stacking the court inthewind21 Mar 2023 #42

it has to start at local levels Roland99 Mar 2023 #50

Local inthewind21 Mar 2023 #60

The wording of the 2nd is not even gramerical IMO Disaffected Mar 2023 #31

Convince inthewind21 Mar 2023 #44

I think it was how they worded things at the time. thatdemguy Mar 2023 #107

Funny how the right wingers are originalists except for when it comes to the 2nd Am. nt SunSeeker Mar 2023 #36

+1 and another 100 for good measure. yonder Mar 2023 #51

The message needs to be making it "safe" for law abiding gun owners to keep their guns. cstanleytech Mar 2023 #37

The interpretation of the 2nd has been perverted. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #45

This Johonny Mar 2023 #86

Yup and Burger was a conservative. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #88

I'm a civilized country that would happen. BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #46

I totally agree wendyb-NC Mar 2023 #54

We need more mothers like... The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #55

Not sure inthewind21 Mar 2023 #61

Yes I understand The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #70

More than brave inthewind21 Mar 2023 #81

The pictures of Emmett Till are still out there. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #89

I know they do inthewind21 Mar 2023 #92

Same response over and over again year after year. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #98

I remember being taught about "blue laws". jaxexpat Mar 2023 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Mar 2023 #62

I remember inthewind21 Mar 2023 #64

Wow! I rarely get misunderstood quite as enthusiastically. jaxexpat Mar 2023 #66

I didn't inthewind21 Mar 2023 #82

Blue laws intelpug Mar 2023 #72

We had prohibition. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #75

Yes, we did inthewind21 Mar 2023 #83

It was repealed because jury nullification. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #90

Not completely inthewind21 Mar 2023 #94

Prohibition intelpug Mar 2023 #84

The 2nd is an amendment to our constitution just like prohibition was an amendment. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #91

Answer the question inthewind21 Mar 2023 #93

Wow I feel like I am in 6th grade The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #97

Never going to happen Calculating Mar 2023 #73

Not going to happen, and even proposing it is a waste of time. GaYellowDawg Mar 2023 #76

"The thing that has changed has been the culture. In the early/late 80's, guns were a tool." Zeitghost Mar 2023 #77

The 1st amendment needs a little tweaking to. fescuerescue Mar 2023 #95

If it's moot, then it doesn't need to be repeals. SYFROYH Mar 2023 #96

The sun is too hot. We need to cool it off and thereby end global warming Bucky Mar 2023 #101