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nadinbrzezinski

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174. Polly, do you want a cracker?

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:24 PM

Nov 2012

For the record my two parrots make more sense, they avoid things they are indifferent to.

Now go on, tell me again, I make no sense.

This has to be a comedy routine of some kind. I mean, it is funny in a tragic way.

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Let's Not Forget OWS... [View all] WiffenPoof Nov 2012 OP

I had to start ignoring Occupy stuff due to all the "OBAMA IS JUST AS BAD YOU FOOLS!" redqueen Nov 2012 #1

Are you suggesting that OWS was libertarian? That doesnt make sense. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #4

It didn't happen. Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #8

I cant imagine libertarians protesting Wall Street. I just find it sad that some Democrats rhett o rick Nov 2012 #13

Libertarians PETRUS Nov 2012 #28

Yes, I think they wanted the attention. Cant see them wanting more Wall Street regulations. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #75

No, but down here they seemed to be overrun with those types. redqueen Nov 2012 #16

I think that happened in certain cities. PETRUS Nov 2012 #31

Left-libertarian. But I notice everyone on this thread is talking about us in the past tense. Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #55

That is hilarious nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #9

Really? What were you reading that gave you that incorrect perception? OWS sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #24

This kind of disinformation is why I don't recommend DU to anyone anymore... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #34

Yes, it's very embarrassing, I agree. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #49

A lot of people rely on MSM and tv news here. mattclearing Nov 2012 #109

There's been a vocal (very) few pushing the LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #48

Yes, but the written declaration of what OWS stands for makes it clear that they sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #52

I wrote it off as part of the same disinformation campaign LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #53

I agree. What do you think of Democrats that help spread this disinformation? rhett o rick Nov 2012 #76

Simple...it is a clear and present threat to the system nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #82

"...young people in scruffy beards..." WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #180

Thank you. You can say it so much better than I. I completely agree. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #59

OWS is strictly non-partisan and supports no candidate or party. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #47

What a ridiculous and baseless slur on a social justice movement that changed coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #81

Once the saane people stopped going to GAs, OWS was nothing but the crazy people, and no they didn't roseBudd Nov 2012 #160

So the members of the Central Committee of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #166

You are correct OLDMDDEM Nov 2012 #2

They were never dead they were busy doing things to benefit people. They were only dead sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #26

They are a growing movement still in its infancy LeftInTX Nov 2012 #32

I'm so glad OLDMDDEM Nov 2012 #206

bingo.... before OWS nobody was talking about income inequality!! oldhippydude Nov 2012 #3

Yeah. Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #5

Nope. Never, ever. HappyMe Nov 2012 #6

What's your beef with "no political affiliation"... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #29

Don't forget, not every one respects MLK. But thanks for the post, OWS has huge respect sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #50

This is embarrasing nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #11

Well, Nadin ... Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #15

Wow. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #25

We've had this discussion before, Rhett Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #33

OWS didn't start the debate Downtown Hound Nov 2012 #42

Well, if we're going to offer anecdotal evidence Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #56

If you go back through the archives here, to say 2008, you will posts announcing how sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #106

And Kamela Harris in CA credited them for the nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #107

You arent fooling anyone. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #60

Yep. As transparent as the air on a crystal clear desert morning. Zorra Nov 2012 #198

You have an excellent imagination nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #38

When it comes to having an imagination, Nadin Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #61

Summer, this isn't achieving anything. sibelian Nov 2012 #65

I would wholeheartedly agree with you, sibelian Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #68

That's a interesting point... sibelian Nov 2012 #72

Yup, that is why I see them for they are nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #79

How about we credit them with making it more mainstream, then? sibelian Nov 2012 #63

I give OWS all credit due Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #70

I can understand the RightWingers disparaging OWS, but I dont understand rhett o rick Nov 2012 #12

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #14

And I don't understand Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #17

So are you saying that you support OWS? nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #19

They Brought That Attention...To Critical Mass !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #20

Do you honestly believe Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #27

Believe Me... I'm Not The One Who Should Be Worried About Looking Ridiculous... WillyT Nov 2012 #35

Again you go on the assumption Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #39

No... What I'm Assuming... Is That Many Voters Thought That That Was Just The Way It Is... WillyT Nov 2012 #41

Sorry, WillyT Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #43

they made it socially acceptable to discuss it openly. sibelian Nov 2012 #64

Sorry, but the topic Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #69

Well, my experience doesn't bear that out. sibelian Nov 2012 #73

Where was it discussed? On the media? Do you have links to all this discussion sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #113

As always, you're right, sabrina Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #135

Yes people did discuss it. And no one, including OWS ever said otherwise. You are sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #186

Once again you try to change the argument. No one is claiming that OWS was the first rhett o rick Nov 2012 #117

Yet again Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #129

For someone who is indifferent you have quite a fixation, really nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #143

I am indifferent to OWS Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #145

And you have a good imagination nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #148

Nadin Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #161

What makes no sense to you? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #164

If you were "indifferent" you wouldnt post so many anti-OWS posts. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #178

I admit I often allow myself Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #179

Be careful painting with too broad a brush. All protests attract anarchists, communists, rhett o rick Nov 2012 #182

Nobody speaks for OWS. That's the point. randome Nov 2012 #183

I dont agree with your logic. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #184

Actually, that claim is complete bullshit. woo me with science Nov 2012 #201

please stop apologizing for the 1% argiel1234 Nov 2012 #140

My answer is a simple one Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #144

by pissing and shitting on everyone on this thread argiel1234 Nov 2012 #147

Thanks for proving my point Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #149

you have questioned and shit on ever post in this thread argiel1234 Nov 2012 #151

Again, I invite you Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #157

And, really? Capitalism lost? randome Nov 2012 #150

sorry but its NOt ok to profit off of people anymore argiel1234 Nov 2012 #155

The truth, however, is that hundreds of millions of people are quite content with Capitalism. randome Nov 2012 #158

hundreds of millions dont live under violent capitalism argiel1234 Nov 2012 #162

"Mitt and Capitalism lost" Chathamization Nov 2012 #167

It seems to me that the OP is referring to the election cycle and the campaigners... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #23

But that's my point, LA Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #37

So where are all these people you are talking about? What did they accomplish? Did sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #110

Often, it's a Third Way thing. The Third Way values profit over people, and is trying to move the Zorra Nov 2012 #30

I knew it wouldn't be long Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #40

The Third Way is not a label. They exist, they have a website. They have an idealogy and sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #112

It's a "label" that has been affixed Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #133

Are you really saying that Third Way, who are very proud of their role in the Dem Party sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #138

Good grief, sabrina Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #141

'Idols' 'pedestals' sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #187

Thank you for your condescending and arrogant response Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #190

'Rapturous idolization of BBI', 'sacred cows, Greenwald, Assange and Occupy' sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #191

Your lack of self-awareness Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #192

Seriously, I'm flattered you remember our first encounter, I did not frankly. I knew sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #204

Democrats don't do the same Rhett so you are correct. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #108

David Wolff in his book Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #18

Who was talking about those things before Sept 2011? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #44

Of course, sabrina Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #54

Occupy's message is more relevent now than ever. Joe Shlabotnik Nov 2012 #7

They helped frame the issues so that the common voter Rex Nov 2012 #10

Yes, because no one would have realized Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #21

Yes... I think the "common voter" is pretty damned stupid, or has been living under a rock. WillyT Nov 2012 #22

Yep. Look what the Tea Party did..... LeftInTX Nov 2012 #36

OWS could have been a response Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #51

Voting is not very effective in itself. I'm sorry you don't understand but civil rights movement etc Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #57

Do you not think Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #67

I don't think it's healthy for civil rights movement to be perceived as a monolithic voting block Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #74

OWS never changed its goals. . sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #114

Well, helping out Hurricane Sandy victims and buying up debt... randome Nov 2012 #115

How exactly is that changing goals? That is what they have always done from the beginning. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #118

Neither one of us seems to 'get' the other. randome Nov 2012 #119

They are doing nothing they have not been doing from the beginning. The sad thing is sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #123

They have? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #116

Nadin Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #137

What? You claim goals were changed nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #146

They never presented themselves as apolitical. They presented themselves as nonpartisan & Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #58

I was responding to Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #62

And that is the problem nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #80

With all due respect, Nadin Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #83

I am not the one denying a certain universe of facts nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #84

Given how often you Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #85

What facts have I owned? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #87

The "facts" you have owned Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #89

Well, I swear from your posts nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #90

Funny to get a lecture on science Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #93

Funny since the video has since emerged nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #94

Finally there is video?! zappaman Nov 2012 #96

Seriously, Nadin Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #97

But you keep making shit up nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #98

We know PLENTY about you based on how very nasty you are just in this thread. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #165

The only people using the word 'hate' is you and a few others with you. randome Nov 2012 #168

Links, please? Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #170

So why are you still hanging around? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #172

At your own request Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #173

Polly, do you want a cracker? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #174

Yes, Nadin, I agree Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #175

Well, go on mrs Hathaway. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #176

You are far from indifferent to OWS. We have addressed this before. You are as indifferent sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #111

Not obvious to me Chathamization Nov 2012 #121

It is a LOOOONNNGGG history nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #122

Lol, welcome to DU. Summer despises OWS and always has. She has a right to do so. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #124

I was going to say you were right. randome Nov 2012 #125

Wow How Amazing For You To Just Land In This Thread HangOnKids Nov 2012 #132

Cheerleading? Chathamization Nov 2012 #136

OWS had a role Chathamization Nov 2012 #86

That will be a discussion held in academic circles nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #88

Perhaps Chathamization Nov 2012 #91

Talking academic nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #92

Academic is fine Chathamization Nov 2012 #95

Yup, agreed nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #99

We'll see what happens Chathamization Nov 2012 #102

They did here as well nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #103

The media says the opposite about OWS. In fact they ignored it for two weeks and sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #120

From what I remember Chathamization Nov 2012 #128

Actually it doesn't matter what the media does or does not do. But in the beginning they were sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #134

There was coverage in the first few days Chathamization Nov 2012 #142

Yeah, but as you pointed out nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #154

The Iraq war protests tended to be larger Chathamization Nov 2012 #159

My local paper is a good example nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #163

Hopefully Chathamization Nov 2012 #169

Right now it is really messy nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #171

I don't think I explained this very well. So, let me try again. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #185

A couple things Chathamization Nov 2012 #188

Actually it was the other way around. I follow a lot of the celebrities who showed up sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #193

Some did Chathamization Nov 2012 #195

The anti war protests lasted for a few hours on one day at a time. There are no numbers available sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #197

Those that were camping Chathamization Nov 2012 #199

Lol, of course they weren't that many. Although they were way more than anyone ever sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #203

Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #196

Exactly! sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #46

It will be nice to get back to discussing and working to change these issues: Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #45

That's a great list of things that need to be changed Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #71

OWS is at least resisting - they are not in a position of power TBF Nov 2012 #78

Better question, how are elected officials changing them? sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #126

Answering a question Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #131

OWS exists because nothing has been done about these issues you say everyone knew sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #139

Yes, I think OWS was a great deal more effective than most give it credit for. sibelian Nov 2012 #66

At the very least Occupy has folks actually talking about class - TBF Nov 2012 #77

As The Original Poster... WiffenPoof Nov 2012 #100

OWS is a lightning rod for debate. randome Nov 2012 #101

Thanks... WiffenPoof Nov 2012 #104

It isn't, only to those who have always opposed it. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #130

Occupy is Helping with Hurricane Sandy Relieve at the Moment AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #105

kick upi402 Nov 2012 #127

Not a chance 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #153

OccupyRaleigh is still active... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #156

Most don't Chathamization Nov 2012 #177

"stared blankly" WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #181

yeah , don't forget 4 t 4 Nov 2012 #194

Huh, I wasn't aware of the NMH and Sonic Youth connection to OWS. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #205

... Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #189

Forgotten. RiffRandell Nov 2012 #200

Huge K&R woo me with science Nov 2012 #202