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Texaswitchy

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218. Yep.

Tue May 16, 2023, 06:16 PM

May 2023

Exactly.

The Civil Rights Movement and the Women Rights Movement mean nothing to them.

If the Gen Z crowd even knows about it

It took years and is still in progress.

Nothing is instant.

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A tweet from David Hogg to Sen. Chuck Schumer [View all] AntivaxHunters May 2023 OP

Young people are tired of excuses. MontanaMama May 2023 #1

Really, young people should learn how the governments works. Instead of attacking Schumer, he Demsrule86 May 2023 #16

'They were told to vote and that is how change happens and they did. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #24

Did he send a letter to Mitch McConnell? Republicans are standing in the way of gun control. emulatorloo May 2023 #32

Exactly. And David Hogg knows full well how government works. edisdead May 2023 #44

That's a waste of time. Our side needs to keep beating the drum! Pisces May 2023 #67

we are all worried about guns. edisdead May 2023 #147

This message was self-deleted by its author Alpeduez21 May 2023 #240

How exactly is that going to work? Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #128

And pushing the idea that voting didn't work IS going to help? edisdead May 2023 #151

+1 betsuni May 2023 #153

That won't help. McConnell knows that youth won't vote GQP either way - too many othe objections TeamProg May 2023 #117

I think continuous voting to end assault weapons might have a good effect for our country Maraya1969 May 2023 #144

Is Mitch MConnell Senate majority leader? progressoid May 2023 #149

Damn good question. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #206

"Establishment" sheshe2 May 2023 #238

Return home, find your family eaten and everything destroyed, see a tiger and a kittycat inside. betsuni May 2023 #252

Nobody should have to be told to go vote, I voted every time I'm exhausted Walleye May 2023 #42

Right, it is not just vote once and treestar May 2023 #102

Really, after all these years we have to fight for our reproductive rights again, we have no choice Walleye May 2023 #103

It's not like Hogg is a brand new Gen Z voter Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #129

Parkland was 5 years ago. bottomofthehill May 2023 #138

1789-1919 ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #163

Yes, but injustices aren't some pro sport. intheflow May 2023 #219

I'm assuming you aren't familiar with this person. They are a survivor of the Parkland shooting. ramen May 2023 #221

I have exactly ZERO respect, empathy, or concern for anyone who doesn't vote The Mouth May 2023 #197

AMEN! Unca Jim May 2023 #100

they said they would bring a bill over and over? treestar May 2023 #101

Politics is about service, isn't it? Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #130

No inthewind21 May 2023 #142

Yes Texaswitchy May 2023 #207

Is that any different than any adult? LakeArenal May 2023 #124

But they aren't getting what they want anyway? Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #131

Don't vote inthewind21 May 2023 #143

Exactly. Texaswitchy May 2023 #210

Well Madison UW students turned out 90%. LakeArenal May 2023 #155

They'll never get it if they'd rather piss and moan ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #165

He's getting inthewind21 May 2023 #208

How do we pass a bill without it passing the house and the senate? edisdead May 2023 #213

Other people voted too. And those other people elected Republicans in some places. BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #172

Ummm, they are voting ... for Dems. KPN May 2023 #57

He's only stating the facts. Ignoring facts is a sure-fire way to help the GOP win. jaxexpat May 2023 #58

Maybe inthewind21 May 2023 #66

Which Democrats are ignoring gun control? I would like to contact them. emulatorloo May 2023 #77

Ignoring facts, ignoring voters, ignoring history? betsuni May 2023 #92

Their too spoiled and pampered arses, that's where ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #166

Well, his own parents are Republicans JI7 May 2023 #250

Exactly inthewind21 May 2023 #64

+1 betsuni May 2023 #91

Sorry, but politics as usual on the Democratic side just doesn't cut it anymore. lees1975 May 2023 #256

I'm a Boomer. Our version of being tired of excuses wnylib May 2023 #25

they are just part of the electorate treestar May 2023 #99

Of course they are there to be served. That's was politics is. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #135

So are we old people. calimary May 2023 #111

+1 betsuni May 2023 #113

Ask him if knows where the magic wand is. Happy Hoosier May 2023 #126

If only we had control of both houses of congress and the White House at some point recently. progressoid May 2023 #160

When did Democrats have supermajorities with every Democrat voting the same recently? betsuni May 2023 #162

For what? progressoid May 2023 #175

Very well spoken. I'm impressed so much by this young man. NT SWBTATTReg May 2023 #2

Impressed ? That he attacks a Democrat on this issue. Where is his tweet to McConnell? What Demsrule86 May 2023 #17

If you don't think he has made his point clear to Repubicans Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #28

Makes it as clear as Jill Stein does. edisdead May 2023 #55

Bingo inthewind21 May 2023 #68

Bullshit. progressoid May 2023 #157

well that isn't what I said either. edisdead May 2023 #159

Oh, maybe he should say, "pretty please?" progressoid May 2023 #164

Good grief ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #177

Speaking of condescending... progressoid May 2023 #179

just what exactly would you have Chuck Schumer do? edisdead May 2023 #189

It's not tearing Democrats apart. progressoid May 2023 #191

What voices have not been heard? edisdead May 2023 #193

+1 betsuni May 2023 #195

I'm not saying voices aren't being heard. But apparently Hogg's voice is pissing a lot of people off progressoid May 2023 #196

Uh huh inthewind21 May 2023 #211

Truth. edisdead May 2023 #215

WHat attack??? FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #48

Reality is treestar May 2023 #104

The attack is making the argument that he did his part now he should have gotten what he wanted. edisdead May 2023 #194

The republicans already KNOW this, that's why they are looking at ways to suppress the youth vote Zipgun May 2023 #49

It's not just their issues that count treestar May 2023 #105

He literally watched his friends get shot in front of him. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #134

As have inthewind21 May 2023 #148

Nice to see you are doubling down on his Harvard political science degree being bad. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #161

Well, I really inthewind21 May 2023 #217

I have seen some horrible things in my life to Texaswitchy May 2023 #203

"in my life to" what Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #237

You call his message an attack? I'd say that it's just a young voter sending his thoughts to the SWBTATTReg May 2023 #125

Fair enough. It is also hyperbolic to call Democrats 'cowards' and 'fear the NRA.' emulatorloo May 2023 #167

Well if you consider a hissy fit to be "well-spoken," ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #168

He is right about this. mountain grammy May 2023 #3

Here, Here! Picaro May 2023 #4

He speaks 100% spoiled brat whingeing ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #174

Yep. Texaswitchy May 2023 #218

I can't wait 'til he is old enough to run for office. lastlib May 2023 #5

In the state of Florida BumRushDaShow May 2023 #76

And, he could run at the local level. LisaM May 2023 #93

Yup and agree BumRushDaShow May 2023 #97

Excellent points. I hope he gets some constructive suggestions like this. ancianita May 2023 #242

I can't wait until he holds an office and learns treestar May 2023 #106

I agree completely!!! Why won't dems go BIG?!! Our elected reps should be unabashedly radical! rainin May 2023 #6

How do we go big without sufficient numbers of Democrats? Try not attacking Democrats and voting for Demsrule86 May 2023 #19

power concedes nothing without a demand Celerity May 2023 #23

We have get the numbers period. Demsrule86 May 2023 #26

Taking the overall stance that flows from your logic, we may well never would have even tried to Celerity May 2023 #33

Baloney. edisdead May 2023 #223

Maybe try serving the people who vote for them? FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #50

Newsflash inthewind21 May 2023 #73

what else should be brought up repeatedly? treestar May 2023 #110

It's their future and they want a seat at the table. Better listen.. Deuxcents May 2023 #7

Then run for election. Demsrule86 May 2023 #27

So now the goal posts have moved from voting to running for office? Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #29

lol inthewind21 May 2023 #75

That's what you have to do to have influence treestar May 2023 #112

Where were they in 2016 when the SC was at stake? A slight majority in the Senate, with Manchin JohnSJ May 2023 #115

THAT is the inthewind21 May 2023 #127

Yeah, stupid sophomores in high school not doing anything. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #183

Yes inthewind21 May 2023 #222

In some high school sophomore class, if my math is right. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #181

He does realize the Senate has a mere 51-49 D majority SouthBayDem May 2023 #8

His tweet to Schumer indicates that wnylib May 2023 #36

I am pretty sure most "younger voters" realize that Democrats are for gun reform legislation. It JohnSJ May 2023 #122

Younger voters would not remember that history of gun control. wnylib May 2023 #145

So inthewind21 May 2023 #154

Huge K&R. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2023 #9

Who doesn't know that it's Republicans that oppose gun control ? JI7 May 2023 #10

Voter apathy isn't a thing that occurs out of thin air or laziness msfiddlestix May 2023 #34

it's Republicans that are preventing gun control. JI7 May 2023 #61

Of course it is, but that isn't in dispute. msfiddlestix May 2023 #259

Oh but it is inthewind21 May 2023 #81

Totally singing and yelling at the choir. msfiddlestix May 2023 #260

Republican enthusiasm treestar May 2023 #116

Im not an apathetic voter..I know what is always at stakjel I have ever missed a election msfiddlestix May 2023 #178

It is laziness , ignorance , and inflated Ego JI7 May 2023 #247

After the Parkland shooting and when Mr. Hogg testified in front of Congress some members of either Botany May 2023 #11

I agree. cksmithy May 2023 #186

100% agreed. Thanks for saying it better than I might have lol!! halobeam May 2023 #212

uh oh, he called Schumer and cohort "establishment Democrats" SYFROYH May 2023 #12

Being against the establishment is so 1960s Walleye May 2023 #46

"Hogg is well intentioned, but maybe he ought to tweet Kevin McCarthy or Mitch McConnell too." J_William_Ryan May 2023 #13

More power to him and his young followers. Reasons, read excuses, are a dime a dozen. Magoo48 May 2023 #14

So you think attacking Democrats who want to fix guns is helpful? I do not. Demsrule86 May 2023 #21

And as usual ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #171

Exactly inthewind21 May 2023 #226

Right because we don't need no stinking majority to pass bills. Demsrule86 May 2023 #30

our peril? treestar May 2023 #118

I doubt they'd turn to Republicans. There are other options which exclude Democrats. Magoo48 May 2023 #233

not realistic ones treestar May 2023 #257

K&R spanone May 2023 #15

Probably because the younger generation is intheflow May 2023 #18

Are they really? Maybe they should understand that we need to toss out Republicans Demsrule86 May 2023 #22

++++. Very tiresome that some people falsely blame Democrats for what Republicans do. emulatorloo May 2023 #37

Thank you! This is why we find ourselves in this position.... Demsrule86 May 2023 #65

+1 betsuni May 2023 #96

Exactly! edisdead May 2023 #228

LITEREALLY inthewind21 May 2023 #85

You can call it blame or you could consider it constructive criticism. intheflow May 2023 #146

it's life and the system and treestar May 2023 #119

And yet, this particular system is a human construct. intheflow May 2023 #150

Good grief ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #170

Good grief. intheflow May 2023 #198

Well inthewind21 May 2023 #227

I voted for Clinton in 2016 so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. n/t intheflow May 2023 #229

Well inthewind21 May 2023 #231

kick for visibility! Celerity May 2023 #20

Interestingly, bringing the AWB to vote will increase sales of ARs. SYFROYH May 2023 #31

By that logic... AntivaxHunters May 2023 #40

It does. SYFROYH May 2023 #45

I think it's time for action AntivaxHunters May 2023 #78

The time inthewind21 May 2023 #88

Would have you offered the same counsel in regards to Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts during the Celerity May 2023 #43

I don't see legal sales of guns as the same category of race hate-driven violence. SYFROYH May 2023 #51

My goal is to reduce the number of guns...ban automatic weapons and get an amendment through Demsrule86 May 2023 #69

The 'there are too many battle weapons out across the fruited plain' horse has already left the barn Celerity May 2023 #70

they passed because the votes were there treestar May 2023 #120

They passed those knowing it would wipe them out. They should at least force the Rethugs to go on Celerity May 2023 #133

Get some brass balls, Dems, and just do it! ananda May 2023 #35

And Get some brass balls voters, vote out the Republicans who are blocking gun control. emulatorloo May 2023 #38

Tell me how? We do that now...what is your plan...what actions do you suggest that would actually Demsrule86 May 2023 #60

Don't mess with Gen Z. liberalmuse May 2023 #39

Right...I guess every generation has to make their own mistakes. This sort of division will merely Demsrule86 May 2023 #62

"if YOU make US lose enthusiasm" Hortensis May 2023 #41

Public sentiment is everything Walleye May 2023 #47

For some all through life. And most Gen Z are still adolescents, Hortensis May 2023 #53

Public sentiment is mostly on our side. The bullies are running things Walleye May 2023 #56

Good point. In the end, only whether and for whom WE vote matters. Hortensis May 2023 #86

Exactly, it's really quite simple when we think about it Walleye May 2023 #95

I can think of at least one thing that isn't going to change the situation: Act_of_Reparation May 2023 #188

I don't know, going out to vote seems pretty simple to me and the minimum a citizen can do Walleye May 2023 #190

Who said anything about voters being "too old"? Act_of_Reparation May 2023 #216

I meant, poorly expressed, that 18-year-old voters are not children, we shouldn't scold them Walleye May 2023 #220

David Hogg is smart enough to know you don't communicate with the Senate Leader by Tweet brooklynite May 2023 #52

He's also smart enough to know how social media works and how you persuade through it. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #136

IOW he DIDN'T write a letter to Schumer... brooklynite May 2023 #139

Do you want a quick lesson on primary, secondary, and tertiary audiences Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #140

Deliberately obtuse. intheflow May 2023 #152

And you are smart enough to know how public pressure works through social media. intheflow May 2023 #156

It is not up to Schumer to tell Gen Zers that their votes mstter. Beastly Boy May 2023 #54

It is also why dems need to run candidates in every race, particularly the state races Bev54 May 2023 #59

And how many times do I hear complaints about Democratic fundraising or an annoncement that Demsrule86 May 2023 #63

I agree but I do think a lot is on the dems in charge in the states. Look at NY Bev54 May 2023 #82

Well inthewind21 May 2023 #94

I did not blame Schumer at all, perhaps you can read it again. Bev54 May 2023 #132

Republicans would do what Hogg says: bring the vote to the floor CousinIT May 2023 #71

Right! Like when they voted 10,000 times to repeal Obamacare. tritsofme May 2023 #199

I will always remember when he was hounded by MTG and he showed such grace and control. flying_wahini May 2023 #72

Agree. She is such a bully, and he stood up to her. emulatorloo May 2023 #74

Unfortunately beathimlikeadrum May 2023 #79

I really disagree AntivaxHunters May 2023 #83

You mean inthewind21 May 2023 #107

Wait, are you seriously saying that the man who is a senior at Harvard Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author intheflow May 2023 #158

He doesn't understand how government works? Nonsense Autumn May 2023 #235

This doesn't seem like an "attack" to me democrank May 2023 #80

Well, now, some of the responses to David Hogg's tweet are certainly eye-openers. Biophilic May 2023 #84

I do like your idea. But curious, what is the connection to Democrats and young voters in Florida emulatorloo May 2023 #90

Not much, I confess, but I've been stymied as to what happened to the Democrats in Florida. Biophilic May 2023 #98

Thanks very much for the long reply. Really appreciate it. emulatorloo May 2023 #173

Always good to have an opportunity to rethink ideas. Biophilic May 2023 #205

If the Democratic party brings the AWB up kacekwl May 2023 #87

So "establishment Democrats" don't know young people vote, don't listen, take betsuni May 2023 #89

K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg May 2023 #108

What did they do in 2016 when the Supreme Court was at stake Mr. Hogg? Mr. Hogg, in except JohnSJ May 2023 #109

Yep Texaswitchy May 2023 #204

Do they think of themselves as Democrats? Walleye May 2023 #114

I don't think they know what they are. Texaswitchy May 2023 #202

David Hogg is wise beyond his years. Cyrano May 2023 #121

One who cannot self-criticize cannot grow Sympthsical May 2023 #123

The Republicans already Know Mimi Susi May 2023 #141

I assume Hogg knows full well that with a GOP House and slim Senate majority... BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #169

Voting over and over might only feed into the bullshit that Democrats are "ignoring" "not fighting" betsuni May 2023 #180

I feel like in online forums the word "performative" gets brought up a lot... BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #182

I feel like for some that's what politics is JI7 May 2023 #249

Because "incrementalism" is immoral. betsuni May 2023 #255

Well said David malaise May 2023 #176

He's right... +1. n/t demmiblue May 2023 #184

I love his passion, but we currently have a two party system & our side doesn't have the majorities CrispyQ May 2023 #185

Yes Texaswitchy May 2023 #224

My family and I are those 'moderates' Calculating May 2023 #187

I don't have a problem with this at all. Any advice that anyone can think of and offer is worth it. NowsTheTime May 2023 #192

I think David Hogg is a closet Republican, noticed he attacks Democrats. Texaswitchy May 2023 #200

He is a gun massacre survivor. intheflow May 2023 #225

Post removed Post removed May 2023 #230

He's young. He knows Democrats are safe to criticize because they listen & do the best they can. ancianita May 2023 #246

I think Gen Z is more democratic that republican...& they have more to lose than old cogers like me NowsTheTime May 2023 #253

He's an Our Revolution/Justice Democrats type, thinks the Democratic Party must be taken over betsuni May 2023 #254

Aside from anything else, it's a dumb idea. tritsofme May 2023 #201

That strategy is exactly what the GOP did on banning abortion: held countless votes to ban it. Sogo May 2023 #209

I approve this message. Evolve Dammit May 2023 #214

The level of bigotry against young people in this thread is disgusting. intheflow May 2023 #232

No kidding. demmiblue May 2023 #234

DU doesn't attract young people because they are doing other things JI7 May 2023 #248

To see him called ignorant is way over the line. Autumn May 2023 #236

Yet, it's easily predicted. n/t Alpeduez21 May 2023 #241

K&R Blue Owl May 2023 #239

I remember reading something around here (can't remember the poster, sorry) about politics being ancianita May 2023 #243

So this guy thinks Schumer is a coward? BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #244

After all this time Hogg doesn't know about the filibuster? Takket May 2023 #245

Can you please link this? Texasgal May 2023 #251

Why Schumer? Patton French May 2023 #258