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In reply to the discussion: Is Industrial Society on the Verge of Collapse? [View all]hunter
(38,472 posts)30. The problem is that fossil fuels ARE NOT RUNNING OUT.
I used to be extremely optimistic about "peak oil." Bring it on, the sooner the better!
Alas, we now know there's more than enough coal, gas, and oil to completely obliterate the natural world as we know it.
I consider natural gas the greatest threat to our civilization, mostly because people think it's "clean" and it's an essential component of their renewable energy fantasies.
I'm not a person who thinks, "Oh, well, billions of people are going to suffer and die and it probably won't be me, so whatever. That's just the way it is."
We know what we have to do, so let's do it.
Be an example of what your want your neighbors to be.
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Heavy crude oils, which are essentially gooey tar, are cracked and hydrogenated to make gasoline...
hunter
Aug 2023
#52
Yes, we're on the verge of collapse & no, our elites won't perform any better than past elites.
CrispyQ
Aug 2023
#4
Derp. Simp for the patriarchy elsewhere. "Fall" is a Eurocentric narrative. Period.
HardPort
Aug 2023
#60