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Zeitghost

(3,663 posts)
100. It's actually the opposite
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 11:38 PM
Nov 2023

The Palestinian Authority/Fatah who is in control of Palestinian areas of Judea and Samaria (and in theory Gaza) will not allow elections because Hamas would win in a landslide. There is wide public support of Hamas.

happy to be the 1st rec WarGamer Nov 2023 #1
Some people, especially Israel's right wing, wouldn't mind for sure. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2023 #2
I agree completely. David__77 Nov 2023 #3
Then vs Now Thinker Cats Nov 2023 #4
Simpler time enid602 Nov 2023 #105
The US is also not a monolith, but for 4 years...... jaxexpat Nov 2023 #43
True but here's the problem. AloeVera Nov 2023 #68
Hamas is the elected ruling party of Gaza TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #5
But your comment is irrelevant to the OP WarGamer Nov 2023 #6
The large majority were not of voting age the last time there were elections. Close to a majority weren't even born! David__77 Nov 2023 #7
The point is that Hamas is the elected ruling party TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #8
To assume this is true for a moment: what's your point? David__77 Nov 2023 #10
The point is clear TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #11
I just wondered if you cared to state it clearly rather than by implication. David__77 Nov 2023 #15
The point is that support for Hamas makes you a legitimate military target. Lucky Luciano Nov 2023 #70
My understanding is that combatants, specifically, are legitimate military targets. David__77 Nov 2023 #72
Can you verify that... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #21
From the Jerusalem Post TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #23
Well, obviously, those 2 polls... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #29
I don't know enough either TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #30
It could be video of anything... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #36
Please tell me you aren't claiming TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #47
There have been multiple verifications... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #55
Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank strongly support Hamas, October 7 attack Cha Nov 2023 #62
You are trying to make it black & white womanofthehills Nov 2023 #96
Your post #7 and the article don't agree. yagotme Nov 2023 #77
Most of the people who were first generation refugees are dead. David__77 Nov 2023 #79
Increase is approx. 6x. If original refugees are dead, that's a HECK of a birthrate, right there... nt yagotme Nov 2023 #80
Yes, there has been population growth. David__77 Nov 2023 #82
Population growth at a factor of 6x. With a high death rate? yagotme Nov 2023 #83
CSIS link related to this: David__77 Nov 2023 #86
"Estimates." Again, I have suspicions. yagotme Nov 2023 #101
True womanofthehills Nov 2023 #97
I think as people get older, they may often lose perspective of how quickly the world changes. David__77 Nov 2023 #98
It has been 75 years. Where do you think they are? whopis01 Nov 2023 #90
Of course, it also ignores the nearly equal number of Jews who fled or were expelled from Arab countries tritsofme Nov 2023 #92
I don't quite see how that follows what I said whopis01 Nov 2023 #93
Logic. yagotme Nov 2023 #102
You appear to be questioning points I did not make whopis01 Nov 2023 #107
Your post: yagotme Nov 2023 #108
It is not irrelevant TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #9
So you're advocating for the entire population to be treated as enemy combatants? WarGamer Nov 2023 #12
Wow TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #13
I would argue that the way the war is being waged... WarGamer Nov 2023 #19
So..... Red Mountain Nov 2023 #24
I would hope that people smarter than I would figure it out. WarGamer Nov 2023 #31
Hamas' murderers are literally TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #50
wait for them to leave? WarGamer Nov 2023 #51
And what if they don't leave? TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #54
How many people are you willing to see Israel kill? Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #56
Good deflection TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #61
You are projecting to avoid answering the question. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #64
Let's try reversing this sentence, and see what happens: yagotme Nov 2023 #78
In the aftermath of WWII, Mr. Evil Nov 2023 #53
And Israel was the "new country" that should not have been founded? elias7 Nov 2023 #88
If Israel is so good at limiting civilian deaths womanofthehills Nov 2023 #99
Yes, because, if Israel wanted to, they could actually carpet-bomb Gaza. yagotme Nov 2023 #103
Do you think they are? Red Mountain Nov 2023 #22
No, I don't... WarGamer Nov 2023 #25
I don't think you understand the difference TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #32
they don't live underground 24/7/365... WarGamer Nov 2023 #34
How is that a solution that protects Israel? TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #37
Not apples to apples Red Mountain Nov 2023 #33
The point I was making... is that the IDF has the capability to strike individual fighters. WarGamer Nov 2023 #35
What are "Hamas' citizens"? David__77 Nov 2023 #17
Good catch. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #38
The truth is a lot different than what you think. patphil Nov 2023 #16
Hamas won the vote TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #18
17 years ago! And then they drove the opposition party out of Gaza. patphil Nov 2023 #69
It was actually Fatah who feared Hamas would also beat them in the West Bank, as well as Gaza tritsofme Nov 2023 #91
It's actually the opposite Zeitghost Nov 2023 #100
I might add that Trump was the elected leader of the United States and thus represents all of us? LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #42
Elimination enid602 Nov 2023 #59
You might want to re-think this phrase: yagotme Nov 2023 #104
What happens if no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #14
That's a lot of hypotheticals in one post Red Mountain Nov 2023 #26
This separate and apart from the October 7 attack by Hamas. no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #41
Apparently, the WB settlers has grander ideas. Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #27
Please tell me that's a fringe case redqueen Nov 2023 #45
This interview is with Daniella Weiss, Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #63
Here's what Hamas wants, no "secrets" about it TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #28
K&R Goddessartist Nov 2023 #20
and many of us have long been sick of the entire dispute Skittles Nov 2023 #39
I don't think Hamas' murders are about religion TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #52
Rodney King had it right Skittles Nov 2023 #75
Have you ever made an OP that only was negative about Hamas? NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #40
Targeted attack of a long time DUer much? The_Casual_Observer Nov 2023 #67
A question NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #71
Poor form n/t leftstreet Nov 2023 #73
Questioning a total one-sided poster? NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #74
Where in DU's TOS does it say "both siderism please?" leftstreet Nov 2023 #76
I'll say what the hell I want. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #81
Oh, okay n/t leftstreet Nov 2023 #84
The UN started something in 1947 that wasn't ever going to work out. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #44
The Arabs didn't say "Go away!" Autumn_Angler Nov 2023 #57
Seems like the Palestinians would like a bunch of Palestinians out of Palestine. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #46
Yes, and I don't think the bombs are going to help them. David__77 Nov 2023 #48
Total non-sequitor NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #49
You're only going to get evasion from that poster. n/t Autumn_Angler Nov 2023 #58
I know. NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #60
A factual account delivered by a legit source. Nuff said The_Casual_Observer Nov 2023 #65
All Fall Down Redux moniss Nov 2023 #66
There is no good guy - bad guy in this war. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #85
One thing about the tactic of keeping the Palestinian people in poverty to get rid of them. Uncle Joe Nov 2023 #87
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2023 #89
Truth comes out LiberaBlueDem Nov 2023 #94
In the short term, the fight is against resumption of the bombardment. David__77 Nov 2023 #95
This is an opinion piece TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #106
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