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In reply to the discussion: How hard is it to condemn Hamas' rape of Israeli women, Rep. Jayapal? [View all]ecstatic
(34,506 posts)If there are sides. I think we're all on the same side.
I understand the anger and outrage at what may appear to be flippant responses to Israeli women being raped. Let me be 100% clear: The violent and deadly attack on October 7th was horrible and inexcusable. The raping of Israeli women is an absolutely terrible war crime! No ifs ands or buts about it. The taunting and harassment of Jewish people in this country and other countries is antisemitism. Period!
All of that said, it would be really nice if everyone walked away from this conversation with a little bit of self-awareness, which would mean acknowledging that the same anger and outrage is felt on the other side when any reference to thousands of Palestinians women and children being bombed and killed is dismissed or deflected with a reference to "hamas."
15,000+ Palestinians, mostly women and children, have been killed!
Yeah, but hamas.
Proportionally, 15,000 killed in Gaza is equivalent to over 2.4 million Americans. Can you imagine if another country killed that many of us in response to the actions of American terrorists? Would it be okay?
I'm not bringing this up to be another "yeah but" on this board, but because I'm hoping that maybe we can start listening to each other instead of talking at each other. I still believe that the vast majority of us are on the same side.
This conflict is so horrifying and the worldwide fallout is also disgusting to watch. Democrats and progressives seem to be turning against each other. Comments are being taken out of context for the purpose of silencing or demonizing the other. The pain is real. The entire situation is awful and what really sucks is that this might be what provides the opening for trump to get back in office!