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MadameButterfly

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42. Remember the people who were carrying tikki torches and chanting 'Jews may not replace me"

Mon Dec 4, 2023, 07:00 PM

Dec 2023

are just fine with what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Antisemetism and objection to Israel's actions must be assessed separately.

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Is criticism of Israel antisemitic? [View all] WarGamer Dec 2023 OP

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Who is "they"? NCIndie Dec 2023 #4

Those in power to make decisions about the Palestinians ? WarGamer Dec 2023 #5

Those in power in Gaza paleotn Dec 2023 #34

Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #53

Hamas. They're talking about Hamas. Who else? AnrothElf Dec 2023 #64

The billionaire terrorists roosting in Qatar have the power lapucelle Dec 2023 #80

Israeli leaders like Netanyahu who has bowed to prevent Palestinians from ever having a state. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #19

Posts saying Israel has no right to exist would be deleted NCIndie Dec 2023 #20

We can't presume racism underlying any or every post that is expressing horror at mass casualties of any population MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #39

Agree 100% NCIndie Dec 2023 #43

Funny! That's not unlike the saying "When did you stop beating your wife?" Do you see what I mean? To create a scenario TeamProg Dec 2023 #47

It's nothing like that. NCIndie Dec 2023 #92

What I said is pretty much it. False accusations. TeamProg Dec 2023 #99

Sure. Have a conversation with yourself. NCIndie Dec 2023 #101

I would, but you keep talking! TeamProg Dec 2023 #108

Referring to Palestine as internment camps is antisemitic. yardwork Dec 2023 #32

Does that make terrorism OK? Just checking. paleotn Dec 2023 #37

There is very little in this paragraph marybourg Dec 2023 #49

The word "exterminating" when used to describe Israelis is considered antisemitic. yardwork Dec 2023 #29

Is there a rule that only non-Jews can be guilty of estermination? MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #38

It's not a rule. Human rights groups consider this usage to be antisemitic. yardwork Dec 2023 #40

The stated objective of Hamas is to exterminate Jews. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #66

The stated goal of Israeli govt. is to destroy Hamas MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #142

No that is Hezbollah territory TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #148

Ahhhh...Islamophobia raises it's ugly head. brush Dec 2023 #157

Hamas and its supporters certainly exist in the West Bank tritsofme Dec 2023 #151

Strawman Sympthsical Dec 2023 #2

I think the knuckle dragging Jew haters... the neo Nazis and extremists of all flavors are a small minority WarGamer Dec 2023 #3

Open your eyes. They are not some vanishingly small minority Sympthsical Dec 2023 #6

When yo look at someone in the street shouting abusive comments... WarGamer Dec 2023 #7

Can both be true? NCIndie Dec 2023 #8

Indie - It appears that you're new here. I gave up a long time ago trying to express sentiments like yours..... EarnestPutz Dec 2023 #127

It's gotten to where I cringe when someone says, "Welcome to DU" NCIndie Dec 2023 #130

You're welcome. EarnestPutz Dec 2023 #141

The Palestinian problem gives them the excuse that they need to justify their hatred. GoneOffShore Dec 2023 #12

Exactly my thoughts Mossfern Dec 2023 #28

Look, you're just advertising you're unfamiliar with this stuff Sympthsical Dec 2023 #70

Sympthsical -- just wanted to thank you for your contributions to this thread Hekate Dec 2023 #73

Thanks, I appreciate it Sympthsical Dec 2023 #74

Boom. yardwork Dec 2023 #121

They are taking JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #71

The Netherlands? Is it acceptable to be racist in Holland? brush Dec 2023 #158

When yo look at someone in the street shouting abusive comments Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #90

Worse has happened in Yemen, Syria , and many other places JI7 Dec 2023 #102

The U.S. abandoned our allies the Kurds to likely genocide. yardwork Dec 2023 #122

Absolutely. It ain't who or how many are being killed...it's who's doing the killing that has everyone's hair on fire. CincyDem Dec 2023 #156

No, I must not. It all spends the same. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #149

Or are they clueless. And know zero of any history NoRethugFriends Dec 2023 #153

Why do you think that is? Chainfire Dec 2023 #16

and for the survivors, their whole world is destroyed. MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #45

Germany JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #72

A lot of money, education, and an occupation by Allied forces went into that MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #144

They also JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #146

The non-Jewish Germans who cleaned up their act MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #160

I agree about Hamas and Nazis MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #161

Hamas terrorist billionaires living the high life in Qatar should pay. lapucelle Dec 2023 #129

Well, they should. is anyone going after them? MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #145

"15,000 women and children" Wow, so all the suspect numbers reported by Hamas are now just women & children? EX500rider Dec 2023 #54

Thank you for the correction. The generally reported number is 15,000 total deaths Chainfire Dec 2023 #112

I believe the numbers are a unknown EX500rider Dec 2023 #115

You dispute the numbers of killed, then what numbers would you suggest as an alternative? Chainfire Dec 2023 #125

As I said, as the only number come from a terrorist group with lots of reasons to lie it is unknown EX500rider Dec 2023 #132

Ok, that is your guess. Fair enough, are you happy with the thought that only 5,000 women and children Chainfire Dec 2023 #133

The relief orgs and the UN have just passed along Hamas numbers EX500rider Dec 2023 #134

I will not quibble with you over the exact number. The rest of the message is stil the same. Chainfire Dec 2023 #136

"It is a human disaster." Wars usually are EX500rider Dec 2023 #137

There is a rise in antisemetism but it's not the people you are attacking MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #51

I see antisemitism across the political spectrum today and in full view Kennah Dec 2023 #105

I hope you see the people who in solidarity with Jews are against it MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #143

Absolutely Kennah Dec 2023 #159

Talk to HAMAS they Violated the Ceasefire. Cha Dec 2023 #25

Obviously the number of antisemites is larger than you thought. yardwork Dec 2023 #30

Like the "compassion and empathy" toward random Jewish shopkeepers just selling falafels? Hekate Dec 2023 #76

I think the knuckle dragging Jew haters, the neo Nazis and extremists of all flavors Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #89

War is ugly... no doubt about that. Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #117

Remember the people who were carrying tikki torches and chanting 'Jews may not replace me" MadameButterfly Dec 2023 #42

The far left and far right bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #9

Nauseatingly true Hekate Dec 2023 #77

Referring to him as Nuttyahoo kind of diminishes your credentials as an expert on antisemitism. n/t CincyDem Dec 2023 #10

I'm not an expert... that's why I posted the linked article from an expert. WarGamer Dec 2023 #11

He is a fascist and a hardcore racist. David__77 Dec 2023 #13

I have not seen any - any at all Mossfern Dec 2023 #31

I haven't either. Not one. yardwork Dec 2023 #35

I support Bibi Kennah Dec 2023 #106

Don't forget... Behind the Aegis Dec 2023 #14

This Hekate Dec 2023 #78

Worst components of Godwin's Law are being realized Kennah Dec 2023 #107

No. MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #15

When they attack and deface a Jewish deli with anti-Semitic slurs, is that just "anti-Bibi"? tritsofme Dec 2023 #17

I am speaking for myself in my post. MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #88

Wait...is anyone here defending that disgusting action? electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #104

I believe most of the posts have been removed, but yes, it was quite a disgusting display tritsofme Dec 2023 #123

Ok. good. electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #140

The Israeli SC is a mess. Igel Dec 2023 #52

What they need to do is put together a bipartisan commission Mosby Dec 2023 #113

... lapucelle Dec 2023 #82

Israel didnt lock millions of people in an "open air prison". Mosby Dec 2023 #18

Gaza is an open-air prison. Israel controls their water, their food, the Internet, their lives. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #21

Does Israel control the Gaza border with Egypt? EX500rider Dec 2023 #57

Yes IronLionZion Dec 2023 #124

But I keep seeing JustAnotherGen Dec 2023 #69

A closed border is not a prison TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #162

The lies about 'genocide', 'war crimes' and 'open air prisons,' Tomconroy Dec 2023 #111

No. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. Are some people antisemitic? Yes. Autumn Dec 2023 #22

Happy to rec this post. yardwork Dec 2023 #27

Nope Faux pas Dec 2023 #23

Always the opposing teams Roy Rolling Dec 2023 #24

Sorry to be anal, but, no he did not. Oneironaut Dec 2023 #139

Criticism of Israel doesn't have to be antisemitic but lots of it is. yardwork Dec 2023 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2023 #33

No. Polly Hennessey Dec 2023 #36

Is criticism of Italy anti-Catholic? Basic LA Dec 2023 #41

No ..... I am Not anti semetic !!!i think israel has commitedcrimes just like all countries Trueblue1968 Dec 2023 #44

Like any massively large, complex situation, some forms most definitely are and some forms most definitely are not. Celerity Dec 2023 #46

It's not deep or morally correct lately, but it's usually not antisemitic. gulliver Dec 2023 #48

For me personally: grumpyduck Dec 2023 #50

Simply put, BidenRocks Dec 2023 #55

No. If you can't criticize someone who you think is doing something wrong, what can you do? patphil Dec 2023 #56

And nobody is doing that. It's a straw man. yardwork Dec 2023 #60

I recently remarked... GiqueCee Dec 2023 #58

Exactly. yardwork Dec 2023 #61

Meaning of antisemitic Ksout Dec 2023 #59

It's just a Google away KS Toronado Dec 2023 #68

Here ya go Mossfern Dec 2023 #75

Dictionaries are helpful. lapucelle Dec 2023 #84

Yes. marble falls Dec 2023 #85

The term is specifically associated with Jews. TwilightZone Dec 2023 #126

There are ample oil and gas reserves for Gaza. GreenWave Dec 2023 #62

True, but crying "genocide" is. And "Free Palestine from the river to the sea" is. AnrothElf Dec 2023 #63

No ismnotwasm Dec 2023 #65

Everything is ForgedCrank Dec 2023 #67

Not at all. Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #79

Bernie criticizing Israel - from Senate floor today womanofthehills Dec 2023 #81

Bernie Sanders is a Jewish American politician. Emile Dec 2023 #150

Depends upon the criticism. NT Happy Hoosier Dec 2023 #83

Obviously, you didn't read the article to the end. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #86

Not sure what you're reading... WarGamer Dec 2023 #93

I am reading your post prior to your edit at 11:03 pm, Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #95

You're trying REALLY hard to paint me as something I'm not... and it's not fair. WarGamer Dec 2023 #96

It was easy. I had help. Beastly Boy Dec 2023 #97

Absolutely NOT! Jilly_in_VA Dec 2023 #87

Interesting. H2O Man Dec 2023 #91

I think most people understand... WarGamer Dec 2023 #94

Right. H2O Man Dec 2023 #98

No. treestar Dec 2023 #100

Only when they're wrong. Iggo Dec 2023 #103

Sadly, the point of the article you posted isn't in the excerpt you shared. herding cats Dec 2023 #109

Both sides are evil. Lunabell Dec 2023 #110

Nope Chakaconcarne Dec 2023 #114

No! DenaliDemocrat Dec 2023 #116

Criticism of Israel is necessary. David__77 Dec 2023 #118

If we criticize US government policy do we hate America? IronLionZion Dec 2023 #119

Jon Stewart said SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2023 #120

How many claudette Dec 2023 #128

As with anything, the answer is... "it depends" Caliman73 Dec 2023 #131

No! We criticize the US, we can criticize other countries. LeftInTX Dec 2023 #135

You can NEVER say anything negative about Israel bif Dec 2023 #138

False. The actual issue is so many struggle to TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #154

no pfitz59 Dec 2023 #147

Nope walkingman Dec 2023 #152

No. But it's often used as a disguise. egduj Dec 2023 #155