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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
32. I do find it fascinating that now that the top marginal rate is likely to go back to 39%
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:40 AM
Nov 2012

all sorts of people are desperately pulling all sorts of creative "alternatives" out of their rears.

Robert Samuelson's idea of a "good deal" on taxes sounds oddly like something coming from someone who thinks Romney won the race:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/robert-samuelson-the-fiscal-cliff-deal-we-need/2012/11/18/3870f9c6-3014-11e2-9f50-0308e1e75445_story.html

Republicans accept immediate higher taxes on the “wealthy” — couples with more than $250,000 of income and singles with more than $200,000. Obama won the election, and that’s his minimum demand. However, it doesn’t require permanently increasing today’s top 35 percent tax rate to 39.6 percent. Instead, Obama accepts a one-year surtax or limit on deductions. During that time, Congress and the administration pledge to pursue a tax overhaul that would cut the top individual and corporate income tax rates to 30 percent.




Yes, how reasonable, Bob- let the top rate go back to pre-Bush levels for one whole year (!!!) after which, of course, we HAVE to find a way to get the rates for the poor oppressed top bracket (the so-called "wealthy" harumph harumph because no one can afford that 2nd house in the Hamptons on a measly impoverished 250K a yr harumph harumph) back down lower than they already are- say, 30%, slobber slobber drool drool.



How about this: We have an income tax in place. Large transfers of money (as opposed to assets) are ALREADY reported to the IRS. Raising the top marginal rate is a fairly simple matter, and wouldn't require any fancy new reporting or ideas.
Yep. I've said this for a while........ socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #1
As Greece how well that works ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #3
Simple, you make people report their own wealth. reusrename Nov 2012 #7
With what means of traceability or discovery? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #12
Good thinking. reusrename Nov 2012 #17
Would you commit perjury to hide your assets? closeupready Nov 2012 #8
Yet this can be a problem esp. for elderly who own their house or farm yet have SharonAnn Nov 2012 #15
I don't see the problem. reusrename Nov 2012 #19
This is an op-ed, not an editorial. athena Nov 2012 #2
Interesting. Game would change from disguising income to hiding wealth. DirkGently Nov 2012 #4
It just seems that way at first. reusrename Nov 2012 #10
It is much easier for the common people to hide wealth. ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #13
Is the idea for the wealth to never grow beyond a certain amount? JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #5
Let's see Retrograde Nov 2012 #6
End the massive accumulation of wealth, period n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #9
It discriminates against savers, rewards the spendthrifts mainer Nov 2012 #11
we'll have to kill them first librechik Nov 2012 #14
holy carp! nt brokechris Nov 2012 #25
and we can't kill them either, obviously. That's why it's such a thorny problem. librechik Nov 2012 #34
How do you calculate wealth? gravity Nov 2012 #16
Tax both. ProSense Nov 2012 #18
Make all bank records accessible by the IRS... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #22
wow! all I can say is that I am FAR to the left of you brokechris Nov 2012 #23
aren't bank transfers over a certain amount, maybe $1K, already flagged? by homeland security? eom amborin Nov 2012 #37
"Privacy nuts"?? Wow---your board name really IS apt. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #29
I'm not sure I get it brokechris Nov 2012 #30
AFAIK, that's already the case. Bank accounts have required your 'SS# or Tax ID#' for years. freshwest Nov 2012 #35
This would be un-Constitutional PlasticFern Nov 2012 #20
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #38
Most people I know have no saved wealth... the entire paycheck goes to bills... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #21
yet some people have scrimped and saved brokechris Nov 2012 #24
My 88-yr-old mother, as well. Lives really frugally, so she can have some U.S. bonds. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #28
and I believe older people like your mother brokechris Nov 2012 #31
The virtual elimination of the inheritance tax, something the Founders approved of, destroys that. freshwest Nov 2012 #36
I am more comfortable with just income and estate taxes. MrYikes Nov 2012 #26
Well, there are a whole slew of retireees like me---from public education---who think this is a bad WinkyDink Nov 2012 #27
I do find it fascinating that now that the top marginal rate is likely to go back to 39% Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #32
No shit! ProSense Nov 2012 #33
This ought to be the primary method for collecting taxes. reformist2 Nov 2012 #39
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