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34. It's laughable anyone thinks Trump is a man's man

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What's The Matter With Men (from the New Yorker). [View all] qwlauren35 Feb 2024 OP

Yep, there's a paywall. redqueen Feb 2024 #1

Hmmm... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #4

Not all men. When you define being a man with sexist stereotypes redqueen Feb 2024 #6

I wish I could read the entire article. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #10

Yes, socialization plays a huge part. redqueen Feb 2024 #11

Genetics happen. cachukis Feb 2024 #22

Yes, and? redqueen Feb 2024 #46

Ha. Ha. Ha. cachukis Feb 2024 #50

Oh. My. God. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #54

How so? Enlighten me. cachukis Feb 2024 #57

"The coquette bequiles the brute because she needs a brute" redqueen Feb 2024 #64

Really? Have you not played the game? cachukis Feb 2024 #66

Never in my life redqueen Feb 2024 #69

I don't know that delivering is part of the equation. cachukis Feb 2024 #71

Well...but they might be birdographer Feb 2024 #39

But they aren't. redqueen Feb 2024 #45

All very interesting birdographer Feb 2024 #76

I thought Dems believed in science. That's a meta analysis redqueen Feb 2024 #77

Wisdom. cachukis Feb 2024 #21

What you are attributing to "wired differently" has been researched spooky3 Feb 2024 #28

OK, I stand corrected. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #48

Some of it is biological. It's just a much smaller portion than many spooky3 Feb 2024 #53

I looked on the web. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #61

The most relevant literature is in psychology journals. spooky3 Feb 2024 #65

"We should let them." Who is stopping them? Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #32

Perhaps qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #35

Bookmarking. Thanks. lamp_shade Feb 2024 #2

That was intense. Lot going on in this. cachukis Feb 2024 #3

I wouldn't call it discrimination. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #5

Nor I. But it's there. Too much to take on. cachukis Feb 2024 #15

So much of "masculinity" has always and everywhere been based on enough Feb 2024 #7

That's sad. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #8

"competitiveness is what inspires men to do great things" redqueen Feb 2024 #9

Where I was coming from qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #13

A lot of men's inventions weren't even driven by war redqueen Feb 2024 #18

Yup... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #19

Ah, a conflict face. cachukis Feb 2024 #16

Agree with much of this limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #62

On the other hand... -misanthroptimist Feb 2024 #80

The troubling and possibly telling thing is, this isn't just an American problem. paleotn Feb 2024 #12

Same guy. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #14

" "the most mediocre of males feels himself a demigod as compared with women,"" lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #17

Interestingly. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #20

Anecdotally: Women are less likely to date a 'lower status' male speak easy Feb 2024 #23

Status is relative. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #26

No, it's not anecdotal, it's statistical. Joe Cool Feb 2024 #37

And as women raise in status relative to men? speak easy Feb 2024 #38

Upper class men are the most likely to be or have been married Joe Cool Feb 2024 #42

Hmmm... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #49

Just reread the thread. cachukis Feb 2024 #24

Non paywall version FelineOverlord Feb 2024 #25

Thank you very much. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #27

The article touches on the role of the online "manosphere" grifters, nearly all... keep_left Feb 2024 #29

Hmmmm... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #31

This is what I'm talking about (from the article). keep_left Feb 2024 #40

I am conflicted. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #43

Trump isn't a man's man Joe Cool Feb 2024 #30

Goodness... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #33

Have you ever seen the average MAGA? Joe Cool Feb 2024 #36

trDUMP is a toxic man's idol - who they dream to be like. magicarpet Feb 2024 #67

It's laughable anyone thinks Trump is a man's man Joe Cool Feb 2024 #34

This conversation is rife with disturbing stereotypes.. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #41

From another thread cachukis Feb 2024 #44

Love it. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #47

You've opened a high level Pandora box. cachukis Feb 2024 #56

Those researchers don't seem to know the men I know. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #51

Well... TlalocW Feb 2024 #52

Just one thought - Trump is definately not a "man's man". He is the kind of walkingman Feb 2024 #55

Every time I see a piece like this, grumpyduck Feb 2024 #58

Exactly. There's no there there. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #60

I think the book is data driven. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #63

Seriously? Everything here is anecdotally cachukis Feb 2024 #68

Qanon is an anecdotally provocative subject which people pondered and made conclusions about Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #72

That's a good stretch. Everyone absorbs the cachukis Feb 2024 #73

location, location, location willamette Feb 2024 #75

I hate just about every reply in this thread edisdead Feb 2024 #59

Bummer. cachukis Feb 2024 #70

I don't know it had a middle school lunch table discussion quality that was fun. BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #78

"I can give you your answer right now. My answer is: Nothing." Fichefinder Feb 2024 #74

The path to equality is rough ismnotwasm Feb 2024 #79

I've thought about this some now. -misanthroptimist Feb 2024 #81

Male brains haven't evolved to accommodate the very recent massive societal/technological/work changes Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #82

What exactly do you mean by this: Bettie Feb 2024 #83

It's hard to explain. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #84