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Scrivener7

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72. Qanon is an anecdotally provocative subject which people pondered and made conclusions about

Sun Feb 4, 2024, 12:36 AM

Feb 2024

in the absence of data.

Without data to back up the sweeping generalizations in this article, any conclusion you reach based on your "ponderings" are meaningless, and any insistence on the value of those conclusions proves the absence of wisdom.

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What's The Matter With Men (from the New Yorker). [View all] qwlauren35 Feb 2024 OP

Yep, there's a paywall. redqueen Feb 2024 #1

Hmmm... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #4

Not all men. When you define being a man with sexist stereotypes redqueen Feb 2024 #6

I wish I could read the entire article. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #10

Yes, socialization plays a huge part. redqueen Feb 2024 #11

Genetics happen. cachukis Feb 2024 #22

Yes, and? redqueen Feb 2024 #46

Ha. Ha. Ha. cachukis Feb 2024 #50

Oh. My. God. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #54

How so? Enlighten me. cachukis Feb 2024 #57

"The coquette bequiles the brute because she needs a brute" redqueen Feb 2024 #64

Really? Have you not played the game? cachukis Feb 2024 #66

Never in my life redqueen Feb 2024 #69

I don't know that delivering is part of the equation. cachukis Feb 2024 #71

Well...but they might be birdographer Feb 2024 #39

But they aren't. redqueen Feb 2024 #45

All very interesting birdographer Feb 2024 #76

I thought Dems believed in science. That's a meta analysis redqueen Feb 2024 #77

Wisdom. cachukis Feb 2024 #21

What you are attributing to "wired differently" has been researched spooky3 Feb 2024 #28

OK, I stand corrected. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #48

Some of it is biological. It's just a much smaller portion than many spooky3 Feb 2024 #53

I looked on the web. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #61

The most relevant literature is in psychology journals. spooky3 Feb 2024 #65

"We should let them." Who is stopping them? Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #32

Perhaps qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #35

Bookmarking. Thanks. lamp_shade Feb 2024 #2

That was intense. Lot going on in this. cachukis Feb 2024 #3

I wouldn't call it discrimination. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #5

Nor I. But it's there. Too much to take on. cachukis Feb 2024 #15

So much of "masculinity" has always and everywhere been based on enough Feb 2024 #7

That's sad. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #8

"competitiveness is what inspires men to do great things" redqueen Feb 2024 #9

Where I was coming from qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #13

A lot of men's inventions weren't even driven by war redqueen Feb 2024 #18

Yup... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #19

Ah, a conflict face. cachukis Feb 2024 #16

Agree with much of this limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #62

On the other hand... -misanthroptimist Feb 2024 #80

The troubling and possibly telling thing is, this isn't just an American problem. paleotn Feb 2024 #12

Same guy. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #14

" "the most mediocre of males feels himself a demigod as compared with women,"" lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #17

Interestingly. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #20

Anecdotally: Women are less likely to date a 'lower status' male speak easy Feb 2024 #23

Status is relative. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #26

No, it's not anecdotal, it's statistical. Joe Cool Feb 2024 #37

And as women raise in status relative to men? speak easy Feb 2024 #38

Upper class men are the most likely to be or have been married Joe Cool Feb 2024 #42

Hmmm... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #49

Just reread the thread. cachukis Feb 2024 #24

Non paywall version FelineOverlord Feb 2024 #25

Thank you very much. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #27

The article touches on the role of the online "manosphere" grifters, nearly all... keep_left Feb 2024 #29

Hmmmm... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #31

This is what I'm talking about (from the article). keep_left Feb 2024 #40

I am conflicted. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #43

Trump isn't a man's man Joe Cool Feb 2024 #30

Goodness... qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #33

Have you ever seen the average MAGA? Joe Cool Feb 2024 #36

trDUMP is a toxic man's idol - who they dream to be like. magicarpet Feb 2024 #67

It's laughable anyone thinks Trump is a man's man Joe Cool Feb 2024 #34

This conversation is rife with disturbing stereotypes.. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #41

From another thread cachukis Feb 2024 #44

Love it. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #47

You've opened a high level Pandora box. cachukis Feb 2024 #56

Those researchers don't seem to know the men I know. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #51

Well... TlalocW Feb 2024 #52

Just one thought - Trump is definately not a "man's man". He is the kind of walkingman Feb 2024 #55

Every time I see a piece like this, grumpyduck Feb 2024 #58

Exactly. There's no there there. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #60

I think the book is data driven. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #63

Seriously? Everything here is anecdotally cachukis Feb 2024 #68

Qanon is an anecdotally provocative subject which people pondered and made conclusions about Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #72

That's a good stretch. Everyone absorbs the cachukis Feb 2024 #73

location, location, location willamette Feb 2024 #75

I hate just about every reply in this thread edisdead Feb 2024 #59

Bummer. cachukis Feb 2024 #70

I don't know it had a middle school lunch table discussion quality that was fun. BannonsLiver Feb 2024 #78

"I can give you your answer right now. My answer is: Nothing." Fichefinder Feb 2024 #74

The path to equality is rough ismnotwasm Feb 2024 #79

I've thought about this some now. -misanthroptimist Feb 2024 #81

Male brains haven't evolved to accommodate the very recent massive societal/technological/work changes Sky Jewels Feb 2024 #82

What exactly do you mean by this: Bettie Feb 2024 #83

It's hard to explain. qwlauren35 Feb 2024 #84