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Thu Nov 22, 2012, 12:02 AM Nov 2012

The “Fiscal Cliff” Hoax [View all]

The scare of a so-called “Fiscal Cliff” is basically a trick created by right wing elites to get us to accept cuts to social safety net programs like Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare – as well as to extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich. If extending tax cuts for the rich doesn’t sound to you like a good way to reduce the federal deficit, you’re not alone. Yet despite the massive evidence to the contrary, and against the opinions of any decent economist not in the pockets of Wall Street, the right wing elite want us to believe that decreasing their taxes will create jobs, reduce the federal deficit and stimulate our economy.


The so-called “Fiscal Cliff”

So what exactly is the “fiscal cliff”? At the end of December 31, 2012, two things will happen if some sort of deal isn’t cut to prevent it. One is that the Bush tax cuts for the rich will expire, and the top marginal tax rate will go back to the 39.6% that it was during the Clinton administration. That in itself would go a long way towards reducing our federal deficit. And it would not reduce jobs or slow down job growth. During the Clinton Presidency our economy was much better, unemployment was much lower, and small businesses grew twice as fast as after the Bush tax cuts for the rich. And we then had a budget surplus.

Along with taxes on the rich going back up to Clinton era levels, there would also be a modest rise in taxes on the middle class. So how could that be rectified? Legislation has already been passed by the U.S. Senate to restore the middle class tax cuts in 2013, and President Obama has vowed to sign that into law if the House goes along with it. Would the House dare to refuse to do that? What would that do to their re-election chances?

The other thing that will happen after the end of this year if a deal isn’t cut first is that there will be various automatic cuts to domestic and military spending. Those consequences are not cut in stone, but rather are a Tea Party/GOP manufactured crisis. They demanded those future automatic cuts in the summer of 2011 in return for their agreeing to raise the debt ceiling so that our country could pay its debts and avoid crashing the economy. It was blackmail. Right wing zealots in Congress created this “crisis”, and they could just as easily un-create it by acquiescing to a reversal of the spending cuts they voted for in 2011.

This is what Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman had to say about the so-called “fiscal cliff”:

Contrary to the way it’s often portrayed, the looming prospect of spending cuts and tax increases isn’t a fiscal crisis. It is, instead, a political crisis brought on by the G.O.P.’s attempt to take the economy hostage. And just to be clear, the danger for next year is not that the deficit will be too large but that it will be too small, and hence plunge America back into recession.

And as for their motives:

It’s not just the fact that the deficit scolds have been wrong about everything so far. Recent events have also demonstrated clearly what was already apparent to careful observers: the deficit-scold movement was never really about the deficit. Instead, it was about using deficit fears to shred the social safety net. And letting that happen wouldn’t just be bad policy; it would be a betrayal of the Americans who just re-elected a health-reformer president and voted in some of the most progressive senators ever.


The real crisis

So why did Krugman say that the danger “is not that the deficit will be too large but that it will be too small”? Our federal deficit at this time is not all that much larger as a percentage of our GDP than it has been in the past, as you can see from this chart:



Our major problem at this time is our very weak economy and the joblessness that goes along with it. Economists have long known that this kind of problem is not solved by decreasing spending, but by increasing it on things that put people to work. It is exacerbated by the kind of severe income and wealth inequality that our country is now experiencing and that our right wing elites want to make even more severe. It is exacerbated by cuts to social safety net programs that our right wing elites want to privatize and destroy. Robert Borosage explains:

Virtually every aspect of this hysteria is wrong. The United States does not have a short-term deficit problem, and the fundamental long-term problem isn’t one of soaring debt; rather, it is the lack of a foundation for sustainable growth that includes working people…

Austerity is, paradoxically, likely to undermine the stated goal of deficit reduction. Cutting spending… in a weak economy destroys jobs and slows growth. The increased unemployment leads to declining tax revenue as well as increased demands on government services, all of which adds to the deficit. This is the famous “debt trap” recently experienced in much of Europe, where premature and harsh austerity drove many EU countries into recession…

Putting people back to work does more to reduce deficits than any other factor. That requires more federal spending now, preferably in areas vital to the economy, like modernizing our infrastructure and keeping teachers on the job. Once the economy is growing and people are working, the deficit will come down. Additional steps can be taken, if necessary…


What Americans do not want

Most Americans are against what the right wing elites are trying to force upon on with their “fiscal cliff” scare. They are against “requiring deep cuts in domestic programs without protecting programs for infants, poor children, schools and college aid” (75%); they are against “cutting discretionary spending, like education, child nutrition, worker training and disease control (72%); they are against cutting taxes for the rich and corporations (67%), and; they are against “reducing Social Security benefits by having them rise more slowly than the cost of living” (62%). And all this is despite the massive propaganda efforts of our right wing elites.


What we should do

Robert Borosage sums up the situation that we now face, and how we should address it:

The essential dynamic is that Democrats reward Republican intransigence with concessions. Republicans refuse to hike taxes, so to entice them, Democrats offer the crown jewels: Medicare and Social Security. Republicans still resist tax hikes, so the austerity crowd suggests “reform” that will in theory bring in more revenue while lowering tax rates (on the rich)….

The debate we should be having is about how to make the economy work for working people again, how to revive a broad middle class and make the American Dream more than a nostalgic fantasy….

A serious long-term commitment to rebuild America would renovate our infrastructure to withstand the extreme weather that is already upon us. It would break up the big banks and shackle finance so that it serves, rather than threatens, the real economy. Measures to transform corporate governance, curb excessive executive compensation, and empower
workers to organize and bargain collectively would help counter extreme inequality…

It would feature progressive tax reform, compelling the wealthy and corporations to pay their fair share. It would continue healthcare reform and guarantee affordable care as a right for every citizen, not a privilege allowed only to those who can afford it…

Reaching no deal is preferable to a bad one that cuts entitlements. Going over the so-called fiscal cliff is perilous, but probably preferable to a bargain under the terms currently in play. With no agreement, the Bush tax cuts would expire. In January the Senate would immediately push to revive the lower rates for everyone but the top 2 percent….

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The “Fiscal Cliff” Hoax [View all] Time for change Nov 2012 OP
over the cliff is good for democrats instead of selling out to republicans...again nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Over the "cliff", and then... Time for change Nov 2012 #14
That's the exact strategy that will win us House seats in 2014! grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #60
Keep it simple. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #48
To paraphrase Krugman, this is a political crisis, not a fiscal crisis. Huge K&R nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #2
Yes, Krugman is a national treasure Time for change Nov 2012 #3
Good read as always ... Happy thanks Giving ... rtassi Nov 2012 #4
Thanks - Happy Thanksgiving Time for change Nov 2012 #9
Paul Krugman Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #5
"... never really about the deficit... about using deficit fears to shred the social safety net..." Scuba Nov 2012 #6
AS importantly, chervilant Nov 2012 #18
Great quote. rudycantfail Nov 2012 #45
The following also expire Morganfleeman Nov 2012 #7
Yes, there are good things that will expire at the end of the year too Time for change Nov 2012 #8
Thanks for pointing that out customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #24
It does John2 Nov 2012 #37
Yes, but it's far better for us to reinstate those as individual bills, grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #62
K&R myrna minx Nov 2012 #10
K&R for jumping. 99Forever Nov 2012 #11
You and I wish ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #42
Species of Disaster Capitalism. DirkGently Nov 2012 #12
Thanks for this concise info (nt) hexola Nov 2012 #13
Textbook Disaster Capitalism. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #15
K&R. Well said. Until we have a tiny transaction tax on Wall Street trades, or seriously reduce the Overseas Nov 2012 #16
Excellent concise points Time for change Nov 2012 #30
Thank you. Bugs me that getting revenue from the wealthy is seen as a Concession by GOP. Overseas Nov 2012 #38
Plus, because I wanted to spell it out. Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #43
I kinda stole your words. RC Nov 2012 #54
K&R. and saving to read more later BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #17
Thank you very much Blanche Time for change Nov 2012 #19
Ooooh! please let us know BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #34
Thank you. Time for change Nov 2012 #39
. Ghost Dog Nov 2012 #46
Great post! Poiuyt Nov 2012 #20
May I make a correction? Why don't more GOP'ers look... because the truth hurts them! nightscanner59 Nov 2012 #21
Let's Go Over the Cliff mckara Nov 2012 #22
Thanks for a most important post. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #23
Not only is the "fiscal cliff" a hoax, the Tea Party solution would create an economic disaster. AdHocSolver Nov 2012 #25
I think that bottom line is that Time for change Nov 2012 #36
These are the policies that are now required (parsing Borosage): Ghost Dog Nov 2012 #26
How tall is this "cliff" underoath Nov 2012 #27
Somewhere the Democratic Party is going to have to make a stand. kentuck Nov 2012 #28
This is great! Sorry I missed this in the holiday hullabaloo AllyCat Nov 2012 #29
That's because chervilant Nov 2012 #33
Awesome OP. Will be bookmarking and reading it again. freshwest Nov 2012 #31
The Disaster Capitalists chervilant Nov 2012 #32
What I John2 Nov 2012 #35
yep! NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #41
this cannot be emphasized enough and NoMoreWarNow Nov 2012 #40
I don't normally rec posts ... Fantastic Anarchist Nov 2012 #44
This is like saying the Titanic can't sink davidn3600 Nov 2012 #47
Uh.. sendero Nov 2012 #49
I pretty much agree with all that Time for change Nov 2012 #50
Need jobs? RC Nov 2012 #51
Yep over the fiscal speed bump......... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #52
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #53
Unfortunately the WH has adopted (another) right wing meme Doctor_J Nov 2012 #55
The tax cuts for the wealthy have been in effect for 10 years & the jobs have hemorraged (been lost judesedit Nov 2012 #56
Keeping it kicked. nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #57
Awesome OP blackspade Nov 2012 #58
Certainly I agree, but the White House is screwing US again. Savannahmann Nov 2012 #59
We need to reframe it as the "Fiscal Bluff", or similar. grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #61
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