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moniss

(4,274 posts)
17. Good OP
Thu Feb 22, 2024, 02:42 PM
Feb 2024

and sadly we still in America do little to really come to grips with admitting how much of our conduct towards Native Americans was driven by the "convert the savage" justification. The Hollywood movies/TV shows are all mostly predominant about the tribes of the Plains and Southwest and usually all about military conflict. Hollywood still doesn't really show us the truth of the Iroquois for example and how they lived. Conflict sells I guess. How about a real story of the "Trail of Tears"? How about a realistic portrayal of what the Spanish Mission system did to the tribes in California? The destruction of tribes and then the subsequent horrors of the "Schools" all had the "convert the savage" mentality at it's core.

So we wait for a movie that will never come about the fight for the return of the Black Hills. We wait for a movie to tell the real truth about the "Schools" the people involved and what they did. Suffice it to say that we know as fact that a huge amount of knowledge and wisdom gets lost through the ages whether, for example, it is Alexandria, the Mayans or the Native American tribes. Sometimes there are more than one way to answer questions. Sometimes people want to control those answers.

" It is hard to follow one great vision in this world of darkness and of many changing shadows. Among those men get lost."

Black Elk

I always found it amusing that although Jesus said, if a town or city did not want to hear the message of Aristus Feb 2024 #1
And they ignore the passage about praying in a closet Farmer-Rick Feb 2024 #8
The only "verse" that matters jayschool2013 Feb 2024 #31
Oh I agree Farmer-Rick Feb 2024 #40
Absolutely correct, humanity is not their first priority. It's God's kingdom Walleye Feb 2024 #2
It is ever-changing mythology. pandr32 Feb 2024 #3
By Zeus, I believe that you are on to something! Dave Bowman Feb 2024 #10
Yes, but we have to deal with this version, progressoid Feb 2024 #13
They didn't listen to their own. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #4
Hell no. They welcomed them in. progressoid Feb 2024 #19
Reminds me of something I learned in Catholic school. calimary Feb 2024 #36
My narcissist mother is a Talibangelical who blew up her family in the name of Jesus OMGWTF Feb 2024 #5
I have always thought that there is only one way to deal with religious thoughts, that say have faith. bluestarone Feb 2024 #6
I am tired of people who quote the bible. Just post some fortunes from your Chinese cookies. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #7
The real mystery is John Farmer Feb 2024 #9
They are damn hypocrites. Dave Bowman Feb 2024 #12
These creepy weirdos sure are very dangerous and it seems Dave Bowman Feb 2024 #11
Christian Covidicus StarryNite Feb 2024 #15
You can't argue or reason with a god. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2024 #14
Yes you can! ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #26
"CALLED BY GOD" -- God's voice in their head, or their own ego? Martin Eden Feb 2024 #16
Good OP moniss Feb 2024 #17
Goldwater was wrong about much but he was right about evangelists Warpy Feb 2024 #18
Goldwater would have been better (err...less paranoid?) than Nixon, he should have run in '68 ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 2024 #27
Similar for me (1943, Missouri) Trust_Reality Feb 2024 #20
I'm surprised that everyone doesn't already know this! CCExile Feb 2024 #21
Unfortunately, the "moderate" Christians uphold the radical Christofascists LiberalLovinLug Feb 2024 #22
I hear you. These leaders are dangerous, but Pew and 538 show charts that show they don't represent most Christians. ancianita Feb 2024 #23
The problem is that they have the ear, or are actually political leaders within the Republican Party Caliman73 Feb 2024 #32
You may be right that they have leaders' ear. But it's Americans' views of them that are driving the vote toward the ancianita Feb 2024 #34
Religious zealots are dangerous dlk Feb 2024 #24
It's interesting that the phrase is Mblaze Feb 2024 #25
It is more than evangelism. It is Dominionism. Caliman73 Feb 2024 #28
I'm all in with this thread leanforward Feb 2024 #29
These Fanatics take "Onward Christian Soldiers" LITERALLY. amb123 Feb 2024 #30
KICK. PlutosHeart Feb 2024 #33
Now that politics are being driven by religion, it's fair game on this general page. lindysalsagal Feb 2024 #35
The Americanized Evangelicals will fold like tissue paper the moment it costs them things......... jaxexpat Feb 2024 #37
K&R...nt Wounded Bear Feb 2024 #38
Polls apparently are showing that the dominionists comprise a minority of evangelicals . Permanut Feb 2024 #39
I'm in complete agreement leanforward Feb 2024 #41
Of course, it is serious. OldBaldy1701E Feb 2024 #42
Yep. Religion is a mind virus. redqueen Feb 2024 #43
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