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bigtree

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Fri Mar 15, 2024, 09:44 AM Mar 15

I'm going to say it, and you can place yourself where you want on this [View all]

...your choice, not mine.

The internet is full of trolls calling for Garland to resign this morning.

The complaints took off after the exoneration by Hur, sparked by people who think it's more important to highlight the salacious things Hur included in the report and set hair on fire over them, instead of highlighting the exoneration as the president did, and move on.

Yesterday DA Bragg wrote an order delaying the hush money trial and said in as clear language as anyone can read that "the timing of the USAO's productions is the result solely of the defendant's delay."

Instead of blaming Trump for the delay, as the DA clearly did in that order, a mantra was started on the internet that U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland was responsible for supposedly waiting a year to dump the documents this week.

Never mind that Bragg cited SDNY as the branch responsible for filling out discovery motions.

Never mind that the AG doesn't monitor the discovery processes of state prosecutions, or that the AG exercising that kind of heavyhanded oversight would make a lie out of any assertion that those prosecutions are completely separate from the man Trump's political rival in this election appointed.

The calls this morning for Merrick Garland to resign are just off the hook, and I've been participating in social media for long enough to know when I see deliberate propaganda.

It's not enough to defend our own personal reasons for opposing the AG by stating the obvious right to do so. it should come with some reason or logic that stands up to the fact that this man is still following through with the process of accountability which began in the Fall of 2021with the hiring of Tom Windom to investigate the Trump WH (this investigator still active in court today on the election interference charges).

When you come for the AG of a president who has NEVER said ONE WORD of complaint against him, it should be expected that you come with something more than an internet meme.

When you come at the AG who's not only responsible for prosecuting over a 1000 white supremacist, Trump-supporting Capitol rioters, but hired the man who brought two multi-felony indictments against the former president you need to come with more than absurd charges that he's a 'republican mole,' or maga or any of the other denigrating things people feel free to throw at him in front of his efforts.

And, remember... do remember. There are plenty of people who don't share our interest in justice who have been dragging President Biden's AG, the man who prosecuted them, for years now.

How in the world do people making these calls for his resignation think they are received on the other side? I mean....



Right?

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Excellent post, bigtree. Thank you! brer cat Mar 15 #1
Nailed it as always malaise Mar 15 #2
If you're happy with our side scrambling for trial dates in 2024 while a second Trump term remains distinctly possible BeyondGeography Mar 15 #3
I only see a lot of sandbaggers on MOMFUDSKI Mar 15 #4
Thank you. Elessar Zappa Mar 15 #5
Bragg clearly blamed BOTH... getagrip_already Mar 15 #6
What you see as an apologist, others see as defending not a man, but reality. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #8
What was it kelly conway said about reality? getagrip_already Mar 15 #9
That's just the thing, there are no alternative facts in this situation Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #17
Garland was clueless, which IS the problem getagrip_already Mar 15 #19
"Clueless" is your opinion. Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #20
But none are as easy! BootinUp Mar 15 #22
A tangled web, indeed. Ocelot II Mar 15 #43
IMO Garland has been a poor AG, didn't rise to the moment of the most severe threatl... brush Mar 15 #78
Laurence Tribe now calls Garland "Mr. Speedy" BeyondGeography Mar 15 #79
Laurence Tribe is correct. It's funny yet maddening sarcasm as... brush Mar 15 #85
Sarcasm, no? (no text) returnee Mar 15 #97
And yet Laurence Tribe isn't always right NanaCat Mar 15 #103
That is a false statement Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #94
Late in appointing SC Smith even. Should've done it a year earlier. brush Mar 15 #101
You clearly don't understand what justifies appointing a Special Counsel Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #109
We've all got opinions. No way I agree with yours. brush Mar 15 #112
"Just two days after trump declared his candidacy" is a red herring Goodheart Mar 16 #142
Why should a Special Counsel have been appointed sooner? Fiendish Thingy Mar 16 #144
Looks like verifiable as opinions. PufPuf23 Mar 15 #107
Note: the link contains a list of verifiable facts and dates. Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #110
Did not read article, just humored by link title. PufPuf23 Mar 15 #115
Well said and thanks for that post. emulatorloo Mar 15 #90
Nah, yr just blaming anybody and everyone EXCEPT Trump and his legal team. emulatorloo Mar 15 #89
An incontrovertible inconvenient fact: Bobstandard Mar 15 #10
Andrew Weissmann worked for SDNY gab13by13 Mar 15 #13
I saw that interview... getagrip_already Mar 15 #18
The internet/social media creates an insatiable, impatient hunger for quick and simple solutions Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #7
You nailed it. ShazzieB Mar 15 #44
Where I get my news I see zero people calling for Garland to resign. gab13by13 Mar 15 #11
Agreed. ShazzieB Mar 15 #56
Garland has been an unmitigated disaster. Voltaire2 Mar 15 #12
you know the people in that song Trump plays before his rallies? The 'Jan. 6 Singers?' bigtree Mar 15 #32
Well put. The OP is distractive from the REAL issue with Garland Goodheart Mar 15 #116
The internet needs solutions and scapegoats and it needs them NOW. Ocelot II Mar 15 #14
I respect your opinions and always click on your posts gab13by13 Mar 15 #24
I don't think calling for his head is helpful at this point. Ocelot II Mar 15 #30
I could not agree more, gab13by13 Mar 15 #34
Because if he resigned the trolls wouldn't be able to call for his head on a daily basis AZSkiffyGeek Mar 15 #104
The frustration by some is not so much NOW but long it has been and PufPuf23 Mar 15 #118
Let's just say I'd much prefer a new Attorney General... dchill Mar 15 #15
And Glenn Kirschner is just the man for the job. Ligyron Mar 15 #60
Hindsight is 20/20. nt hay rick Mar 15 #16
Hang in there, bigtree Hekate Mar 15 #21
I agree, bigtree. Joe, unlike his predecessor, really DOES pick the best people! 70sEraVet Mar 15 #23
100% I disagreed with his choice of Hur and I think that is allowed but I have never been Bev54 Mar 15 #25
Do you honestly believe in your heart gab13by13 Mar 15 #36
I don't agree with everything Garland has done and in particular the Hur appointment and the lack of cleanout of Bev54 Mar 15 #75
. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #26
.. bigtree Mar 15 #35
I remember the days of the torches and pitchforks that came out for Eric Holder BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #27
Preet Bhrarara, gab13by13 Mar 15 #40
I watched Andrew Weissmann last night too BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #53
Is Garland allowed to choose his team or is he forced to deal with corrupt trump leftovers? ecstatic Mar 15 #102
There are a certain lower layer of positions that the Department (and agency head) can "choose" BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #113
Thank for setting it straight. Excellent post. Martin68 Mar 15 #28
Firing Garland at this time would be a bad idea. But only because it's just too late. His duty is already done. jaxexpat Mar 15 #29
Politics is a nasty, dirty business Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 15 #31
Yup. Agree. My only question is why Garland Joinfortmill Mar 15 #33
Your question actually points to a larger question . . . markpkessinger Mar 15 #67
The idea that you have condemnation for moniss Mar 15 #37
I admit blaming Bragg for sabatoging his own prosecution of Trump didn't occur to me bigtree Mar 15 #41
It certainly looks to me like President Biden is upset with Merrick Garland gab13by13 Mar 15 #45
Unless you're having WH luncheons with Joe, your perception is based on one anonymously sourced article. Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #65
You can put that right in line with the fact that moniss Mar 15 #62
Wow, very interesting analysis. gab13by13 Mar 15 #42
Yes and even Vance moniss Mar 15 #69
I don't think Garland should resign, BUT . . . markpkessinger Mar 15 #38
I'm old enough to remember when the complaints were that he didn't need a SC bigtree Mar 15 #47
I think you're reacting rather strongly... Think. Again. Mar 15 #39
ask the questions and bring your receipts bigtree Mar 15 #48
But I have no questions for you. Think. Again. Mar 15 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Mar 15 #66
That's funny because your post ends in a question mark AZSkiffyGeek Mar 15 #128
Oh, you mean this rhetorical question... Think. Again. Mar 16 #138
I'm just commenting on the fact you asked a question AZSkiffyGeek Mar 16 #146
Such fun! now look up "Rhetorical Question"! Think. Again. Mar 16 #149
Garland has limited influence over the SDNY Cosmocat Mar 15 #46
Merrick Garland is SDNY's boss. gab13by13 Mar 15 #57
But the 93 U.S. Attorneys are NOT the AG's appointees BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #61
He still runs the show... Think. Again. Mar 15 #70
"He still runs the show..." BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #72
I'm pretty sure... Think. Again. Mar 15 #73
"that any work the DOJ is doing that directly involves an ex-President will find it's way onto garland's update memos" BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #74
I MUST disagree... Think. Again. Mar 15 #77
To respond BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #83
Yeah, people here on DU sometimes seem very happy.... Think. Again. Mar 15 #84
"I suspect the prosecution of a Presidential candidate might be high on the AG's concern list." BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #86
"Justice delayed is justice denied." Think. Again. Mar 15 #87
That has been the call from those who want Criminal Justice Reform BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #91
See? We can agree!!! Think. Again. Mar 15 #92
But it has nothing to do with Garland. BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #93
That's true, we don't agree on garland.... Think. Again. Mar 15 #95
"Criminal Justice" is not just "federal" BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #96
If you're saying garland is just a figurehead... Think. Again. Mar 15 #98
Again BumRushDaShow Mar 15 #99
Okay, well thanks, I don't really get what you're trying to say, but I appreciate the discussion. Think. Again. Mar 15 #105
The OP would have you believe, apparently, that these SDNY documents are the only cause that has provoked anger, Goodheart Mar 15 #119
Public pressure can be tough. lees1975 Mar 15 #49
You are spreading falsehoods Fiendish Thingy Mar 15 #64
Sorry, but he admitted to delays himself. lees1975 Mar 15 #106
no receipts, so it didn't happen bigtree Mar 15 #121
Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberated for weeks over whether to approve the application for a warrant to search f republianmushroom Mar 15 #124
Maybe you mean this one. republianmushroom Mar 15 #126
See my reply to big tree below your post. republianmushroom Mar 15 #125
A year? Closer to two years... twenty months, in fact. Goodheart Mar 16 #141
Detailed Chronology in Trump-Cohen Hush Money Investigation SARose Mar 15 #50
consult the master computer on 1/6 AllaN01Bear Mar 15 #51
There's a lot of people right now that I am pissed at here. William769 Mar 15 #52
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 15 #54
...... 58Sunliner Mar 15 #55
a little bit plagiarism here, but, republianmushroom Mar 15 #59
Will be thrilled to see him resign, or be fired. boston bean Mar 15 #63
Right!! lamp_shade Mar 15 #68
How many times did Jordan and Comer threaten Bragg? SARose Mar 15 #71
I don't care how the other side receives me, or either side for that matter. It's past time for Garland to go. Autumn Mar 15 #76
This obsession displayed by some with Garland is truly disturbing, it does not seem at all healthy. tritsofme Mar 15 #80
Garland has always been at a disadvantage... allegorical oracle Mar 15 #81
You can't get rid of Garland before the election, but we absolutely should after the election. Demsrule86 Mar 15 #82
The idea that Garland would want to stick around for 8 years in the first place is pretty silly. tritsofme Mar 15 #88
I understand your point. Fully. But the problem is he put our country in jeopardy ecstatic Mar 15 #100
it's just untrue that he waited for anything bigtree Mar 15 #108
Wow, talk about a strawman Goodheart Mar 15 #120
Donald Trump's first criminal trial delayed SARose Mar 15 #111
The one FACT you continue to la la la gloss over Goodheart Mar 15 #114
A few dates, upon which to adequately assess Garland's performance Goodheart Mar 15 #117
Cherry-picking only the dates that support one's assertion... TwilightZone Mar 15 #123
I picked the dates that matter. Goodheart Mar 15 #127
Nah, it's called ignoring whatever doesn't fit the narrative. TwilightZone Mar 16 #136
You're quite wrong, of course. Goodheart Mar 16 #140
Did you see this list upthread BumRushDaShow Mar 16 #145
Jack Smith was appointed TWENTY MONTHS after the insurrection. Goodheart Mar 16 #147
"Jack Smith was appointed TWENTY MONTHS after the insurrection." BumRushDaShow Mar 16 #151
Some of the ignorance is intentional. TwilightZone Mar 15 #122
Looks to me like much projection. nt PufPuf23 Mar 15 #129
Nope. TwilightZone Mar 15 #130
Garland should have started prosecutions of tRump 15 minutes after being appointed to the office. rwild1967 Mar 15 #131
Correct. Goodheart Mar 15 #132
he's sworn in in March 2021 and by Fall of 2021 he's already investigating bigtree Mar 15 #134
The proof is in the pudding. Here's the pudding: Goodheart Mar 16 #148
Kick canetoad Mar 15 #133
Sorry but your wrong thumper2547 Mar 16 #135
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Mar 16 #137
The apologists will come along to declare you a troll, Goodheart Mar 16 #139
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 16 #150
Great post! Emile Mar 17 #154
K&R Emile Mar 17 #155
Biden shouldn't accept a resignation now Captain Zero Mar 16 #143
Ali Primera once crooned... GreenWave Mar 16 #152
Trump tried to overthrow our government and Emile Mar 17 #153
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