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Moral Compass

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13. It's about the business model
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nov 2012

These tweets completely miss the point of the "whining". People (some of them liberals) are protesting a business model that pays its employees such low wages that these almost full time employees have to be on benefits programs such as food stamps and Medicaid to survive.

Won't even go into the economic issues about Walmart squeezing it suppliers so hard that some of them have failed. That having Walmart come into a rural area will cause most local retail business to fail leaving more people unemployed than the new store will employ. That their food prices really aren't that good and that the poor shop there because the commercials Walmart runs tell them that the prices are lower. That Walmart varies its prices by area so that in some places (like where I live Plano, TX) their prices are even with standard grocery stores)...

This post is a simple attack on the word liberal. I'm not on the jury or really much a part of the DU universe, but this post sounds like something you might find on another type of site.

These tweets are almost Fox-like in how they make points without context and leave out a lot of very important info (some of which I detail above). Just to take a swipe at those silly liberals.

The primary point to keep in mind is that Walmart and its business model is a major factor in creating these poor that can only shop at Walmart. Walmart is such a huge part of the national economy that it influences the national economy. I think you could make a pretty strong anti-trust argument about Walmart. It is so big that, to compete with it, other retailers have to also pay low wages, squeeze their suppliers, have excessively harsh job rules, be rabidly anti-union, buy everything from China etc.

Look at what happened when they decided to open on Thanksgiving. Most retailers followed suit.

I believe (and these tweets do nothing to change my mind) that Walmart needs to be unionized. But I also believe that we need to petition our government to look at breaking up Walmart due to its almost monopolistic power in our economy. This is what anti-trust laws were designed for.

Oh, and I bet the economic impact of Walmart paying better wages would have such a positive impact on the economy that many of the poor would end up being able to pay the somewhat higher prices that would be necessary to maintain Walmart's current margins.

I haven't found W-mart's food prices any cheaper than the other chains n2doc Nov 2012 #1
Really? In my area, it's around 20% cheaper on average. eShirl Nov 2012 #4
I'm in Georgia, and frankly Kroger is the cheapest, if you wait for sales n2doc Nov 2012 #11
Trader Joe's is cheaper than Kroger lame54 Nov 2012 #20
I wish we had one in Savannah n/t n2doc Nov 2012 #23
Yep. Usually, if it's cheaper, it's just by a couple of pennies. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #9
WalMart sells yarn? SheilaT Nov 2012 #32
Yep. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #38
I would take your statement a step further Cirque du So-What Nov 2012 #12
Agreed. However the cynical business model is infuriating. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #2
In other words, "I sold my soul to the company store" NT Sadiedog Nov 2012 #39
Pretty much. You either sell or you die. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #45
Some of the stuff is cheaper. Some is more expensive! OhZone Nov 2012 #3
I think it depends on the location. enlightenment Nov 2012 #24
And I will argue this as a counter nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #5
+1 xchrom Nov 2012 #6
I cited in the article I wrote nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #7
Nice steaming pile... 99Forever Nov 2012 #8
shopping at wal-mart does not save money arely staircase Nov 2012 #10
You are wrong about elsewhere Coyotl Nov 2012 #16
It's about the business model Moral Compass Nov 2012 #13
+1 xchrom Nov 2012 #15
Right on all points... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #17
Excellent post. ronnie624 Nov 2012 #18
+1 Incitatus Nov 2012 #28
I have found that some things are cheaper but.... prairierose Nov 2012 #14
Oh for Chrissake. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #19
While it pains me to admit it they are not 100% evil marlakay Nov 2012 #21
Baloney - Walmart's food prices suck! bhikkhu Nov 2012 #22
Their Prices do (in general) suck Moral Compass Nov 2012 #26
And why are there so many people living in poverty? Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #25
supermarkets have deeper cheaper sales graham4anything Nov 2012 #27
Exactly. That's their trick. Incitatus Nov 2012 #31
If you consider pizza, chips and soda food NickB79 Nov 2012 #29
Walmart can and should pay their employees more Marrah_G Nov 2012 #30
Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #33
yup total RW mouthpiece fronting for the company store NuttyFluffers Nov 2012 #46
If they are so great for the poor daleo Nov 2012 #34
I read or heard somewhere that if ALL the discount box stores in the US paid their workers a ...... northoftheborder Nov 2012 #35
Circular argument. Walmart kills low-cost competition, resulting in higher average prices, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #36
I won't criticize people who don't have alternatives to shopping there democrattotheend Nov 2012 #37
So Walmart preys on the poor. aandegoons Nov 2012 #40
More libertarian lies. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #41
"Wal-Mart is so cheap employers don't have to pay Americans a living wage" TeamPooka Nov 2012 #42
Wal-Mart sells groceries. rucky Nov 2012 #43
Aldi is always cheaper. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #44
They can keep their prices low while paying employees more. They have a HUGE profit margin. JaneyVee Nov 2012 #47
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