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In reply to the discussion: Let's be clear. Tribe and Weissman are full of shit about the Trump investigations [View all]Goodheart
(5,393 posts)28. Can you fit any more strawmen into one post?
Can you think of anything more absurd than spending years castigating Trump for his autocratic politicization of justice, and then complaining because your own party's president's DOJ didn't do the exact same?
How is investigating and prosecuting someone in a timely manner an "autocratic politicization of justice"? That's a deliberate misrepresentation of what's actually at play.
"as if that, by itself, would relieve Democrats of organizing that defeat at the ballot box; "
I haven't seen a single Democrat assert that prosecuting trump in a timely manner meant that we wouldn't have to defeat him in the election.
as if merely convicting or charging Trump would bar him from running or assuming office if elected.
Please link to anyone of importance who has made the assertion that prosecuting trump on time would bar him from running.
"we need to use our admin's Justice Dept. to advantage us in the election?"
What we need and have called for is justice. Would timely prosecutions have been advantageous politically? Probably, but you're putting the cart before the horse. The political advantage is consequential, not causative.
"The premise behind all of the over-the-top vitriol is that the AG has lost us the election"
I don't see many Democrats claiming we've lost the election.
I could go on and on, but others will get the point even if you don't. Your post is mighty defensive, to the point of absurdity.
How is investigating and prosecuting someone in a timely manner an "autocratic politicization of justice"? That's a deliberate misrepresentation of what's actually at play.
"as if that, by itself, would relieve Democrats of organizing that defeat at the ballot box; "
I haven't seen a single Democrat assert that prosecuting trump in a timely manner meant that we wouldn't have to defeat him in the election.
as if merely convicting or charging Trump would bar him from running or assuming office if elected.
Please link to anyone of importance who has made the assertion that prosecuting trump on time would bar him from running.
"we need to use our admin's Justice Dept. to advantage us in the election?"
What we need and have called for is justice. Would timely prosecutions have been advantageous politically? Probably, but you're putting the cart before the horse. The political advantage is consequential, not causative.
"The premise behind all of the over-the-top vitriol is that the AG has lost us the election"
I don't see many Democrats claiming we've lost the election.
I could go on and on, but others will get the point even if you don't. Your post is mighty defensive, to the point of absurdity.
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Let's be clear. Tribe and Weissman are full of shit about the Trump investigations [View all]
bigtree
Mar 22
OP
If we cannot exist within a shared reality, how can we hope to defeat fascism?
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 23
#96
There's not politicizing the DoJ, and then there's being so afraid of the appearance of being political...
Silent3
Mar 22
#7
You keep on using the term "exoneration," yet Hur specifically testified he did not exonerate Biden.
sop
Mar 23
#88
Posting on the earlier article I said the cheer leaders would be staying up
republianmushroom
Mar 22
#13
You are exactly right. Garland has been a poor AG. The OP poster keeps posting the same crap...
brush
Mar 22
#39
I have no idea. Wouldn't surprise me because of the over-the-top defensiveness.
Goodheart
Mar 22
#44
If you think his job was to win the election, you're making the same mistake Trump made about his DOJ
bigtree
Mar 22
#46
Win the election? No. His job was to prosecute the orange toad and his cabal who lead...
brush
Mar 22
#49
As bad as the NYT article is, it still destroys nearly all of the myths about Garland
Fiendish Thingy
Mar 22
#38
3 year plus is not impatience. Blind to reality is unfortunate though. He's been a poor AG.
brush
Mar 23
#54
Perfect example of a straw man: "Garland did nothing to investigate Trump until Smith was appointed"
Silent3
Mar 23
#71
it was really galling to hear the committee members like Schiff to complain about delays
bigtree
Mar 23
#93
Anonymous internet poster says renowned Constitutional scholar Lawrence Tribe is full of shit. All righty then.
jalan48
Mar 23
#69
I 100% agree. And in the case of Apollo 13, rushing rocket science is exactly what they had to do
lostnfound
Mar 23
#122
Actually, if you look at the number of recs divided by the number of views, the quotient is remarkably low.
Earth-shine
Mar 23
#103
I assume that "number of views" represents people on "both sides" of this argument.
Earth-shine
Mar 23
#106