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(23,734 posts) Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:11 AM Apr 9

Catholics are Christians [View all]

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Lately I've been heard several politician or commentators speaks of "Christians and Catholics". Jim Vandehei did it again on Morning Joe when he was grouping people who are Trumpers; "even Christians and Catholics".

Catholics are Christians just as much as Baptists, Methodists, Congregationalists, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians and many other Christian religions. In fact, many of those religions were spin offs of the Catholic religion. So why do I never hear "Christians and Baptists" or "Christians and Protestants"?

Why Is the Catholic religion separated from the other Christian grouping?

As a Catholic I just don't understand the need to separate Catholics from Christians. Am I missing something?

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Catholics are Christians [View all] Fla Dem Apr 9 OP

Simple - because Catholics treat other Christians as non-Christians. NutmegYankee Apr 9 #1

I'm sure that occurs, but I never experienced that... hlthe2b Apr 9 #3

There is no test to receive communion. Fla Dem Apr 9 #4

That is not true. NutmegYankee Apr 9 #5

No doubt there are areas of more strict standards, some of which I feel are/were overdone. Fla Dem Apr 9 #14

Practicing Catholics? He makes that distinction? maxsolomon Apr 9 #62

Maybe that is true now. I am Catholic and when I married my husband, a Methodist, in 1979, neither he nor his family debm55 Apr 9 #11

No some things don't change. Fla Dem Apr 9 #31

The priest makes it clear we are not welcome to come up NutmegYankee Apr 9 #37

There were no Eucharistic Ministers at time. I always felt bad that my husband and I could not share the Eucharist and debm55 Apr 9 #45

In other words, it's on the honor system. Ms. Toad Apr 9 #79

Pretty much. Fla Dem Apr 9 #81

Only if they ignored the directions of those conducting communion. Ms. Toad Apr 9 #74

Yes they Rebl2 Apr 9 #15

Administering Holy Communion can differ from one congregation to another Patton French Apr 9 #17

Somewhat a misunderstanding of the teaching Maeve Apr 9 #18

My parents weren't allowed communion BlueKota Apr 9 #59

Yeah, that's another reason i parted ways with them Maeve Apr 9 #67

I cracked up a few years ago when my friend, a web developer, told me she landed a site for retailer CrispyQ Apr 9 #60

What kind of fiction are you spewing? Omnipresent Apr 9 #21

Your gaslighting is noted. nt NutmegYankee Apr 9 #28

Gas lighting?? Omnipresent Apr 9 #43

You call the real experience of 10s of thousands of Protestant in Southern New England fiction. NutmegYankee Apr 9 #53

How far back was this done? Omnipresent Apr 9 #57

Just a matter of months ago at a recent funeral. NutmegYankee Apr 9 #58

Well, I'm sorry if that happens up north. Omnipresent Apr 9 #66

It's common in Alabama Ursus Rex Apr 9 #70

I had it happen to me at my weddings. While the banes of marriage were announced , we both took classes by the Diocese debm55 Apr 9 #48

No, but the opposite is true. themaguffin Apr 9 #24

It's a matter of doctrine, so I've always been told. shrike3 Apr 9 #64

I've heard the explanations before. It doesn't resolve the sense of being wronged though. NutmegYankee Apr 9 #68

Perfectly valid POV. I understand. But it doesn't mean Catholics think you're not Christian. shrike3 Apr 9 #71

Perception is reality. nt NutmegYankee Apr 9 #72

That's your perception. It's not mine, and it's certainly not the perception of every Protestant. shrike3 Apr 9 #73

I appreciate the civil discussion. NutmegYankee Apr 9 #76

I'm very sorry you feel excluded. It's an old rule and not a very popular one. shrike3 Apr 9 #78

It's a distinction without a difference. Ms. Toad Apr 9 #84

But Catholics recognize Protestants as Christians. That's the point. shrike3 Apr 9 #88

It is a historical "slur" and line of attack against the so-called Papists. hlthe2b Apr 9 #2

Interesting. Would not think such diminishing of another religion would survive centuries. Fla Dem Apr 9 #9

Oh, no. It is not new in the US. It is a historical slur here too--especially in politics. hlthe2b Apr 9 #10

Some of us remember this slur being directed at JFK Vogon_Glory Apr 9 #32

Yes... I agree. hlthe2b Apr 9 #35

Given the power, the Evangelicals will exclude many protestants from Christianity. Captain Zero Apr 9 #63

Not a new thing in America ActRaiser Apr 9 #6

Growing up in RI, and one of the few non- Catholics in my NewHendoLib Apr 9 #7

Sorry that happened to you. I was exposed to just the opposite. Kids can be terrible. Fla Dem Apr 9 #20

Although I am not personally religious, anciano Apr 9 #8

Even the KKK differentiates between Catholics and Cristians! Conjuay Apr 9 #12

Not so much during the 30s when they were often quite aligned with the racist Father Coughlin hlthe2b Apr 9 #16

It goes back to the Luther reformation Patton French Apr 9 #13

depends on who you ask dembotoz Apr 9 #19

yeah... while Mormons consider themselves Christian, many Christian denominations believe otherwise. hlthe2b Apr 9 #23

I've heard that too from fundamentalists Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 9 #55

Because people are tribalistic and hierarchical ismnotwasm Apr 9 #22

"Why Is the Catholic religion separated from the other Christian grouping?" brooklynite Apr 9 #25

trump made the same separation in his bullshit Easter comments themaguffin Apr 9 #26

It's just ignorance. Thay don't know what they're talking about. brush Apr 9 #27

Jim VandeHei, who is referenced in the original post is Catholic himself. LeftInTX Apr 9 #46

Comparing different Christiarn faiths to each other is one thing... brush Apr 9 #49

Arguably, the people saying this aren't christians either. sop Apr 9 #29

I have heard the term "Mary worshippers" used a pejorative. LakeArenal Apr 9 #30

There is a lot of baggage to this ... part of it is claims by opposing groups saying the other is going to hell. JT45242 Apr 9 #33

500 years of history? Voltaire2 Apr 9 #34

Ironically, one person who wasn't a Christian was a fella' name Jesus of Nazareth. Ping Tung Apr 9 #36

You are missing the last 500 years of history. Caliman73 Apr 9 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Apr 9 #39

They are, but it could depend on the context. Catholics and Protestants are historically different voting blocs LeftInTX Apr 9 #40

Maybe they're angry and feeling left out because Tom Lehrer never wrote a song about them. DFW Apr 9 #41

It comes from evangelicals and fundamentalists. Elessar Zappa Apr 9 #42

Thats it exactly Mosby Apr 9 #47

The Orthodox are older. Some still say the Mass in Aramaic debm55 Apr 9 #52

Speaking as an atheist who was raised as a Jew, you guys all look the same to me DavidDvorkin Apr 9 #44

There's some of this on both sides of the Catholic/Protestant divide... keep_left Apr 9 #50

You may be shocked, but the simple truth is that there are tens of millions of Protestants in America elocs Apr 9 #51

Indeed they are NanaCat Apr 9 #54

My wife was raised as a Catholic DFW Apr 9 #56

Catholics are Christians. lees1975 Apr 9 #61

No offense, but shouldn't this be in the Religion forum? shrike3 Apr 9 #65

Yes, You're probably right. When I posted it I thought of it as more of a political issue. Fla Dem Apr 9 #80

Yes, very thought-provoking. There was a thread on Catholicism last week that was locked. shrike3 Apr 9 #82

To me, Christians (including Catholics) are people who behave as Jesus taught. usonian Apr 9 #69

Jeezus was a Catholic Redleg Apr 9 #75

I thought he was antifa? getagrip_already Apr 9 #83

Catholics, themselves separate themselves from other Christians. Ms. Toad Apr 9 #77

Ms. Toad, what you posted is very good. You posted catholic with a lower case "c" as opposed to an upper case. "c" debm55 Apr 9 #85

Growing up as a protestant Bettie Apr 9 #86

Locking sarisataka Apr 9 #87