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Cuthbert Allgood

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193. That's what we can absolutely agree on.

Thu Jun 27, 2024, 08:41 PM

Jun 2024

For my communication masters, I had a political science minor. My rhetoric class went crazy into the Nixon/Kennedy debates as did my modern presidency poli sci class. I could bore the absolute hell out of anyone on the topic of that debate.

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Debate Thread #1 [View all] Wednesdays Jun 2024 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #1

No problem. Wednesdays Jun 2024 #5

So, do you think TCF will melt down Wednesdays Jun 2024 #2

Both. And possibly during the debate as well. Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #134

Go Biden... electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #3

I'm relying on my DU fam. I'm too goddamn Grown2Hate Jun 2024 #4

Don't be afraid senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #8

Joe will do fine. Wednesdays Jun 2024 #12

One reason I'm watching it is so I know what is real Marthe48 Jun 2024 #48

Thank you. I can't. I rely on people like you, here. onecaliberal Jun 2024 #55

No matter what VGuerra276 Jun 2024 #130

I tried to watch. ChazInAz Jun 2024 #129

Ten whole minutes? Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #151

Whew Katcat Jun 2024 #176

Go Joe! skylucy Jun 2024 #6

Joes got it! ALBliberal Jun 2024 #7

Here we go! Let's go Joe Emile Jun 2024 #9

Thanks for doing the thread. Let's see what Trump personality shows up! FloridaBlues Jun 2024 #10

And here we go. Xavier Breath Jun 2024 #11

ABC is making it look like a pro wrestling match in a preview dweller Jun 2024 #13

Gotta say the msnbc pundits were all very well spoken in the pre-show lindysalsagal Jun 2024 #14

No handshake. Wednesdays Jun 2024 #15

that was agreed upon in advance. cab67 Jun 2024 #201

How is this possible orangecrush Jun 2024 #16

I know. FalloutShelter Jun 2024 #44

Wish Biden had chosen to speak last electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #17

I do not understand how the position on stage Abolishinist Jun 2024 #25

I don't know about anybody else, Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #106

Exactly!!! niyad Jun 2024 #202

Hopefully a time limit Rebl2 Jun 2024 #207

Thank dog they didn't shake hands! lindysalsagal Jun 2024 #18

Kick his ass, Joe! edbermac Jun 2024 #19

Can someone get him some water? AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #76

Agree. Took 10 minutes for his dry throat to go away. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2024 #146

He sounds hoarse Emile Jun 2024 #20

Yeah Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #21

yes he should slow down Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #29

I was just Delphinus Jun 2024 #22

Yes, talking fast. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #24

Im not watching who sounds horse. DemocracyWorks Jun 2024 #31

Joe PatSeg Jun 2024 #35

Joe Emile Jun 2024 #36

I'm sure that's gonna be seized on by everyone too ITAL Jun 2024 #32

Probably from Rebl2 Jun 2024 #211

They start right in on the economy. CousinIT Jun 2024 #23

I hope electric_blue68 Jun 2024 #43

Lie #1 malaise Jun 2024 #26

But of course! Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #170

I'm sorry MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #37

First question so typical senseandsensibility Jun 2024 #28

Right off the bat orangecrush Jun 2024 #34

Joe's mic sounds muffled orangecrush Jun 2024 #30

I thought that too. LisaM Jun 2024 #41

And no one orangecrush Jun 2024 #52

True, but thats generally his speaking voice, elleng Jun 2024 #63

I noticed that too MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #42

Yes the sound quality is not good. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #54

I bailed as soon as Trump opened his mouth. yardwork Jun 2024 #33

I'm muting the convicted felon but watching President Biden's facial expressions Siwsan Jun 2024 #45

I'm about to call it a night. I can't make it to 11 with this shit. AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #141

I started watching again. Joe's doing better. yardwork Jun 2024 #156

Yeah...but it wasn't a great start. AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #165

No it wasn't. calimary Jun 2024 #182

just so you know NJCher Jun 2024 #224

I heard that while I was out walking the dogs. WTF????? FoxNewsSucks Jun 2024 #229

Didn't take Trump long to lie standingtall Jun 2024 #38

Right, NO TIME at all. elleng Jun 2024 #46

It's just lie, lie, lie birdographer Jun 2024 #216

The Stock Market is higher now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2024 #39

I Hate to Say It... DET Jun 2024 #40

Terrified that this is a disaster cally Jun 2024 #47

I'm sick to my stomach hibbing Jun 2024 #91

I had to leave the room Random Boomer Jun 2024 #241

I had to turn it off after about fifteen seconds Tribetime Jun 2024 #49

Me too PatSeg Jun 2024 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Idaho Jun 2024 #51

I agree MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #53

I agree. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #57

Yes, he sounds slow. I hope he gets his Irish temper up? Peregrine Took Jun 2024 #59

Why is he so nervous. PCIntern Jun 2024 #64

Get that man some cough drops. tinrobot Jun 2024 #70

The pause was bad. underpants Jun 2024 #90

Biden is struggling hamsterjill Jun 2024 #166

That's what scares me - to the inattentive public, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2024 #231

Deleted AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #172

I'm looking at it this way AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #189

The convicted felon's handlers must have urged him to limit his accordion playing gestures Siwsan Jun 2024 #56

Don't know what they gave Trump Tree Lady Jun 2024 #72

It's the words that matter, not how they are said. Siwsan Jun 2024 #147

Of course I agree with you Tree Lady Jun 2024 #168

Oh, please. Since debates were televised it was all about image. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #169

I respect your opinion Siwsan Jun 2024 #177

That's what we can absolutely agree on. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #193

I just remember seeing video of Nixon sweating. A lot. Profusely. Abundantly. Siwsan Jun 2024 #197

OK. Prepare to be bored. I'll keep it short. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #206

This kind of info never bores me Siwsan Jun 2024 #210

It's not boring at all, FoxNewsSucks Jun 2024 #233

My god, it appears he actually listened to someone PatSeg Jun 2024 #79

And he hasn't talked about cannabis_flower Jun 2024 #215

No super crazy talk, just typical Trump lies PatSeg Jun 2024 #230

Biden has a frog in his throat Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #58

He has been doing a lot of campaigning. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #66

Where's the fact-checker ? dweller Jun 2024 #60

There is no fact checker GaYellowDawg Jun 2024 #84

No, they said the moderators wouldn't fact-check. TwilightZone Jun 2024 #239

Can hardly hear Joe orangecrush Jun 2024 #61

Needs tiny eucalyptus mints to clear his throat n/t malaise Jun 2024 #62

Trump spew. This is what he will do for the next hour.nt Javaman Jun 2024 #65

So far, Biden's a bit mumbly 0rganism Jun 2024 #67

This is bad so far Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #68

multiple ones Celerity Jun 2024 #92

This is bad so far Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #69

This is an absolute disaster. GaYellowDawg Jun 2024 #71

I am agitated beyond description Martin Eden Jun 2024 #221

I'm a little worried about Joe. nolabear Jun 2024 #73

I'm a little worried about Joe. nolabear Jun 2024 #74

Yeah. Me too. calimary Jun 2024 #192

I'm sorry I just can't watch..... a kennedy Jun 2024 #74

Biden looks and sounds Mossfern Jun 2024 #77

Tscf is controlling himself so far. But it's just the same immigrant crap lindysalsagal Jun 2024 #78

Trump lies through his ass Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2024 #80

This is not good. SamKnause Jun 2024 #81

Oh, for crap's sake -- I had to quit already. tsf is just regurgitating his memorized talking points ... eppur_se_muova Jun 2024 #82

Lie after lie after lie. Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #116

Not looking good for Joe so far In It to Win It Jun 2024 #83

Honestly, Not Off To A Good Start! COREY.BAKER Jun 2024 #85

They seem to be giving Trump more time to talk mtngirl47 Jun 2024 #86

They are orangecrush Jun 2024 #113

Joe doesn't sound or look strong- Quakerfriend Jun 2024 #87

Trump is lying through his teeth, as usual. Nt Grumpy Old Guy Jun 2024 #88

Honestly, Not Off To A Good Start! COREY.BAKER Jun 2024 #89

They're letting Trump run on and on. Liberal In Texas Jun 2024 #93

Joe isn't doing very well Beachnutt Jun 2024 #94

ok, it seems like he is ramping up to real Joe- ness... consider_this Jun 2024 #95

It's not abortion after birth Donny Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2024 #96

On Predictit, Trump is now soaring and Biden plummeting DavidDvorkin Jun 2024 #97

Is anyone going to fact check? EndlessWire Jun 2024 #98

Absofreakinglutely, people are fact checking Mersky Jun 2024 #155

PBS is doing a live fact-check. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #183

Joe is finally warmed up. Took him a minute but he's on it now .nt Javaman Jun 2024 #99

Joe is finally warmed up. Took him a minute but he's on it now .nt Javaman Jun 2024 #100

No, no, no... TSExile Jun 2024 #101

Debbie Downers are full force LW1977 Jun 2024 #102

Disagree, it's objectively going very badly garybeck Jun 2024 #124

agree Celerity Jun 2024 #161

Sunshine pumping is goddamn stupid GaYellowDawg Jun 2024 #154

sunshine pumping, never heard that expression before, but it is a good one Celerity Jun 2024 #167

Good term! It applies to several people. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2024 #226

Ignoring reality is what MAGA does Random Boomer Jun 2024 #243

On the topic of abortion and Roe, Joe looked good and spoke strongly. In It to Win It Jun 2024 #103

Joe needs to calm down. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2024 #104

How do you debate lies. You can say any. fucking. thing. spanone Jun 2024 #105

Pound the podium! Call him a convicted liar!!! Go Joe! Peregrine Took Jun 2024 #115

Biden's getting mad from all the lies. More power in his voice. scipan Jun 2024 #107

He sounds horse today DemocracyWorks Jun 2024 #108

Why does that moderator keep calling TCF "President"? ChazInAz Jun 2024 #109

All ex Presidents are referred to by the honorific 'President'. Just like when referring to kelly1mm Jun 2024 #178

It's what you do. People say President Obama and Secretary Clinton all the time. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2024 #188

Joe looks and sounds old Goodheart Jun 2024 #110

they overworked him. Overpracticed ecstatic Jun 2024 #111

Exactly bagimin Jun 2024 #120

I was thinking the same thing. Silver Gaia Jun 2024 #148

PBS is fact-checking Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #190

Thats good, but there's no fact-checking on the CNN feed. Silver Gaia Jun 2024 #196

They announced in advance they were not doing fact-checking. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2024 #204

Joe warming up Johnny2X2X Jun 2024 #112

Much worse than I imagined possible. Abolishinist Jun 2024 #114

Where's the State of the Union Joe!?????? Peregrine Took Jun 2024 #121

No shit! That's who I tuned in to see. FoxNewsSucks Jun 2024 #228

Yeah, this is unsettling PatSeg Jun 2024 #125

Hundreds of thousands Donny? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2024 #117

Jeez. Joe Biden looks horrid. Oneironaut Jun 2024 #118

Trump's lighting is better orangecrush Jun 2024 #122

Post removed Post removed Jun 2024 #127

I think Joe looks fine. mahina Jun 2024 #149

Trump uses bronzer, Joe doesn't LeftInTX Jun 2024 #131

I had to leave the room. bamagal62 Jun 2024 #119

I'm signing off. Ilsa Jun 2024 #123

It's not going well. Jirel Jun 2024 #126

Joe's had it now, calling out Trump's lies. emulatorloo Jun 2024 #144

Oh my. SamKnause Jun 2024 #128

I feel the same Happygram Jun 2024 #179

"The U.S. will be unrecognizable." Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #220

Ugh Wavelight Jun 2024 #132

All we're getting is Trump's rally bullshit GaYellowDawg Jun 2024 #133

Ooh, Joe is getting under TSF's skin! nt Wednesdays Jun 2024 #135

Trumps image is larger on the screen orangecrush Jun 2024 #136

Trump is lying!! Catherine Vincent Jun 2024 #137

the sky is blue consider_this Jun 2024 #157

Can do Joe. Sending love. mahina Jun 2024 #138

YES orangecrush Jun 2024 #139

Trump is staring to lose it, Biden is getting better. Joe Cool Jun 2024 #140

Not a good start, but it might be turning localroger Jun 2024 #142

President Biden Nailed The Morherfucker WiVoter Jun 2024 #143

Debate Thread #2 Wednesdays Jun 2024 #145

"THE IDEA THAT I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU FOR ANYTHING" orangecrush Jun 2024 #150

I'm a veteran... EndlessWire Jun 2024 #152

Joe is getting mad. Maybe that will help. Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #153

Oh, he just basically did what I hoped he would do! Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #162

I agree and said something similar - post 174 liberalla Jun 2024 #184

Can't John Kelly verify the "suckers" insult? AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #158

John Kelly confirms Trump's 'suckers' remark about war dead Celerity Jun 2024 #181

This needs to be big news tomorrow. Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #191

unfortunately in the arena of politics as gladiatorial spectacle, millions of observers will fall for a confidently Celerity Jun 2024 #200

Kelly also lost a son. AngryOldDem Jun 2024 #198

WTF orangecrush Jun 2024 #159

Trump: gish gallop of lies. Hard to refute them all scipan Jun 2024 #160

The Gish galloping is awful. diane in sf Jun 2024 #163

How is Trump getting more time? Demsrule86 Jun 2024 #164

It does seem like it doesn't it? Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #180

Not watching on TV richdj25 Jun 2024 #171

I tend to look downward when he speaks Mersky Jun 2024 #186

Not watching either for the same reason. Dave Bowman Jun 2024 #225

Doesn't matter..... DEM1955 Jun 2024 #173

He's coming back! In the last 2 minutes something happened, Joe smiled, said Malarky! And... liberalla Jun 2024 #174

Biden, close your mouth. Good points so far. scipan Jun 2024 #175

Ooh Trump is starting to make faces. nt Susan Calvin Jun 2024 #185

Debate Thread #2 Wednesdays Jun 2024 #187

Trump did NOT offer Nancy Pelosi 10,000 troops! His lying about January 6th is INCREDIBLE!!! GET HIM JOE! LaMouffette Jun 2024 #194

The election is a long way off. Grumpy Old Guy Jun 2024 #195

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2024 #205

All true. Grumpy Old Guy Jun 2024 #208

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2024 #209

Maybe he can catch his breath during the break. Grumpy Old Guy Jun 2024 #213

Can't really watch. cab67 Jun 2024 #199

"You have the morals of an Alley Cat!" FirstLight Jun 2024 #203

Debate Thread #2 Wednesdays Jun 2024 #212

Frog-Mouth Trump Mr.Bee Jun 2024 #214

Hard to debate a liar. Someone needs to point out that Trump is lying about everything. lees1975 Jun 2024 #217

The give away is Taper saying thank you mr president to dump. Bluethroughu Jun 2024 #218

At the beginning, it was "Former President Trump" Seinan Sensei Jun 2024 #247

It's disgusting. Bluethroughu Jun 2024 #248

Halfway through and had to turn it off jmbar2 Jun 2024 #219

Joe is 81 and to formalize words with data on a dime. Smackdown2019 Jun 2024 #222

Not sure what happened but this is not good oldmanlynn Jun 2024 #223

This is awful stage left Jun 2024 #227

Why? richdj25 Jun 2024 #232

This is hard to watch, mostly cuz of TFG FirstLight Jun 2024 #234

I love Joe, but why Chicagogrl1 Jun 2024 #235

Unfortunately markodochartaigh Jun 2024 #236

I was in shock AlexSFCA Jun 2024 #237

Fucking asteroid catastrophically bad. hay rick Jun 2024 #238

I'm afraid that sums it up SCantiGOP Jun 2024 #242

Oh dear flying-skeleton Jun 2024 #240

Joe failed Sessuch Jun 2024 #244

President Biden sanduca Jun 2024 #245

This is a farce. Frank D. Lincoln Jun 2024 #246

Did Project 2025 come up? XanaDUer2 Jun 2024 #249