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Deek1935

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48. Debates and polls are completely non-predictive of ultimate presidential election results. Plain and simple. ZERO.
Wed Jul 3, 2024, 06:22 PM
Jul 2024

It is GOVERNING that matters and not debates and polls. Polls go up and down and full of variables and are not predictive value. I can give you many examples of where presidential candidates were up or down in the polls and outcome was in contrast to what the polls said. Debates have never mattered. It is GOVERNING RECORD that matters, and Biden's is damn good.

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Well stated. I've posted very little since the Israel Palestine NewHendoLib Jul 2024 #1
Fwiw, Predictit currently places the odds re- the Presidential election as follows: snot Jul 2024 #2
I also go to predictit for all my financial decisions fwiw Nimble_Idea Jul 2024 #8
If these sites were more liquid, they would be valid ways to estimate odds. Lucky Luciano Jul 2024 #13
Well if that shitstain predictitt said it, then it must be the fucking gospel. SoFlaBro Jul 2024 #16
While i think we have a serious problem quakerboy Jul 2024 #25
Easy Money on Biden Traurigkeit Jul 2024 #55
I think we're more likely to lose than win at this point FBaggins Jul 2024 #61
Transaction costs are very high, so not clear if there is easy money Lucky Luciano Jul 2024 #67
The 'Dem nomination' odds have moved to about radius777 Jul 2024 #87
K & R. Xavier Breath Jul 2024 #3
Thank you. Silent3 Jul 2024 #4
People like lots of exclamation points!!!!!! AND CAPS. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #28
GREAT POST!!! Think. Again. Jul 2024 #41
I'd like to read your comment but you only have four exclamation points. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #43
My limit is 3 exclamation points. Except when someone forgets to use the sarcasm japple Jul 2024 #51
Use all caps too. Fight fire with fire. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #52
Most people here are very loyal to the President, and believe that keeping the faith Wingus Dingus Jul 2024 #5
Um, it is not a possibility to successfully replace Biden on the ticket. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #42
Well said WD. Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #56
We must support the nominee. DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #70
I know the right choice, pretty easy Nimble_Idea Jul 2024 #6
He is not yet officially our candidate. Goodheart Jul 2024 #7
so then we can continue the primary debates? Nimble_Idea Jul 2024 #9
Thank you! blurplenurple Jul 2024 #10
Then there is the charge that if you have any concerns about Biden's debate performance iemanja Jul 2024 #18
I agree, we see a deep insecurity about the election or there would not be Irish_Dem Jul 2024 #34
Because Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #27
No one here wants Trump back in the White House iemanja Jul 2024 #50
What I cannot grok is Only X can win in combination with TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #36
Another aspect: snot Jul 2024 #11
Well, technically there were primaries iemanja Jul 2024 #19
Correction: Biden did not participate in any primary debates. snot Jul 2024 #22
Great idea and hadn't thought about it that way before confoosed Jul 2024 #68
Primaries against incumbent presidents tend to end disastrously. Spencer Martin Jul 2024 #79
That might be the best take I have seen on this subject genxlib Jul 2024 #12
Very well done hueymahl Jul 2024 #14
I admire your fealty to reality iemanja Jul 2024 #15
Here is one irrefutable fact, President Biden said he is not quitting this race. He is the decider so all this arguing ImNotGod Jul 2024 #17
All I know is that I'm anxious beyond measure. Any path forward is a minefield. tinrobot Jul 2024 #20
Look, it's a given that DU members will vote for whomever is the D candidate. harumph Jul 2024 #21
Thank you. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #23
Biden is NOT getting out. He said it. End of story. We all need to support our nominee. Period. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #24
Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #26
What does that mean to you? TexasDem69 Jul 2024 #32
Debates and polls are completely non-predictive of ultimate presidential election results. Plain and simple. ZERO. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #48
You keep saying that and you cite zero evidence TexasDem69 Jul 2024 #60
"...ignoring the polls..." would be a good idea. dchill Jul 2024 #72
I'm with you! Dem4life1234 Jul 2024 #37
THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2024 #29
Trump SUX texasfiddler Jul 2024 #30
IOW Skittles Jul 2024 #31
True. nt delisen Jul 2024 #33
There's an Armenian saying that a person who tells hard truths is driven out of a dozen villages DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2024 #35
Thank you. honest.abe Jul 2024 #38
All this non-stop nonsense about Biden is simply writing Fox news and GOP talking points for them. hadEnuf Jul 2024 #39
I am trying to be as fact-based as possible, and my mind is made up. If Biden withdraws... Rstrstx Jul 2024 #40
You just described pretty much where I am at. ShazzieB Jul 2024 #74
hem. ive been here since 2000 so i take that as a slap in the face AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #44
i also support jo biden, my opinions are just that and do not neccesarly reflects dus opinio AllaN01Bear Jul 2024 #45
I'm with Biden Now is the Time Jul 2024 #46
Nice opinions. No Facts Sessuch Jul 2024 #47
I hear you, but my take is: Joinfortmill Jul 2024 #49
Thank you! H2O Man Jul 2024 #53
"...only Biden himself can make the decision..." dchill Jul 2024 #54
You want a fact? Bobstandard Jul 2024 #57
JFC. Joe had a bad debate. MontanaMama Jul 2024 #58
FFS it's not us that need to be told that. Biden needs to get ahead of this. Period. themaguffin Jul 2024 #62
Have you read the comments on this thread MontanaMama Jul 2024 #63
It doesn't change that good faith discussion can happen. themaguffin Jul 2024 #64
Thank you for this excellent post and balanced response dwking66 Jul 2024 #59
K&R meadowlander Jul 2024 #65
Very well thought out, and very well stated. Abolishinist Jul 2024 #66
I believe it is required that we support the nominee. Biden is the nominee. DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #69
Remind me - when did we hold the convention? Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #71
Presumptive Nominee. I forego the "presumptive" for brevity and, in my opinion, clarity. DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #73
Link, please. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #76
Of Course DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #81
First - I don't recall a declaration that the primary season was over. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #86
Biden is the presumptive candidate, but not yet the general election candidate. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #89
Whether the talk is on DU or not is irrelevant iemanja Jul 2024 #82
A smart, cogent post. Perhaps the best one I've seen on this topic. Music Man Jul 2024 #75
Please, everyone who is asking Biden to step down, please let us know how many presidential Bev54 Jul 2024 #77
Both sides need to let that discussion for those in the know DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #83
Where did the OP ask Biden to step down? iemanja Jul 2024 #88
Like the Devil tries to make you think he doesn't exist, Turbineguy Jul 2024 #78
Baseball analogy - JoeB for 3+ years as opposed to the SlobFather has NoMoreRepugs Jul 2024 #80
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2024 #85
Unfortunately, opinion and fact are all too often conflated. Patton French Jul 2024 #90
it's not a 'theory' that there is a wide spread rw conspiracy to end our democracy. mopinko Jul 2024 #91
Keep in mind that polls are snapshots in time LeftInTX Jul 2024 #92
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