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MineralMan

(147,230 posts)
Tue Jul 16, 2024, 03:59 PM Jul 2024

Don't Have Your Passport? Get one! Here's Why. [View all]

There is a non-zero chance that Trump is going to get elected. Some think it's odds-on that he will. I don't think so, but I was wrong in 2016, too.

Why a passport? Let me give you an example from today. My Minnesota Driver's License needed to be renewed. It got renewed in 2020 by mail, due to the pandemic, but not this year. Since things are getting stickier and stickier out there, I decided to go ahead and get the Real ID version.

So, I showed up at the local DVS license and registration office this morning. The county has one. No appointment, which meant that I had to cool my heels there for a couple of hours. That gave me a chance to watch folks get or try to get their Driver's Licenses while I waited. I had everything I needed to get the Real ID. Lots of people, however, did not. And there's a catch - one people don't know about. The required proof of identity, proof of citizenship, and proof of residence stuff must all have your full name. First, Middle, and Last. If you're a married woman who assumed her husband's name, you'll also need your Marriage Certificate, too, along with birth certificate. All have to have your full name.

I knew that, so I brought my Passport, which has that and is proof of citizenship, as well. I had to prove that I lived where I lived. That's trickier. Those documents, too, have to have your full name. No initials. If you have a Jr. or something added, they all have to have that, too. There's a long list of things you can use, but the two you bring have to include your full name and current address that matches the one on your existing driver's license.

I watched, as person after person did not have the documents needed with them. Mostly, it was due to the lack of the identical full name. I understand. I often use my first name, middle initial, last name, and Jr. on stuff. You might, too. It's not enough. It can be a real scramble to find everything you need.

Fortunately, in Minnesota, one of the address samples is a vehicle title with your current address on it. Minnesota vehicle titles require full names. I had one of those, my Passport, My current Driver's license, and the title for one of my cars was all I needed. One guy was there at the window when I came in. When I left, two hours later, he was still there, trying to find some document that met the requirements in the stack he had. He was also Black, and spoke with an accent. He was leaving as I left, but without getting his driver's license renewed.

So, let's think about the MAGA bunch getting control of government. They have plans. They have schemes. All designed to strip people of their rights to vote and to do many other things. Before it becomes impossible to get a passport, you should get one. Now. Not later. Do whatever it is you need to do to have the documents you need for that. Don't wait until it becomes almost impossible if more restrictions are put on the Passport requirements.

If you're a woman. If you're brown. If you have an odd, foreign sounding name. Get your passport. If you don't have one, get one before inauguration day in 2025. Just in case. You may find out you need it for many reasons. Don't get caught without it, please.

Just saying. Or, go sit in the driver's license line for a couple of hours and see how much trouble people are already having there. Get your documents together and store them safely. You may need them.

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Kick dalton99a Jul 2024 #1
For people who have a different name than their birth name, and have changed names more than once, it is even worse. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #2
Another Way To Possibly Disenfranchise One Particular Sex modrepub Jul 2024 #31
And trans individuals. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #40
Especially trans people TommyT139 Jul 2024 #106
Absolutely. My post was only addressing proving a name change, Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #111
Agree. Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #3
There isn't a citizenship requirement. Marcus IM Jul 2024 #4
True. That is for the Real ID part. MineralMan Jul 2024 #12
Non citizen resident aliens can get a Real ID .. Marcus IM Jul 2024 #17
Excellent idea. I have a passport due for renewal next year. I may renew it early now. Lonestarblue Jul 2024 #5
Do it -- I just did, and it took THIRTEEN DAYS obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #7
I don't believe your passport needs to be active in order to use it for RealID purposes. Even having an expired beaglelover Jul 2024 #10
In MN it has to be current. MineralMan Jul 2024 #13
Just googled and it looks like you are correct. Mine has never expired since I was 2 years old. :) beaglelover Jul 2024 #15
Expired within 5 years can get you a new passport, Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #42
I just sent my passport renewal application last week. Casandia Jul 2024 #82
Good advice. QED Jul 2024 #6
Bank has to be open. MineralMan Jul 2024 #14
I thought you didn't need RealID if you have a passport. Many can't afford passports. live love laugh Jul 2024 #8
True, bot for domestic flights MineralMan Jul 2024 #16
When you renew your drivers license you get a Real ID drivers license. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #68
I'm so confused... OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #9
I have read before it's easier Rebl2 Jul 2024 #19
A bank statement MineralMan Jul 2024 #41
Was going to Rebl2 Jul 2024 #65
Yes, it can be easier, depending on your state. MineralMan Jul 2024 #20
This thread has convinced me... OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #69
But will you need Real ID to fly within the US? not fooled Jul 2024 #83
Passport works as ID MineralMan Jul 2024 #88
Thanks not fooled Jul 2024 #97
If you DO get a new passport - also get the "Passport Card" with it BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #110
Excellent. Thanks! n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #116
This is from Texas, but Real ID appears to be DL or just an ID MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #26
Once you have one, you're good. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #55
Oh thank God. I renewed my Texas drivers license during the pandemic and it has the star. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #99
Go to your state's division of motor vehicles to learn the exact requirements for Real ID. pnwmom Jul 2024 #35
I tried it a few years ago. slightlv Jul 2024 #75
I know how you feel but don't give up. Get a passport or a Real ID. nt pnwmom Jul 2024 #76
To get a Real ID, you need to prove your current legal name. Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #47
Wow that is quite the process just to renew your D/L Bev54 Jul 2024 #11
The USA is different. MineralMan Jul 2024 #22
It used to be like that in the US, but republicans want to make everything harder MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #23
Yes! Horse with no Name Jul 2024 #33
De[ends on the state. Gun permit is not acceptable ID in Ohio. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #50
Yeah, I was only talking about Texas MagickMuffin Jul 2024 #52
There was something as weird as a gun license that could be used until last year - Ms. Toad Jul 2024 #56
Getting a non-Real ID driver's license is that easy in Minnesota geardaddy Jul 2024 #32
In Canada they're not trying to make it harder for people to vote. (Yet.) nt pnwmom Jul 2024 #36
Not much different in Kentucky Bayard Jul 2024 #43
Was it for a Real ID? And was your old license also a Real ID? That's what we'll all need pnwmom Jul 2024 #73
We all need to be aware of and have citizenship papers handy in case Trump wins. LonePirate Jul 2024 #18
Exactly! MineralMan Jul 2024 #21
Yeah, as far as the federal govt is concerned, i have an alias.... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #24
I got my Real ID years ago. It wasn't hard, but... LisaM Jul 2024 #25
I generally keep my passport in my purse. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2024 #27
Also bdamomma Jul 2024 #70
Thanks for reminding me. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2024 #85
Everyone in my house has a NYS id that is also a land-crossing passport to Canada and Mexico. One less thing. eggplant Jul 2024 #28
What is a NYS id I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2024 #98
New York State enhanced driver license (and id card for our non-driver). eggplant Jul 2024 #100
God help you if there are typos on any of your documents IronLionZion Jul 2024 #29
my county clerk and recorder wouldn't answer the question about the veracity of the 2020 election mountain grammy Jul 2024 #30
Thanks MM. Scruffy1 Jul 2024 #34
In addition to the passport booklet. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2024 #37
Passport AND Real ID drivers license Maeve Jul 2024 #38
This is ridiculous Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #39
It is what it is. MineralMan Jul 2024 #45
They have had more than enough time Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #57
I deal with reality, not should be. MineralMan Jul 2024 #63
Can you still have to take your shoes off k55f5r Jul 2024 #115
I'm getting realid tomorrow XanaDUer2 Jul 2024 #44
You need whatever documents MineralMan Jul 2024 #48
I found an electric bill with my full name XanaDUer2 Jul 2024 #51
MineralMan ............ Upthevibe Jul 2024 #46
That is excellent advice for anyone who can still travel Warpy Jul 2024 #49
Yes. My cruise leaves for the Panama Canal on November 12. tavernier Jul 2024 #53
Passports are not accepted for travel if the expiration date is 6 months or less. live love laugh Jul 2024 #61
Passport Herkimer Jul 2024 #54
They are not quite as strict in PA re: full name. Quakerfriend Jul 2024 #58
Spot on. Good advice. I and my family already have renewed passports, all for the same reasons. Options. ancianita Jul 2024 #59
Good Idea... I'm also making sure I have adequate protection for my family and property. Chakaconcarne Jul 2024 #60
Makes sense. Forewarned is forearmed. calimary Jul 2024 #62
I had trouble using my Real ID when I went to scan it to verify identification for an Backseat Driver Jul 2024 #64
Great information bdamomma Jul 2024 #66
We got our passports a couple years ago looking ahead for exactly what you mention. oldsoftie Jul 2024 #67
I completed my DS11 online Sunday ArkansasDemocrat1 Jul 2024 #71
I didn't need all that. idahoblue Jul 2024 #72
what if you don't have a middle name . . . SarcasticSatyr Jul 2024 #74
Neither did my father-in-law. But the Ilsa Jul 2024 #80
I myself served in the Navy from 1982 - 1986 SarcasticSatyr Jul 2024 #90
Would voter registration card work for personal id with correct info? WhiteTara Jul 2024 #77
OMGAWD.......thank you so much for this info.....getting my license renewed in Sept..... a kennedy Jul 2024 #78
Married women need to make certain at least one Ilsa Jul 2024 #79
Real ID is optional in PA PennRalphie Jul 2024 #81
Have a real birth certificate from ur state of birth, NOT WHATEVER THE HOSPITAL GAVE YOUR MOM progree Jul 2024 #84
Thank you for this public service! brakester Jul 2024 #86
My passport expired a couple of years ago, and... LudwigPastorius Jul 2024 #87
Thanks so much. I have a question brakester Jul 2024 #89
Kick orangecrush Jul 2024 #91
Kicking! NoSheep Jul 2024 #92
Thanks for the reminder! n/t ihaveaquestion Jul 2024 #93
The reason WHY this is happening because of yet ANOTHER MAGA ATTACK ON VOTING RIGHTS: See SAVE Act B.See Jul 2024 #94
The bill I used for proof of residence (either cable or electric, I don't remember) dflprincess Jul 2024 #95
Kick Hekate Jul 2024 #96
Well that opened a can of worms intrepidity Jul 2024 #101
I told my husband that today. woodsprite Jul 2024 #102
"YOUR PAPERS ARE NOT IN ORDER!" BamaRefugee Jul 2024 #103
I know what you mean sdfernando Jul 2024 #104
When the orange con man was elected in 2016 ... Jeebo Jul 2024 #105
What a performance these days! DFW Jul 2024 #107
When Trump won in 2016 mnhtnbb Jul 2024 #108
Just renewed mine - but won't be renewing my PA driving license as I'm not going back GoneOffShore Jul 2024 #109
That's one of the reasons why I didn't change my last name when I got married way back when. catbyte Jul 2024 #112
Found this conversation on Reddit. Interesting workaround... Purrfessor Jul 2024 #113
I have been beating this drum for several years localroger Jul 2024 #114
Same in my state. snot Jul 2024 #117
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