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Self Esteem

(912 posts)
Fri Jul 19, 2024, 08:28 PM Jul 19

Here is what I believe and it ain't pretty... [View all]

Let me start by saying I absolutely believe every single Democrat who has come out against Biden running for reelection these last few days wants Donald Trump to lose.

I don't think that's really up for debate.

But it's telling that the Democrats who have come out against Biden are generally congressional Democrats.

I find that key because congressional Democrats, whether people want to believe it or not, oftentimes raise their money through the national party and big donors. It's just the reality. Especially in a presidential election. Most congressional candidates running across this country are not going to get a bulk of their money for their campaign from small doners like a presidential candidate might. They often don't run national campaigns and their districts are not populated enough to support the financing of those campaigns.

The truth is that we know big donors are threatening House and Senate Democrats with funding. This isn't some conspiracy. It's fact.

One example is Tom Strickler, who founded the talent agency WME. He is on record saying to Senator Martin Heinrich, who today announced Biden should not run for reelection, that if he did not come out demanding Biden step aside, he would not get a dime from him.

Surprise! Heinrich announces he's not supporting Biden.

I know we want to believe this is entirely driven by the need to win. The facts don't seem to support that. Yes, Nancy Pelosi is a dedicated public servant and someone who deserves our trust. But she's also a politician and she knows the game. She knows if these Democrats continue to support Biden publicly, regardless if she agrees with it or not, the big party donors are going to close their wallets to the party and many of these candidates in swing districts.

At the end of the day, while Pelosi absolutely wants Trump to lose in November, I think she wants Democrats to take back the House more. And as much as Schumer wants Trump to lose in November, he absolutely wants to keep his majority more.

And that's why there's no plan outside forcing Biden out. There doesn't need to be a plan with these donors. They've said, point blank, as Strickler said to Senator Heinrich, "if you back Biden, you will lose our support. Over and out."

Over and out, folks. The donors have spoken.

And that's why it's almost entirely congressional Democrats throwing Biden under the bus - because money talks.

There's no Plan B if Biden drops out because the only plan from these rich donors is to push Biden out. That's all they care about at this point.

These members of congress are moving because they fear the wrath of the donor class more than they fear the wrath of party voters.

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If the goal was to stir up resentment against the ultra Phoenix61 Jul 19 #1
This is the oligarchy Citizens United furthered misanthrope Jul 19 #2
100%. Self Esteem Jul 19 #3
That only explains half the equation. returnee Jul 19 #4
Very true. I don't have an answer for that. Self Esteem Jul 19 #5
Crytpo bros are outwardly pulling high risk strings. LeftInTX Jul 19 #11
What do they lose with Biden... returnee Jul 19 #19
I'm find out a bit more billionaire Mike Novogratz. He's gay. Part of him is Dem. The other part is GOP. LeftInTX Jul 19 #21
Looser rules, basically. NoveltySocks Jul 19 #25
Biden has proposed a tax on crypto, crypto mining costs. 58Sunliner Jul 20 #36
And all those Democrats... returnee Jul 20 #39
The crypto bros already are in the tank for Trump Generic Brad Jul 20 #42
Yes, you inserted a straw man. 58Sunliner Jul 20 #43
Explain. returnee Jul 20 #45
........ 58Sunliner Jul 20 #46
Of course, why didn't I see that before. returnee Jul 20 #49
Look at Biden's record. Rincewind Jul 20 #40
Tell me which potential replacement candidates... returnee Jul 20 #41
There are no potential replacements named.... we can do it Jul 20 #51
Taxes? LisaL Jul 19 #14
Who other than Biden... returnee Jul 19 #20
Trump? LisaL Jul 19 #22
You think... returnee Jul 19 #23
Biden will begin campaign finance reform LiberaBlueDem Jul 19 #15
Because they're having to pay more for labor? Because they might have to pay taxes due? BComplex Jul 19 #26
Maybe to ensure a Trump victory which will be good for the billionaire class ramapo Jul 19 #30
The 25% billionaire tax he mentioned in the debate? CrispyQ Jul 19 #33
If these big donors want Democrats to win Martin Eden Jul 20 #38
One theory is the ultra-wealthy started to jump ship when President Biden proposed thucythucy Jul 20 #53
And if money talks that loud they don't need me or you. Biophilic Jul 19 #6
So here's where I'm a bit confused. chowder66 Jul 19 #7
I'm sure Schiff is concerned about the Senate. Self Esteem Jul 19 #9
That makes sense. Thank you! chowder66 Jul 19 #24
The maximum legal amount is $6600. DFW Jul 19 #8
It's not a stretch to think if he's holding back direct donations that he would PAC donations too. Self Esteem Jul 19 #10
They're all getting PAC money. LeftInTX Jul 19 #13
Is there confirmation to what Candidly Tiff posted? Silent Type Jul 19 #12
It's published in NYT. LisaL Jul 19 #16
It's from a New York Times article. Self Esteem Jul 19 #17
Thanks. At least the article indicates some other big donors are staying the course behind Biden. Silent Type Jul 19 #18
Seems like campaign finance reform could be crucial. dchill Jul 19 #27
Explains a lot. mahina Jul 19 #28
The moneyed class is on the attack blue-wave Jul 19 #29
Seems like they are testing their ihfluence here Bettie Jul 20 #44
Winner! And sadly there are dems controlled by $$$$$ we can do it Jul 20 #52
I don't think they just want Biden out. It seems to me they already have someone in mind who will cater to them. 58Sunliner Jul 19 #31
Here's the question I have when this come up confoosed Jul 19 #32
Maybe they think the donors will come back. Self Esteem Jul 20 #34
I'm not ForgedCrank Jul 20 #35
Congressional politicians are most at risk in their applegrove Jul 20 #37
Or they answer with the truth... Self Esteem Jul 20 #55
Good answer. applegrove Jul 20 #56
I don't believe that. It has come out that money guys are pushing Democrats into doing this... Demsrule86 Jul 20 #48
So you don't find it curious that two days ago a mega donor demanded Sen. Heinrich come out against Biden... Self Esteem Jul 20 #54
The point is not whether they want Trump to lose...it is that they are willing to kowtow to the money guys Demsrule86 Jul 20 #47
The bottom line to all this BS that President Biden has to step aside is "money". IMO republianmushroom Jul 20 #50
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