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EarlG

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153. I'm in no way suggesting that Democrats want to lose
Sun Jul 21, 2024, 12:17 PM
Jul 2024

I'm suggesting that they've been put in an impossible position because of America's completely broken and corrupt campaign finance system.

Due to the amount of money in politics, Democrats cannot compete without big money donors. This means that big money donors get to call the shots, and we normal voters get shut out of the process.

If you're in Democratic leadership, and you get told by a number of big donors that if you don't call for Biden to step down, they'll pull funding from 30 House races, what are you supposed to do?

There may well be elected Democrats who are completely unaffected by this dynamic -- they really believe that we have a better chance of beating Donald Trump by ditching Biden and selecting someone else. Personally I think that's political suicide, but they can have that opinion.

But it seems obvious that there's much more to it than that. Wavering Democrats demanded that Biden jump through a series of hoops -- do a press conference, do an interview, get back out on the campaign trail -- and he's done all that. Biden's bad debate is now ancient history in political terms. Yet not only are the calls for him to step down getting louder, it's more obviously apparent that this is all being driven by big donors, rather than rank and file Democrats.

July 4, 2024:

Major Democratic Donors Devise Plans to Pressure Biden to Step Aside

After several days of quiet griping and hoping that President Biden would abandon his re-election campaign on his own, many wealthy Democratic donors are trying to take matters into their own hands.

Wielding their fortunes as both carrot and stick, donors have undertaken a number of initiatives to pressure Mr. Biden to step down from the top of the ticket and help lay the groundwork for an alternate candidate.

The efforts — some coordinated, some conflicting and others still nascent — expose a remarkable and growing rift between the party’s contributor class and its standard-bearer that could have an impact on down-ballot races, whether or not the donors influence Mr. Biden’s decision.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/us/politics/biden-donors.html

July 17, 2024:

Megadonors Are Plotting How Best to Change Biden’s Mind

“If you don’t publicly call for Biden to step aside, you are not getting a dime from me,” said Tom Strickler, the founder of Hollywood talent agency WME, to New Mexico Senator Martin Heinrich’s team last Thursday. Strickler said he had been planning to financially support seven of the most vulnerable Democratic senators, but would not be doing so because they still backed Biden’s candidacy.

“It’s a message that I’ve encouraged my friends to send as well,” Strickler said. “If you back Biden, you will lose our support. Over and out.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/183957/megadonors-plotting-change-biden-mind

July 20:

New ads push Biden to drop out of the race, funded by mysterious new super PAC

A mysterious new political action committee has spent $36,000 on ads urging President Joe Biden to leave the 2024 race, including in his home state, Delaware, during "Morning Joe," his favorite television program.

Pass the Torch PAC was created July 9, according to records from the Federal Election Commission, 12 days after Biden's disastrous debate against Donald Trump, during which the president appeared to lose his train of thought and failed to counter his opponent's statements.

Aaron Regunberg, a former Democratic state lawmaker from Rhode Island, told USA TODAY he is a co-founder of the group but declined to say who is financing it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143275837

Meanwhile, July 21 (today):

Democratic Party chairs in 7 battleground states reaffirm support for Biden

Democratic Party chairs of seven critical battleground states Sunday reaffirmed their support for President Joe Biden, urging their fellow Democrats to focus on beating former President Donald Trump while many in the party are trying to push Biden to drop out.

In an open letter to Democrats obtained by USA TODAY, the party chairs argued Democrats have a unified message of "freedom, democracy, and an economy that works for working people" that can beat Trump's "MAGA threat of abortion bans, dictatorship, and giveaways to billionaires."

"But right now, many voters aren’t hearing that from our party. We understand the anxiety. But the best antidote to political anxiety is taking action," they wrote in the letter. "When we all lend our voices to contrasting the Democratic vision — from Biden-Harris straight down the ticket — with the MAGA nightmare, we win."

The letter is signed by state Democratic Party chairs Ben Wilker of Wisconsin, Lavora Barnes of Michigan, Sharif Street of Pennsylvania, Anderson Clayton of North Carolina, Nikema Williams of Georgia, Yolanda Bejarano of Arizona and Daniele Monroe-Moreno of Nevada. The seven states are likely to decide the outcome of the 2024 election.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143276269

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Wow! 1000 K&RS Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #1
This is one of the Very Best Posts on DU, ever. Bookmarked forever. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #2
Certainly :) EarlG Jul 2024 #3
here is a list of thestrongly supportive pro crypto Dems in the Senate and the House (per a crypto advocacy group) Celerity Jul 2024 #128
Jesus, that is depressing karin_sj Jul 2024 #132
Kyrsten Sinema will be gone but Ruben G. is running for her spot in the Senate and ChazII Jul 2024 #138
I sent copy of the link to the WH and I hope others will send too Bev54 Jul 2024 #97
It most certainly is. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2024 #137
Thanks for putting this up Earl Bettie Jul 2024 #4
Excellent work, and vitally important to understand what the hell is going on. msfiddlestix Jul 2024 #5
This is valuable. Share widely, everyone ms liberty Jul 2024 #6
good, thorough reminder. bigtree Jul 2024 #7
Critically important! I am so appreciative of your time and effort putting this together, please k&r Ninga Jul 2024 #8
George Carlin was right. It's a club we ain't in it. dobleremolque Jul 2024 #9
Thank you. This makes sense of all the nonsense about Biden's age. Biophilic Jul 2024 #10
Ahhh... For once the fresh isn't a Hell! Hugin Jul 2024 #11
Who knows nowadays what is going on? But, it seems to me -- and I have not researched this -- that these donors were Silent Type Jul 2024 #12
We simply do not know. After reading this OP, I believe that in drivers of the anti Biden movement Ninga Jul 2024 #17
But, they were contributing and pledging right up until June 27th. Biden's contribution totals were great. Silent Type Jul 2024 #21
Not even close Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #29
The first article is about GOPer Billionaires helping trump. They were never going to help Biden. Silent Type Jul 2024 #40
No the articles are about them moving to dump Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #105
Looked again. Do not see the name of even one donor who was considered a big Democratic donor. The article Silent Type Jul 2024 #106
Yes it is Doc Sportello Jul 2024 #107
Give me just one name mentioned in the article of a Democratic donor that is switching to trump. Just one name. Silent Type Jul 2024 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jul 2024 #154
This message was self-deleted by its author wnylib Jul 2024 #151
I would like more exploration of this Kali Jul 2024 #27
I think the plan was to use the debate to bring Biden down all along. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #95
I think the debate was a trigger, for sure EarlG Jul 2024 #42
The SOU was to be an inflection point for the nullifiers. Biden ruined that. Sneederbunk Jul 2024 #51
I think an opportunistic infection is being mistaken for the disease Sympthsical Jul 2024 #54
It was never about how Biden performed at the debate Lifeafter70 Jul 2024 #67
So, if donors are supporting VP Harris or any other top Democrat, do they expect policies to change? Silent Type Jul 2024 #70
The problem is the donors who started this call to step down Lifeafter70 Jul 2024 #76
I have not heard any of these donors say they would not support Harris or some other top Democrat. Of course, I don't Silent Type Jul 2024 #78
So why are they suggesting a mini primary? Lifeafter70 Jul 2024 #88
I think the donors are solid Democrats as they were in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, and mid-term elections. Silent Type Jul 2024 #90
Did you read EarlG's op? Lifeafter70 Jul 2024 #94
Blocking orangecrush Jul 2024 #122
They won't support Harris and likely believe she will lose...they want Trump and his yummy taxcuts. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #98
Oh sure, Democratic donors in 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, up to June 2024, and mid-terms want trump. Silent Type Jul 2024 #102
Most of that cash ends up in the hands of corporate media, including social media platforms. dawg Jul 2024 #13
Thanks for this long and thoughtful post. usonian Jul 2024 #14
KNR and bookmarking. niyad Jul 2024 #15
100% pandr32 Jul 2024 #16
Thanks for posting this! highplainsdem Jul 2024 #18
Europe still seems okay. moondust Jul 2024 #19
In the UK they have laws to prevent this EarlG Jul 2024 #46
Nobody in Europe would accept our bonkers two year long election cycles Prairie Gates Jul 2024 #143
"on the media" a few weeks ago. pansypoo53219 Jul 2024 #20
Rec a million billion times! Wild blueberry Jul 2024 #22
Thx for posting! PortTack Jul 2024 #23
I've been saying this for a while. But I'm just a little woman so few people take me seriously. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #24
I as well Lifeafter70 Jul 2024 #84
Anyone who thinks that they wouldn't torpedo her just as fast if not faster is ill informed. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #85
K and R BonnieJW Jul 2024 #25
Spot on... orwell Jul 2024 #26
"enshittification" BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #28
Actually... littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #43
But as a description for what is going on now BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #47
The concepts are not mutually exclusive. In fact the similarities are remarkable. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #68
"He has taken a know word and expanded its definition." BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #72
Snort! OMGosh!! I needed a laugh! littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #79
Indeed, I can't claim to have coined this word :) EarlG Jul 2024 #48
I know...it wasn't meaning that was mentioned. The word itself was though. littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #63
But using it for this situation BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #73
Absolutely! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #83
Was about to cite Doctorow, but your link is better. And... 4dog Jul 2024 #49
Thanks! ❤️ littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #82
It's a perfectly cromulent word. Qutzupalotl Jul 2024 #59
It fits perfectly! BumRushDaShow Jul 2024 #74
Appreciate the compilation. I have followed this, may have even posted some of those. BootinUp Jul 2024 #30
Very well done Mr. Earl G. Botany Jul 2024 #31
Wasn't that long ago they said "It takes $1B to run a successful campaign" WarGamer Jul 2024 #32
Not only "extortion," but massive lobbying "investment" for whatever weakens a government they can then CAPTURE. ancianita Jul 2024 #33
Many tech bros claim to be Libertarian, too. Possibly the majority. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #44
Right. I'm aware. The through line of their ideologies is privatization and govt capture by tech bro power. ancianita Jul 2024 #64
Tech bros...giving tech and bros a bad name since... littlemissmartypants Jul 2024 #80
Outstanding post - thank you! Pinback Jul 2024 #34
Are you saying that, except for the guy at the top and... LudwigPastorius Jul 2024 #35
You may be able to answer your own question if you go back and re-read the entire rationale. Ninga Jul 2024 #39
I seriously doubt that any elected Democrat WANTS to be in this position EarlG Jul 2024 #57
I agree- and I'll be watching to see if some of the more shocking Dem "Roll in the hay with the big donors" come back NBachers Jul 2024 #75
Amazing thread. TYVM! bluestarone Jul 2024 #36
Crypto's main utility seems to be facilitating crime (nt) 4dog Jul 2024 #53
THIS is all we should be talking about. What to do about it, and sharing it far and wide. Nt Ninga Jul 2024 #37
Masterful analysis 👏🏼 benfranklin1776 Jul 2024 #38
A lot of dots to connect. joanbarnes Jul 2024 #41
This needs to be shared far and wide. liberalmuse Jul 2024 #45
Excellent post. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #50
Exactly, precisley on target. NewHendoLib Jul 2024 #52
It's imperative we go to public funded elections KS Toronado Jul 2024 #55
As the saying goes, don't hate the player, hate the game. SouthBayDem Jul 2024 #56
K&R ck4829 Jul 2024 #58
Absolutely, incredibly, Awesome EarlG DENVERPOPS Jul 2024 #60
We're in a position where arrogant idiots and tech bros control our Democracy. It's fucked. Oneironaut Jul 2024 #61
Follow the Money Grolph_ Jul 2024 #62
The Supremes said it was okay because they want their piece of the pie Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #127
100% ibegurpard Jul 2024 #65
Republicans have been feeding oligarchs, and obstructing anything that would regulate them, for decades. Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2024 #66
Yeah. I am trying to control my disgust with this situation ismnotwasm Jul 2024 #69
K & R Native Jul 2024 #71
Pin this post. Duncan Grant Jul 2024 #77
I agree ibegurpard Jul 2024 #81
Earl, maybe you should consider writing this as an op-ed drray23 Jul 2024 #86
Many, many thanks. chia Jul 2024 #87
Kick asm128 Jul 2024 #89
I hope you do not mind, I sent a link to this to the WH Bev54 Jul 2024 #91
Still kicking! Ninga Jul 2024 #92
Thanks. This is important information. Money is at the root of the Biden meltdown by the media, and some politicians Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #93
WOW! mamacita75 Jul 2024 #96
Very well said! Thank you! misanthrope Jul 2024 #99
Thank you for putting it all here! LeftInTX Jul 2024 #100
ATTN: You are just one post away from 22222 GreenWave Jul 2024 #101
Corruption is just a matter of your price. aocommunalpunch Jul 2024 #103
With all due respect... OldBaldy1701E Jul 2024 #104
Yep. This is why I call billionaires parasites and Wall Street people greed lizards. And this whole campaign thing is PatrickforB Jul 2024 #109
This. The true threat to Democracy is the broligarchs. n/t TygrBright Jul 2024 #110
Buying the election bromeando Jul 2024 #111
This should be on the front page of the NYTs, .. Botany Jul 2024 #112
Can you clairfy? Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #113
All I know about Biden's health is that EarlG Jul 2024 #115
Thank you for your response. Yorkie Mom Jul 2024 #116
Great post DemonGoddess Jul 2024 #114
Bob Cesca raised some of these same points the other day on his podcast. yellowdogintexas Jul 2024 #117
This explains so much. summer_in_TX Jul 2024 #118
It's got to be frustrating for you orangecrush Jul 2024 #119
No doubt criptobros are at play. So is a superficial applegrove Jul 2024 #120
It's a win/win for the Oligarchs. S/V Loner Jul 2024 #121
Time to undo the robber barons Blue Full Moon Jul 2024 #123
Bookmarking for Mr Peacetrain.. so well laid out Peacetrain Jul 2024 #124
Great work SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #125
Crypto currency is just another form of money laundering Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2024 #126
So this is what Mark Cuban was referring to in his X post about Thiel's and Musk's plan to give millions to Trump. Pepsidog Jul 2024 #129
Seth Moulton (D-MA) was on New Yorker Radio yesterday nuxvomica Jul 2024 #130
+1... myohmy2 Jul 2024 #131
Thank you so much! Linda ladeewolf Jul 2024 #133
K&R spanone Jul 2024 #134
krb Baltimike Jul 2024 #135
K & R Bookmarking FakeNoose Jul 2024 #136
Data doesn't die... ultralite001 Jul 2024 #139
This is a World Championship post, EarlG! dchill Jul 2024 #140
Thank you so much for this wonderful post! Erda Jul 2024 #141
Well done, you! I wish this could be published obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #142
Cryptopolitics. K&R Maeve Jul 2024 #144
Most of the dynamics you bring up, were already baked in. DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #145
I'm in no way suggesting that Democrats want to lose EarlG Jul 2024 #153
I did not misunderstand you to be saying Dems want Biden to lose. I just pointed out that some Donors also do not. DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #160
PLEASE pin this OP to the top of the General Discussion page. Talitha Jul 2024 #146
Absolutely JohnSJ Jul 2024 #147
So, I guess we're not the envy of the world? Marcus IM Jul 2024 #148
Amazingly stated, but what happened in the 2018 mid-terms? Justice matters. Jul 2024 #149
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #150
kick! G_j Jul 2024 #152
Swift kick Warpy Jul 2024 #155
Fuck the crypto bros! Initech Jul 2024 #156
Stellar OP! Spazito Jul 2024 #157
K & R BadgerMom Jul 2024 #158
and now what Kali Jul 2024 #159
Well :) EarlG Jul 2024 #162
yeah Kali Jul 2024 #163
Closes the loops......and with receipts no less. jaxexpat Jul 2024 #161
Truth ... Godot51 Jul 2024 #164
Kick this truth! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2024 #165
KnR Hekate Jul 2024 #166
Bookmarking liberalla Jul 2024 #167
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