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Ellen Forradalom

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38. As a California Democratic voter I deserve an explanation

Sun Jul 21, 2024, 09:24 PM

Jul 21

How did it come to this? Why did we hear rumors and calls to step down and not a solid explanation of the situation? Why was this not planned for? Joe was old four years ago. The base deserves an explanation.

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I am seeing a lot of resentment today directed at [View all] totodeinhere Jul 21 OP

Agreed. SunSeeker Jul 21 #1

I hope each one gets primaries in the next election cycle edisdead Jul 21 #2

How old is Nancy? Wicked Blue Jul 21 #6

Older than Rebl2 Jul 21 #10

Correct. She is 84. nt dflprincess Jul 21 #26

She's 84 years old. n/t whathehell Jul 21 #28

84 sheshe2 Jul 21 #27

Post removed Post removed Jul 21 #15

He is going - straight to the Senate. Xavier Breath Jul 21 #45

I'm.suspending efforts JustAnotherGen Jul 21 #3

The party is lining up behind VP Harris. TomSlick Jul 21 #24

Yes, they are Tom, at least for tonight. sheshe2 Jul 21 #42

Literally JustAnotherGen Jul 21 #51

Let the deciders BigMin28 Jul 21 #79

no shit. we are just labor. ZonkerHarris Jul 21 #98

Did the big money come in last night? Captain Zero Jul 22 #118

Right there with you Arazi Jul 21 #84

We definitely need new scripts JustAnotherGen Jul 22 #115

Yeah, definitely feeling even more uncomfortable this morning Arazi Jul 22 #117

I suspect JustAnotherGen Jul 22 #130

These recent shenanigans are hard to describe as "great!11!" Arazi Jul 22 #137

Get over urself jpug Jul 21 #109

There are typos JustAnotherGen Jul 22 #116

That came across as a bit rude PatSeg Jul 22 #128

Thank you PatSeg JustAnotherGen Jul 22 #132

You're welcome PatSeg Jul 22 #133

Seconded on the thanks Arazi Jul 22 #139

I know what you mean about being uneasy PatSeg Jul 22 #142

Some of us have already been putting in the work Arazi Jul 21 #74

Same here DeepWinter Jul 22 #119

Yes. What do our puny dollars mean compared to the millions of dollars Wicked Blue Jul 22 #147

United we stand, divided we fall. nt Dulcinea Jul 22 #121

Yep - Can you reach out to the campaign JustAnotherGen Jul 22 #138

At this point the only thing that matters is defeating Trump. Ocelot II Jul 21 #4

Question. Desert grandma Jul 21 #43

That's a good question, and without knowing what was being said or done Ocelot II Jul 21 #47

Well said MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #52

Agreed. I don't think it's about Biden. It's his policies. LisaM Jul 21 #60

Exactly right...I am furious. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #94

THIS! ☝️ Right NOW it's FASCISM VS (some form of*) DEMOCRACY!!! electric_blue68 Jul 21 #61

Will we beat Trump though...if we have an open convention, I don't think we will...more angry voters. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #91

It looks like Harris has close to a lock on the nomination, Ocelot II Jul 21 #93

She needs to be the nominee before the convention...to many Democrats have favorites and think we are having some Demsrule86 Jul 21 #95

Move on and take notes ibegurpard Jul 21 #5

This. ms liberty Jul 21 #85

Agreed! We have 106 days until election day, even less with early voting ecstatic Jul 21 #7

This is all over twitter redqueen Jul 21 #13

I love that!! nt ecstatic Jul 21 #22

As an Artist, and Former Graphic Designer... THIS is Great!!!!! TY! electric_blue68 Jul 21 #64

I'm with Kam intelpug Jul 21 #96

You might be unconsciously influenced by what happened to Drumphf. This graphic is based on the Original Obama Hope electric_blue68 Jul 21 #101

Love the logo. HATE the image. .it looks blood-splattered, with fingers niyad Jul 21 #70

How about this one? Attilatheblond Jul 21 #100

My daughter sent this one to me last night. Kamala Can! hedda_foil Jul 22 #151

I'd like to say give them a day redqueen Jul 21 #8

Pretty Decent of You displacedvermoter Jul 21 #31

I'm 100% with you. macwriter Jul 21 #75

I agree Mz Pip Jul 21 #9

The conversations about Biden should have been mzmolly Jul 21 #11

I think this is where FL_Jerry Jul 21 #20

It was private, we never got much information at the time. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #35

The statements from politicians saying the President should withdraw from the race Desert grandma Jul 21 #53

Well said GoreWon2000 Jul 21 #65

Guessing they went increasingly public Agent Orange Tabby Jul 21 #106

We will respect them later on. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #112

No. Desert grandma Jul 22 #143

Public statements mzmolly Jul 21 #55

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #54

They have more information than we do and they know what they're doing.... Chakaconcarne Jul 22 #135

If you think there is a lot of resentment today, it is nothing to what you RockRaven Jul 21 #12

This is an extremely good point. redqueen Jul 21 #16

I understand your feelings but it is too late for that. totodeinhere Jul 21 #25

The Dem leadership knows they have taken a big gamble. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #41

To keep the contributions flowing in Wicked Blue Jul 21 #58

It is about winning the race. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #114

Please don't put words in my mouth Wicked Blue Jul 22 #123

They and they alone will own the result. Desert grandma Jul 21 #59

Change the rules so they can never do this again! GoreWon2000 Jul 21 #69

November? Pshaw. Wait until you see the battleground state polls next week Prairie Gates Jul 21 #73

My feelings exactly n/t AverageJoe Jul 21 #87

Agreed, First things first dealing with Cheeto FL_Jerry Jul 21 #14

They'll never look like heroes to all of us redqueen Jul 21 #17

Good point. I actually feel that way FL_Jerry Jul 21 #23

Even if their plan defeats Trump? Irish_Dem Jul 21 #44

We will never know what the alternate moonscape Jul 21 #57

People are all over the map. And that is OK. Irish_Dem Jul 22 #113

I suspect part of their motovation was to save their tax breaks Wicked Blue Jul 22 #140

Yeah, clearly it's not good so many are trashing good solid Democrats like Schiff for what has happened. honest.abe Jul 21 #18

Just like castor oil displacedvermoter Jul 21 #33

More like a COVID shot. honest.abe Jul 21 #48

How solid is Schiff after sabotaging Joe? dickthegrouch Jul 21 #81

He will win California... Demsrule86 Jul 21 #92

You mean Schiff Linda ladeewolf Jul 21 #102

They'll get on the bandwagon. People like Schiff will grow wise usonian Jul 21 #19

Not if all they care about is campaign contributions Wicked Blue Jul 22 #148

Some, in CA, with the exception of critical house races usonian Jul 22 #150

It would be a landslide, if, of course, you believe those polls, if... lees1975 Jul 21 #21

Well said! Blue_Roses Jul 21 #29

People need their scapegoats Sympthsical Jul 21 #30

One guys scapegoat is another guy's responsible party. LakeArenal Jul 21 #46

Gillibrand was more than the Franken thing. Nixie Jul 22 #124

Oh, I think that played a role, too Sympthsical Jul 22 #125

I don't think your not caring has anything to with your age Nixie Jul 22 #127

How long orangecrush Jul 21 #32

Wait! I'm working on some tire tracks on my back. usonian Jul 21 #36

Schiff is part of a leadership team. He took one for the team. Irish_Dem Jul 21 #34

Precisely.... many here seem to have completely forgotten Schiffs role in the TSF trials and his service so far... Chakaconcarne Jul 22 #134

I deeply resent this accusation Wicked Blue Jul 22 #141

Nah... Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong and what they did to President Biden was WRONG! MichDem10 Jul 21 #37

At this point, Joe has made his decision. LudwigPastorius Jul 21 #67

And accusing us of being trolls is not helpful either Wicked Blue Jul 22 #149

You are just engaging in speculation. totodeinhere Jul 21 #71

As a California Democratic voter I deserve an explanation Ellen Forradalom Jul 21 #38

If those mentioned can't take the heat, they shouldn't have started the fire. LakeArenal Jul 21 #39

I can understand the resentment. WestMichRad Jul 21 #40

Precisely ibegurpard Jul 21 #63

I suspect the initial discussions were private. But it quickly escalated. I'm looking forward, and Silent Type Jul 21 #83

I really rather not see some of these clowns who forced him out FloridaBlues Jul 21 #49

Actually, I think resentment is a decent response -- shows engagement. SYFROYH Jul 21 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie Gates Jul 21 #76

I had to laugh in recognition at the "I can't tell if I"m despondent or apathetic right now." Bongo Prophet Jul 22 #111

Nobody made the President step aside. unterrified democrat Jul 21 #56

I agree. We have to put it all aside and support KH BigDemVoter Jul 21 #62

When you work in Wash DC you understand "the meeting before the meeting" - TBF Jul 21 #66

I started out as a Ward Committeeman in Philadelphia..... brooklynite Jul 21 #68

Except that if we lose this one, there WON'T BE another one. niyad Jul 21 #103

Citizens United Did This BurnDoubt Jul 21 #72

I can fully support Kamala Harris, and I will wryter2000 Jul 21 #77

Resentment peachpit24 Jul 21 #78

You can count on my my vote but not my enthusiasm CentralMass Jul 21 #80

I felt the same way - if Joe stayed in. Now I'm enthused! johnnyplankton Jul 21 #110

Every single one who pushed Biden out liberalmuse Jul 21 #82

I am mad as hell at Pelosi, et. al AverageJoe Jul 21 #86

I'll vote for the nominee...but I extremely resentful. And if we lose I will be even more resentful Demsrule86 Jul 21 #88

Same here PatSeg Jul 22 #131

Money is ruining everything in politics alarimer Jul 21 #89

Schiff may be right, the election will decide that. Haru Jul 21 #90

I forgive them.... ramapo Jul 21 #97

Joe did the right thing and so did the people that had the courage to tell him the truth johnnyplankton Jul 21 #99

Post removed Post removed Jul 21 #105

All I know is that I am going to work hard to prove myself wrong. Gore1FL Jul 21 #104

Well, I certainly freaked out the other day. This has been a very tense time because PatrickforB Jul 21 #107

This is the fastest I have moved through a grief cycle, still have residual sad feelings. Go get em VP Harris we have Hikerchick57 Jul 21 #108

I will put it aside for now but I will never forget it helpisontheway Jul 22 #120

You know what? mucholderthandirt Jul 22 #122

Oh, I am so with you. CBHagman Jul 22 #126

RESENTMENT!!!!!! LOL! Hope22 Jul 22 #129

Totally agree. lark Jul 22 #136

Of course there's resentment DemonGoddess Jul 22 #144

I have some resentment Progressive dog Jul 22 #145

Not quite VBNMW Jul 22 #146